Cars you thought you GREAT but ended up being CRAP!

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Hi ya guys! My name is Jonn 79 and i am a GT4 addict.

*Everyone replies "Hi Jonn", followed by a few claps for confirmation of addiction*

In today's meeting will be sharing on which cars you couldn't wait to purchase/win, modify and drive, but only to have the car you waited oh so long for turn out to be an utter bust.

I shall start the ball rolling.

Tommy Kaira ZZII :scared:

It seems no matter what parts i apply to the car, it still suffers from catastrophic under steer, much like the next car i thought was horrible:

FTO LM :crazy:

For my last entry into the bust category is (drum roll please):

Lotus Esprit V8 turbo :ouch:

For reasons i can't explain this car hates to turn. It must be my lack of skill.

I apologize in advance if this is a double thread and was started before. If so please lock and throw away the key. :dunce:
 
Vertigo Race Car - this car just doesent like to do anything, im sure its clockwork!!! :yuck:

Cizenta v16t ( or whatever its called ) - Absolute crap, nuff said.:grumpy:


All the rest im ok with, and as for the FTO LM being rubbish - I quite like it, it happens to be the car im learning to use my new steering wheel & pedals with. :):sly::indiff:
 
The DS2 is the best way of playing the game in my opinion, much, much harder with wheel and pedals, Hardest thing to get used to is Turning while braking, I always completely stop lol, no more dabbing the brakes to get round slight corners, and getting back on the throttle annoys me as well, keep pressing brake + accelerate pedals at the same time grrr
 
The cadillac cien, i love the speed in the straights but with a nice car like this you would expect good cornering too. I wouldent really call it crap though, since its saved me acouple of times at the beggining of the game.
 
I'm not sure I think I have seen this thread before. Try searching, but use the "advanced" button to narrow your search field.

Jonn 79
Tommy Kaira ZZII :scared:

It seems no matter what parts i apply to the car, it still suffers from catastrophic under steer, much like the next car i thought was horrible:
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"HI JOHN!!!"

Hmmm. This is actually hard for me to answer since I'm such a car-lover. I always can find something positive to say about some auto, no matter how crappy its performance.

That being said...there are plenty of cars I thought would be great, and they were great! And there are plenty of cars that I thought would be totally lacking or mediocre or (dare I say) sucky, and they were! But a car that I thought would be great but sucked.

I really am stumped guys. I'll have to come back to this one.

I mean, in GT2, the big answer would have been without a doubt the "Renault Clio 16v". An untuneable mess it was. Power rated at 170 in the dealership, but it's really 108 in the garage. No turbo or NA upgrades. At all. My opinion is this is a PD goof, in that PD forgot to add these upgrades. So in GT4, I expected the reverse about the 16v: that it would be a suckmobile, but actually it's got more potential in GT4 since power-ups are available.
 
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DeeEmmSee
The DS2 is the best way of playing the game ...
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:) For me, both the DS2 and my wheel have a love/hate relationship with me. Some cars work better with one, some cars with the other.

DeeEmmSee
...Hardest thing to get used to is Turning while braking... no more dabbing the brakes to get round slight corners...
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Much harder with the wheel in my opinion. Although, as you may well know, tuning the suspension, TCS, LSD (if you have one installed) may go along way to helping out with the turning ability of even these rides. Just ask, Parnelli Bone.

DeeEmmSee
... keep pressing brake + accelerate pedals at the same time
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For me, this works! I prefer to drive with two feet (left on brake, right on gas) more efficient. I haven't quite discerned whether or not it wreaks havoc on my brakes, treads overall, but if it's good enough for WRC drivers, it's good enough for this kid.
 
Off topic: I actually powered up the old dreamcast and slapped Bleemcast in there to play some GT2. Guess i still have a VMU with my car hahaha! I had a good 30 minutes of fun with that for a while.

Anyways back to on topic. Will try out those settings posted for the ZZII. Keen to see whether i have overlooked some aspect of my tuning.

Off topic again but, does anyone think that the Mclaren GTR sound, oh i don't know, less than spectacular? I was kinda hoping it would have a "rip yer nuts off" kinda sound... :(
 
Anything with the word Zonda in it. They can't turn worth a flip.


(I'm not sure what cobrawannabe was expecting with the Volvo Wagen)
 
senamic
I'm not sure I think I have seen this thread before. Try searching, but use the "advanced" button to narrow your search field.



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I have to say that this particular tune that you proposed was great, except on the tight twisty ones tho :S. I made some minor tweaks like focusing the power toward rear bias and increasing the front suspension to 16.5kg. It does corner better but again you have to extremely precise with your turn in and exit acceleration. Thanks for the tip :)
 
QSpec
Anything with the word Zonda in it. They can't turn worth a flip.
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I beg to differ strongly, good sir :D. I looked at dialing in one of the Zonda's just recently for a fellow member and found it a very easy car to tune and drive.

Alo, Jonn 79, the Esprit is a mess as it comes to you via the auspices of PD. However, with a bit of work (okay a lot of work :D) all the models can be turned into quite exciting drives that feel like real MR's.

I guess that's why there's not just one car :lol: i.e. everyone and his dog will think differently about what is great and what is not.
 
Crap cars, eh? I can't really think of any, since with a little tuning and a few choice parts, I can get just about any car to do just about anything I want. but if I had to choose, It'd be the HPA Golf.
 
Jonn 79
I have to say that this particular tune that you proposed was great, except on the tight twisty ones tho :S. I made some minor tweaks like focusing the power toward rear bias and increasing the front suspension to 16.5kg. It does corner better but again you have to extremely precise with your turn in and exit acceleration. Thanks for the tip :)
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Your welcome. It was tuned at some of the faster circuits (Fuji, Sarthe, etc.) so it is for wider corners. Try R2s and you get more power-on oversteer, or R4s for more grip. Glad that it helped you though! Feel free to review it at the garage's thread!

Senamic
 
The Peugeot 905(?)

Now I should qualify that, sure its one of the quickest car in the game, but its frustrating to drive because it takes half a second to change gear. Its got great pace but for some reason, the shift times are awful, which makes it a bit of a pig to drive.
 
sukerkin
I beg to differ strongly, good sir :D. I looked at dialing in one of the Zonda's just recently for a fellow member and found it a very easy car to tune and drive.

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Like the other guy said, you can take just about any car and tune it to work good.

We're talking about taking the car as it is.
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QSpec
We're talking about taking the car as it is.
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That wasn't what the OP suggested, at least not the reading of it that I took.

As to taking any car and making it great with enough tuning, ah if only that were true ... still it's trying that makes the game endlessly interesting.
 
The king of this list is the Peugeot 905. Im sure PD made it a bad car on purpose. I mean, it won Le Mans, and on your garage it shows better stats than the 787B. But why the 787B is so much better than the 905? Easy, the transmision. The 905 takes approximately 32 years and 8 months to change gear, period in which it loses some valuable km/h's.

Also i was disappointed by the Pagani Zonda, but i mean, veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery disappointed. Oh, and the Caterham Fireblade, great car but the fact it can be raced is crap.

I guess there are a bunch of cars like this, looks like PD is a bit biased...
 
The 2J has 2 fans powered by a snowblower engine or something that draw air upwards and out the back to create a vacuum underneath the car, which keeps it glued to the road more or less. It only ran for less than one season. I think there wasn't any rules in the Can Am that said a carmaker couldn't enter a car with artificial downforce at the time, but it was banned because it blew everyone else off the road apparently.
 
Parnelli Bone
The 2J has 2 fans powered by a snowblower engine or something that draw air upwards and out the back to create a vacuum underneath the car, which keeps it glued to the road more or less. It only ran for less than one season. I think there wasn't any rules in the Can Am that said a carmaker couldn't enter a car with artificial downforce at the time, but it was banned because it blew everyone else off the road apparently.
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Is that a true story? :confused:
 
Back to topic......

There have been quite a few disappointments in GT4, but there's been some surprises too. ;) On the disappointment side, this is what I thought was disappointing for the sprints or racing:

FF
Alfa Romeo 156 - The quickest FF car in GT3 got taken to the vets by Kaz and neutered, turning an 11.3 sec 460hp beast with power in all the rev range into a laggy, no torque, 12.1sec wheel spinning piece of crap!! The handling was butchered really hard compared to the GT3 version aswell. You want a good Alfa, work a 147GTA.

FR
Toyota Supra - While I still personally love the car (2JZ power ;)), the excessive wheelspin when huge turbos are fitted make this car practically undrivable except for the LTW race, where you can get a guaranteed 200pts. and can even win the race using S2's.

MR/RR
Cizeta V16T - When I saw this car in GT4, my mouth salivated. I remembered it from my childhood days and wanted to tear into it like a kid at Xmas. :mischievous: But it was exactly like Xmas in a sense. You asked Santa for that brand new PS3, and you see the PS3 box after you rip open the wrapping, and you open the PS3 box.....to find a book in there. :irked: HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!! That's what this car ended up being to me, exactly like that. Bad handling, crappy gearbox, poor performance. I wanted more than this garbage.

AWD
Mitsubishi Evo 8 MR - Take it to the 1/4. Take a Spec-C to the 1/4. Watch Spec-C demolish Evo time. Enough said. ;)
 

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