Cars you wish don't make it into GT5

[eastley]

Maybe you should practice with those low powered cars, then you could change your sig.... 💡

LOL nice call, i'm 99.8% through the game so I should change it anyhow. I can't get Mission 34, 7 seconds is the clsoest I got!!! Might change my sig anyhow.

 

[Fade to Black]

Max_DC; This car participates every year in the famous 24 h race of Nürburgring and it is - also for Germans- the most popular car in this race ( votings )... And who cares about NOS ? No real race car has NOS, that is just something for 1/4 mile races...

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I think you kind of missed my point there... 550,000 for a car that can't handle NOS when say a Citroen 2CV can, is a bit of a joke isn't it?

Besides, I wasn't racing it (I have other - better - cars for that) I was trying to find out it's top speed, as I enjoy tuning cars for that purpose... and if it's such a good car, why is it in with a bunch of other cars of similiar type, that all cost significantly more? Sets alarm bells ringing...

I respect your feedback, however... and if you'll read the rest of my posting you'll see I actually don't think any cars in the game should be removed... but as this is a "which cars should be removed" post, I felt I should follow the spirit of the thread and post a car I felt was flawed in some way. I could just as easily have said the Ford GT 05 (lousy brakes) for example. My solutions simple... if I don't like a car, I don't drive it

As for who cares about NOS? Well PD for one... else it wouldn't be in there... and check out the Top Speed/wheelie board for a whole lot more NOS fans (myself amongst them )

BTW I found NOS to be great fun in low power car races... take the spitfire race... I raced my Spitfire against another with my only upgrade being NOS. The NOS lasted the entre race, and gave me just that edge in acceleration I was looking for, without making the race a piece of cake

Quarter mile racing only? That's a shame... you're missing out on a lot of fun taking a Zonda C12S on La Sarthe II at 300mph is a riot!

 

[Razgriz]

I can understand all the frustration of the seemingly infinite # of skylines, Evo, WRX, RX-7 etc. and I agree that other cars (historically important or just for greater variety) could've been included, but please look at this issue with a bit more logic.

Living in Japan currently, I can tell you that I really do see many of these slightly different versions of the same car driving around. With GT's first market being Japan (regardless of how big the US market is), is it that hard to comprehend the fact that Japanese drivers might want their particular version included? Yes, KY is a GTR nut, and the game is mis-labeled as a "history of" for PR purposes, but I can tell you that of all the GT fans I've talked to here (and I've met quite a few) don't mind having less American/European cars if a special-colored limited edition skyline can be had in the game.

It all comes down to audience. Of course Americans/Europeans would complain about having too many skylines, etc (though I'm sure just as many are glad they have a chance to drive the versions of those cars that didn't make it to their country). In the same way, if more muscle cars or maybe all the trim levels of the Dodge Neon were in the game, the same complaints might be heard from the Japanese market. The only real way to fix this is to either have region-specific GT's or try to appease everyone by including more cars (possible with GT5?).

All that being said, the cars I personally could've lived without are the ones you can't use in actual races (Nike, old carriages).

 

[a6m5]

I can understand all the frustration of the seemingly infinite # of skylines, Evo, WRX, RX-7 etc. and I agree that other cars (historically important or just for greater variety) could've been included, but please look at this issue with a bit more logic.

Living in Japan currently, I can tell you that I really do see many of these slightly different versions of the same car driving around. With GT's first market being Japan (regardless of how big the US market is), is it that hard to comprehend the fact that Japanese drivers might want their particular version included? Yes, KY is a GTR nut, and the game is mis-labeled as a "history of" for PR purposes, but I can tell you that of all the GT fans I've talked to here (and I've met quite a few) don't mind having less American/European cars if a special-colored limited edition skyline can be had in the game.

It all comes down to audience. Of course Americans/Europeans would complain about having too many skylines, etc (though I'm sure just as many are glad they have a chance to drive the versions of those cars that didn't make it to their country). In the same way, if more muscle cars or maybe all the trim levels of the Dodge Neon were in the game, the same complaints might be heard from the Japanese market. The only real way to fix this is to either have region-specific GT's or try to appease everyone by including more cars (possible with GT5?).
All that being said, the cars I personally could've lived without are the ones you can't use in actual races (Nike, old carriages).

I think the critics should realize that, those different versions of Skylines, they are freebies. These guys got it:

The thing is, 56 skylines doesn't mean they could have done 1 skyline and 55 other cars.

People should realize that for example the 10th Skyline GTR R34 doesn't mean that you have to leave out another car ! The code of these ten cars are basically the same and that's why it simply doesn't matter how many Skylines are in the game !

Now to the orange high-lighted part in the quote. If they regionalize the game, just because some people can't stand seeing the "bonus" Skylines in their game, that would just mean that Japanese GT5 will get to have more cars in it. I'm guessing it will equal rougly the number of the extra Skylines in the Japanese game.

 

[exhorst]

get rid of the daihatsu midgets, they are an embarassment to the automotive world.

there should be more Aussie cars and more American cars too, i cant believe there was not one event for FORD in the game, one of the first car makers ever.
what about some more mustangs, more corvettes, and more camaros.
and as for aussie cars, well for the 4th time they have been virtually ignored, lets see some old falcons, commodores, and toranas, and what about the HSV GTS Coupe, GTO Coupe, Clubsport R8, they can kill any Japanese road car,

the sound of the V8 supercar is nothing like it should be, if you have ever heard a v8 supercar in real life you will be happy that you are alive, ******* amazing sound
it is just way too highpitched in GT4 tho, on the replay it sounds like a bumblebee going past, it should be A LOT more meaty and dense

 

[WorksAccess]

no japanese cars

seriously tho, we dont need 50 Skylines in every colour possible.

Bring back the POD's from Geneva - Tokyo!

 

[G25RJ]

My only hope is that all GT4 cars make to GT5 and more should be added to fill the gaps that were present in GT4.

 

[T5-R]

Delete or replace the Rally and Race cars that have been in GT since GT2, I'm so bored of seeing them that I never drive them. Well except for the Lancia Delta rally car and maybe escort. I'm so sick of seeing that damn Ford Focus Rally car in that boring '99? paintscheme.

And whats that about the 240 estate!?!! Grrrr! its the first time Volvos been in GT Although it seems abit odd they didn't pick the Turbo version and that I'd imagine the weight is wrong. I don't think a 240 estate weighs nearly 1900KG, the saloon weighs about 1450KG I believe. I doubt abit of extra bodywork is 400KG Oh and why the S60 T5 when theres the S60R? Doesn't make much sense.

If a different 20 cars got in, I'd say delete the Skylines. As much as I like skylines (except the R34 because it looks too plastic in my opinion) I'm tired of seeing them in GT and being so hyped up. Oh and 50+ variants But that isn't my reasoning, I'm just bored of seeing em...

Otherwise I'd say keep all the other cars, but stop messing about with concepts and other stupid things. Its not like there isn't enough production cars in the world. *Cough* More Volvos! *Cough*

 

[lazydog]

After 4 installments of Gran Turismo, and hearing so many complaints about GT3 not having enough cars, and then GT4 having all the wrong cars...it's amazing that people actually want cars removed.

Very true.

For me, they could put any car they want in the game. If I don't like it, or if its not suited for racing, or anything else, I simply wouldn't use it. It does not hurt, however to have it in the game.

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to give it a try though. For example at first I didn't like the Isuzus. Then I tried the '70s Bellet in the 1000Mile! races (slightly tuned), and that was very exciting and funny racing

More cars = better 👍

 

[civicgsir]

I imagine that all the GT4 cars may make it to GT5 considering the fact that a Blu-Ray disc can hold 50 gigs of data & GT4 is only on a dual layer 9 gig disc. we are talking up to 5 times as much room to put whatever ol' KY wants. that's one of the good things about the PS3, is the fact that it's not limited to DVD technology.

I for one enjoy some of the older cars & believe that the reason for some of the backlash is because of limitations of either disc size or console performance. certain choices had to be made on which cars make it & which ones do not. i am sure they would have loved to include many more cars, but disc size prevented some of that. just the same, i am sure they would love for you to race the Nike car vs. anything else, but the PS2 just isn't up to the task for that.

so with the PS3's capabilities, all of this will be possible plus much, much more i'm sure. it is pretty safe to go ahead and count on all the GT4 cars, plus many more in addition to them. it wouldn't suprise me to see 1000 cars in GT5. although, you got to leave something for GT6.

 

[L28eT]

Why would you want particular cars NOT to be in Gran Turismo 5??

Whatever cars possible, I hope, will be included! Remember, you don't HAVE to buy these "particular" cars if they DO make it in...
I just do hope they include the old cars still, like the Datsun 240Z's and the Old Skylines...You know??

What does Yumauchi have to lose??
Well, please don't take this post as offensive, I'm just stating my opinion!!

Thanks,

L28eT

 

[FWA2500]

ill tell you what i do want....F1 licencing, a must...a realistic damage model...a flagging system in the professional races (eg: green, red, yellow, black, blue, etc...) i think the yellow would be important if the dammage model left the debris on the track and would cause damage to your car if you hit it (tyre puncture, etc)....

 

[jamaican]

i'm hoping all those d*mn skylines dont make it, they juss take up all the space

 

[Automotive]

The cars that I don't want to see

Humm, Let's see

None. Here's why. If you play GT4 and you want cars removed from GT5, then your not a real car fanantic. Gt is for people who love cars and for people who love to race them. For the car that you can't race, I still think it's good to have in the game. It' give it more depth to the game. What if you could race a Ford Model T in GT4 and ect.. What would people complain about then. For the cars that can't be raced, I think it start with the "Wheels" . To my knowledege, most of the cars that you can't drive in GT4 are a replica of the real thing. Try replacing the wheels on a Model T today. No one would have wheels to sell you for that car. That's why you can't race it. It's there for looks and bragging rights. It;s pretty tough to win some of thoes cars. Then there's the history, I bet most people didn't even know that Mercedes made a Motor Carrage in thoes days, so it's just to show history. I love it.

 

[tidusf430]

Hey i wish those hondas don't make it to gt5 no offense to the people that like hondas 👎

 

[tidusf430]

The cars that I don't want to see

Humm, Let's see

None. Here's why. If you play GT4 and you want cars removed from GT5, then your not a real car fanantic. Gt is for people who love cars and for people who love to race them. For the car that you can't race, I still think it's good to have in the game. It' give it more depth to the game. What if you could race a Ford Model T in GT4 and ect.. What would people complain about then. For the cars that can't be raced, I think it start with the "Wheels" . To my knowledege, most of the cars that you can't drive in GT4 are a replica of the real thing. Try replacing the wheels on a Model T today. No one would have wheels to sell you for that car. That's why you can't race it. It's there for looks and bragging rights. It;s pretty tough to win some of thoes cars. Then there's the history, I bet most people didn't even know that Mercedes made a Motor Carrage in thoes days, so it's just to show history. I love it.

You know thats not all true. Thats an opinion see a real car fanantic are the ones that love certain types of cars. What i'm saying is you say certain things that out of place

 

[tidusf430]

i'm hoping all those d*mn skylines dont make it, they juss take up all the space

True I think there are to many skylines i don't get it

 

[Gordonfan24]

I think there's an misunderstanding.

It's not because of the different year or variant Skylines, etc. that "other" cars didn't make it in the game. They can't add another car, just by skipping a year whatever Civic. You can't add Firebird in(good choice, btw 👍 ), substitue it for say '99 Skyline. Basis for that '99 Skyline was already there. All P.D. did was to tweak it a little to differentiate it from other year or variation Skylines. To add a Firebird, you are creating a whole new model from a scratch, not to mention the research and test drives of the Firebird.

These different years/version Skylines(etc.) are not preventing P.D. to add other cars. If you don't like certain types of Skylines or Civics, you can always opt not to use it.

I see what you're saying, and I agree. But. . . Depending on what year Firebird, can't they just modify the Camaro a bit? They've got a start on it with the basis of the Camaro, and seeing as the two were "sister cars", it couldn't be too hard to do.

Also, I agree with those that want to see more SUVs/trucks/vans. I like the idea. I think the Odyssey was cool (not particularly my favorite racecar) and it should stay.

But what to get rid of - that is a tough one. Like a few people said, I don't want to see any be taken out of the game, but put more in. But if I had to choose, I'd say get rid of one or two of every car that has more than 6 versions. Only a few of each. That right there adds about 4-5 more spots for another car to add.

 

[civicgsir]

i'm hoping all those d*mn skylines dont make it, they juss take up all the space

Like I said, with the Blu-ray disc being 50 gigabytes in data capacity, I dont think any car will be excluded. There is 5 times the disc space.

 

[cjrciadt]

The only R34 skyline i dont want to make to GT5 is the Purple edition thats it!!!!!!! We need an estate cup for the wagons like GT2.

 

[jamaican]

Like I said, with the Blu-ray disc being 50 gigabytes in data capacity, I dont think any car will be excluded. There is 5 times the disc space.

oohhh ok... then how about some suzuki gsx-r's and yamaha R1's

 

[FWA2500]

ok, more stuff that i would have posted before if the bell for the next class hadnt rung.....

the cars i want to have, any Ferraris--->i am a life long fan and MUST have my cars from Scuderia Ferrari
Trabant (dont ask, long story, lol)
more European cars in general

what i dont want, get rid of that frikkin superbird....its so ****ing ugly especially with that massive wing that makes ricer's look tiny.....
toss the trucks (and especially the truck race series), who the hell races trucks?

more classic race tracks would be very welcome (particularly the old GP circuits like Brands Hatch, Zandvoort, Monza before the added chicanes and when it still had the high banked oval--->for the configuration like they used in "Grand Prix", Long Beach, Watkins Glen, Spa, etc)...

i also hope they never adopt IRL/NASCRAP stuff in GT4, i cant stand turning left over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...........you get the idea

 

[gumpy]

There is only one reason in my mind to exclude cars and that is if by having 200 Skylines you must leave out car x, y and z. I doubt this is why cars have been left out. It is more likley to be licensing reasons, difficulty in modelling too many more cars or just that they do not know what car to add.

They have added heaps of cars since GT3 but obviously not every extra car we have asked for.

Other than that if you don't want 200 Skylines then only buy 10.

When I own 738 cars or however many there are I will enjoy taking each Skyline out and see what times I can get.

I say give us the option to get 738 cars if we want to or 10 if we want to.

I would like a few more sports trucks though and races for them.

And i know I will get caned for this but 1 or 2 NASCARS and 1 or 2 draf cars would be nice. Not to turn it into a NASCAR game but just to see how they drive in the game.

 

[a6m5]

There is only one reason in my mind to exclude cars and that is if by having 200 Skylines you must leave out car x, y and z. I doubt this is why cars have been left out. It is more likley to be licensing reasons, difficulty in modelling too many more cars or just that they do not know what car to add.

They have added heaps of cars since GT3 but obviously not every extra car we have asked for.

Other than that if you don't want 200 Skylines then only buy 10.

When I own 738 cars or however many there are I will enjoy taking each Skyline out and see what times I can get.

I say give us the option to get 738 cars if we want to or 10 if we want to.

I would like a few more sports trucks though and races for them.

And i know I will get caned for this but 1 or 2 NASCARS and 1 or 2 draf cars would be nice. Not to turn it into a NASCAR game but just to see how they drive in the game.

Exactly!

Also, I wouldn't mind some NASCAR either. I usually hate them(not a fan of oval), but it would be fun to take it around for a spin. Wasn't there an NASCAR Taurus in one of the GT games? Maybe GT2?

 

[FWA2500]

to put it bluntly, nascar cars would feel like **** compared to any other race car...same with IRL, they are only designed to turn left, look at the body shell (ha! body shell...so much for "stock car racing") and you will see they are lopsided....everything pushed over to the right side of the car so it looks "normal" while turning left......

 

[the-god-of-gt4]

I dont know which cars should not be in gt5 but I think these defenetly should: all mercedeses w202 like c43, c280, c220 and...by the way c43 used to be in gt2 but didnt make into other gt games what a disapointment http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/vbnv.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/sdftserte.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/ghf.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/fghfghgfh.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/cbncb.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/prejan/bxvb.bmp

 

[JohnBM01]

This is a bit of a silly topic. I think everyone has their favorites no matter what anyone else daresay about them. But if I had to choose, I'd say the Toyota Corolla WRC. This car been around since GT2, and I've never really liked this car. No power, no performance on or off-road, and just not really a fun rally car. Give me a Lancia rally race car anyday.

 

[Max_DC]

This is a bit of a silly topic.

Leave out the a " bit of " and replace it with " 🤬 "... then I fully agree...
This is so .... half of the people don't read through the posts and that's why I swear you every day there will be at least one new post of some noob posting :" Hey why are there 50 skylines in the game... I want a "random car unknown outside the US" in the game... PD you screwed it up...." . And those people seem not have wasted a single thought about how games are programed... they think there are 700 empty little parking lots on the dvd, and PD "wasted" 50 of them for Skylines, forgetting the fact that a single programer statistically needs 2 weeks for one car as I said above, while the 27th Skyline maybe takes an hour... Yes I said that before, but 5 posts after mine, the Skyline argument started again.... I would change
the name of the thread " N00b poll : Please post your thoughts here"...
Maybe I should just relax... if people like talking about it... why not...

 

[a6m5]

Leave out the a " bit of " and replace it with " 🤬 "... then I fully agree...
This is so .... half of the people don't read through the posts and that's why I swear you every day there will be at least one new post of some noob posting :" Hey why are there 50 skylines in the game... I want a "random car unknown outside the US" in the game... PD you screwed it up...." . And those people seem not have wasted a single thought about how games are programed... they think there are 700 empty little parking lots on the dvd, and PD "wasted" 50 of them for Skylines, forgetting the fact that a single programer statistically needs 2 weeks for one car as I said above, while the 27th Skyline maybe takes an hour... Yes I said that before, but 5 posts after mine, the Skyline argument started again.... I would change
the name of the thread " N00b poll : Please post your thoughts here"...
Maybe I should just relax... if people like talking about it... why not...

I know it. And everytime I post, I tell myself this is the last time...... 👎

 

[JohnBM01]

As I stated, several variations of ANY car in a game is enough to say "why so many of these xxxxxxx's?" Japanese game, they are the biggest contingent of the game. I think I have 600 cars overall in Arcade Mode. And among them, 62 are Nissans. I haven't got many of the racing Skylines yet. Fifty Skylines in a game is no different than fifty Camaros or whatever. I thought the Midnight Purple Skylines could have been trimmed down a bit. I think that this is still 700 or so cars. If a car has a completely different configuration, some added features, or whatever, THEN it would be a different variant of the car. This concerned me about the two Tommi Makkinen Lancers in GT3. One was in solid color, while the other had the stripe along the side. They both cost the same in the game, but it could have been one car, just as different options.

I'm American, but I'm not complaining over a lack of American cars in the game. I like a whole world of cars. I have everything from the Nissan Skyline Pace Car to a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS. I'd want more cars IN than OUT.

Don't go knocking the trucks, now. One of my favorites is the Toyota Tacoma X-Runner. In fact, I don't want to think of it as a truck because it has performance like a car. With some suspension modifcations and extra horsepower, it's actually one of the more unique machines to race with. I used a Ford SVT Lightning to win the Sport Truck Series, but the Tacoma is one of my tuner machines. In fact, I may think about buying another SVT Lightning to take to the road courses. These are performance trucks. I've seen them in rally racing, drag racing, some road racing, and if you want to call them "trucks," the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. And speaking of them, it would be nice to have the Dodge Ram SRT-10, or whatever it's called.

Why would you want cars out anyhow?