Cars you wish don't make it into GT5

[Classic Anycar]

Any car with less than 100 horsepower.

 

[Studentdriver]

Christ, you too? What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't make me break out the funk!

 

[Jetboy.]

Any car with less than 100 horsepower.

How about "any econobox (or in the case of the 360, econobubble) with less than 25 hp, except the 19th and early 20th century vehicles." 💡

 

[a6m5]

I don't mind the under powered cars, either. Heck, they can put in a mountain bike and I'll try it out. You might get hit by a RUF doing 180 mph though. Also, I'm not sure if I can make it up that uphill in Seattle......

 

[Jetboy.]

Heck, they can put in a mountain bike and I'll try it out. You might get hit by a RUF doing 180 mph though...

 

[-= XplosiV =-]

Personally, i dont see the point of having the real old 1890's - 1950's cars at all, unless PD are going to give you more of them and a good few races to actually use them.

Also i think PD could do better on the legendary cars / car makers, like where was Rolls Royce ?

One thing i definately DONT want to see if possible, is having a whole car comapny slot for one car ... just what is the point of having (IE) Land Rover for just one car, and its the same story all over the place.

So conclusion, if PD are gonna put wild and whacky old or new cars in, at least put in some variety that will make racing the fun to try - at least.

 

[L28eT]

All you guys who want ANY cars excluded for ANY reason from Gran Turismo are an insult to PD and Gran Turismo...

I would write more, but apparently none of you even REALIZE what Gran Turismo IS!!

So I guess I shouldn't WASTE valuable lifetime explaining to you, since you don't know a damn about what Gran Turismo REALLY is...

 

[JohnBM01]

One of the key points I made about GT4 is that it's almost completely pointless to have 700 cars available to you, and not want to try them out. It's perfectly fine to have your favorites, but I think this is also about finding other favorites besides your favorite rides. For example, you like Mustangs and Camaros only, why not try a FPV GT? There's all sorts of chances to enjoy other cars.

One thing GT4 has really impressed me with is all the Japanese classic cars. I'm not talking about (just) the GTP race cars, but take a good look. I think that Honda has some pretty nice classics. I think the S500, S600, and S800 (especially its racing variant) all seem to be pretty fun. They're so cute and tiny... That S800 Race Car is like a front-engined go-kart. So little horsepower, but it's perhaps one of the most nimble machines in the game. I do have a Chili Red Mini Cooper S at about 220hp, but this Honda S800 Race Car is pretty fun. Find all sorts of other favorites.

And as far as "what car you hope doesn't make it into GT5," it's basically pointless because let's face it. Whatever cars you dislike, someone else may like. I try to like all sorts of automobiles, so it's rare to see me dislike a certain genre of automobile. I have everything from a 1969 Camaro SS to a 2004 Pescarolo C60. I try to respect a world of automobile because I feel that each car is different. If I only like American muscle cars, how am I to appreciate the rest of the world of cars? The Gran Turismo series tries to help you understand all sorts of cars. I think you just don't buy cars only becuase you have to use them. For example, you have to race Peugeot 206's in a One-Make Series, and one would only buy one because they "have to" for 100% completion. I just think it's a bit foolish to just get a car and not really appreciate it in general. Every car you get and use in the game, I think you have to be one with your car. The more a GT gamer can appreciate a certain car and use it for victory, the more a GT gamer appreciates the cars in the game and is more likely to enjoy the experience of seeing the world even though you're confined to a PS2. So maybe "Forza Motorsport" is right:

"You are what you race." -"Forza Motorsport" slogan

 

[Maven]

i'm hoping all those d*mn skylines dont make it, they juss take up all the space

*sighs* I don't know how many times these kind of people need to be told something before they understand. You'd think they'd get it after a few times, but NO, you have to tell them like ten or twelve times before it gets through to them.

Let's say it takes about 1 meg to render a single car in a game (I have no idea really). Now, to take that car and copy it and to change the bumber, or the wing, or the wheels would only take a small fraction of the amount of memory of a full car. Get it? No? Not yet? Okay, let's try it a different way. In order to put in one other car, you'd have to take out maybe 50 copies of the other cars. I guess PD didn't feel it was worth it.

However, that beind said, how they didn't make a dozen clone cars of American cars? They could have taken the Camaro and the Corvette and duplicated those. Taken the Mustang Cobra R and made more Mustangs... *shrugs*

Oh, and I think all those people who believe that there will be thousands and thousands of cars in GT5 are going to be quite disappointed. Personally, I'm not expecting much more than 200, maybe 300. It takes more than disc space to put these cars in a game. It takes time. A lot of time. But expect those cars to look better than anything you've ever seen in a game to date. Plus, I imagine that the damage system will be spectacular.

 

[jamaican]

*sighs* I don't know how many times these kind of people need to be told something before they understand. You'd think they'd get it after a few times, but NO, you have to tell them like ten or twelve times before it gets through to them.

Let's say it takes about 1 meg to render a single car in a game (I have no idea really). Now, to take that car and copy it and to change the bumber, or the wing, or the wheels would only take a small fraction of the amount of memory of a full car. Get it? No? Not yet? Okay, let's try it a different way. In order to put in one other car, you'd have to take out maybe 50 copies of the other cars. I guess PD didn't feel it was worth it.

However, that beind said, how they didn't make a dozen clone cars of American cars? They could have taken the Camaro and the Corvette and duplicated those. Taken the Mustang Cobra R and made more Mustangs... *shrugs*

Oh, and I think all those people who believe that there will be thousands and thousands of cars in GT5 are going to be quite disappointed. Personally, I'm not expecting much more than 200, maybe 300. It takes more than disc space to put these cars in a game. It takes time. A lot of time. But expect those cars to look better than anything you've ever seen in a game to date. Plus, I imagine that the damage system will be spectacular.

thanks i sorta got it before... sorry i sounded so mean

It takes more than disc space to put these cars in a game

why don't they just have two discs... one for all those S class and muscle/vintage cars, then one for street cars... i dunno what to call them, regular cars i guess. and both discs would have exactly the same tracks and everything, just the cars would be different... now that i'm thinking about it, it doesn't really makes sense it sounded better in my head

 

[a6m5]

why don't they just have two discs... one for all those S class and muscle/vintage cars, then one for street cars... i dunno what to call them, regular cars i guess. and both discs would have exactly the same tracks and everything, just the cars would be different... now that i'm thinking about it, it doesn't really makes sense it sounded better in my head

Read what Maven said again. He's not talking about disc space, he's saying disc space is not the factor, time is. It's true, for GT5, it's going to require a lot of time and manpower from P.D.

P.S. PS3 is using the blu-ray DVDs, so disc space shouldn't be a problem..... I don't think.

 

[Caio]

A zillion of unknow japanese old cars instead of powerful european exotic super cars.

 

[Bossman]

a6m5

P.S. PS3 is using the blu-ray DVDs, so disc space shouldn't be a problem..... I don't think.

I agree since there should be enough space for around 3-4000 Cars!



As for which Cars I would not want in GT5, it does not matter to me, because at some point I'm bound to be driving around the Ring at Max difficulty in a Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato or a Fiat 126 BIS (as an example) for a laugh one day.

 

[~SpoonDC5~]

This thread is so pointless...whats the point of taking cars out of Gran turismo..its pointless..why would they call it a Simlualtion Game..when ur taking cars out for no reason...if u don't like the variety cars they have in there, then i suggest to u go find some other racing game that has less varieity...some of u people are so damn pciky..complaing sometimes is a good thing but complaing and being very picky all the time is plain nonsesn..why would PD make GT in the first place..to enjoy all the cars u want..in a variety from Antique,collectalbles,and modern cars..And many of u are saying there is to much Japanese cars and need more American cars.? hello..? its a Japanese Game not a American game...just to get it straight...they can add as many Japanes cars as they like...and i will prefer Japanese car over some of the ugliest of some American cars..and more European cars too will be nice...overall i'm not picky..so i will want all the cars back for GT5..and maybe more...

 

[356C]

NASCAR, it has its own game.

 

[Ram-Rod]

Well, i like the cars with less than 100 hp. But only becaue their classics. But cars like The Benz 3 Wheeler, and the Suburau 360. I think the shuld get rid of those cars to race. But still have it in the game, but you cant buy them or win them, just have them to look at.

 

[mechman1979]

Hey All The Arguements And None Of Us Will Ever Get To Chose The Cars So Stop Complaning The Only Thing That Bothers Me Is Not Being Able To Use The Damn Cars In Event Which I Am Sure Will Not Happen In Gt5. Only One Car Could Have Been Missed And That Was An Awd Eclipse.

 

[DeadlyFred]

All the different variations and excess of pretty much useless "Economy cars" is all well and good, but if they had to sacrifice some of them to add more different cars, I wouldn't shed a tear. Basically, they can be as redundant as they want with the car lineup as long as they don't sacrifice actual variety for it. It wouldn't hurt to add some races that actually give you a reason to race half those cars, either.

Sure, GT is about collecting and driving real-world cars, but is IS also a racing game, there should be more stuff available to RACE, or at least more races for junky cars, heh.

 

[356C]

All the different variations and excess of pretty much useless "Economy cars" is all well and good, but if they had to sacrifice some of them to add more different cars, I wouldn't shed a tear. Basically, they can be as redundant as they want with the car lineup as long as they don't sacrifice actual variety for it. It wouldn't hurt to add some races that actually give you a reason to race half those cars, either.

Sure, GT is about collecting and driving real-world cars, but is IS also a racing game, there should be more stuff available to RACE, or at least more races for junky cars, heh.

I totally agree that their should be more races. Specifically, I think their should be more vintage races, for the different ages of the cars. Have vintage races cover anything from before 1970 car get really annoying. I have a number of cars from the early 70's that really have no races well suited to them. For example my '73 BMW 2002 Turbo, or the '73(i think) Nissan Skyline, etc. It just seems to me that they forgot to make races for them. It would be nice, if in GT5 they allow you to make your own races as well, where you set the parameters.

 

[Studentdriver]

Well, for that Skyline of your's, there's the 70's Japanese race, but I'm sure that just slipped your mind. I also find it irritating that there's no race for, say, 70's and 80's European cars. It's not really a problem with the American cars since they barely have any of those .

A little more on topic, I don't really see the point of including a concept car that is very similar to it's production version, like the Ford GT '02 and the RX-8's (there are two conepts of those, right?) It doesn't make up that many cars, but I just don't see the point.

 

[Maven]

I think there are far more people who understand what PD are trying to do by including the small K-cars than people who hate them, so hopefully we'll continue to see them. If you only want to drive ungodly powerful cars, go play Forza or Project Gotham Racing or Test Drive and leave Gran Turismo to the rest of us.

 

[DeadlyFred]

It might be a little easier to understand if there were more of a reason for them to be there.

I mean, honestly, how far can you get in the game racing some little econobox that has 70hp AFTER every mod you can possibly buy for it?

I'm not necessarilly saying they shouldn't be in there (though the sheer number of them is a bit redundant) but there's no place to race them. It doesn't matter how good of a driver you are when your competition in 90% of the races would outclass you horribly.

They can include whatever cars they want, I LIKE variety, but there needs to be a reason for them to be there aside from just "Oh hay, I drive this car, cool!" or "Hey that's and insanely neat/ugly car! *stare*"

Having 700+ cars in a game would be a much greater asset if even half of them were actually useful in more than one race series.

I have nothing against old or low powered cars, in fact I'd love to see a slew of old 30s-40s cars in GT5, or heck even a Plymouth Reliant K-Cup. As long as there are places to race them, put them in the game.

But you don't need a selection of 100 nearly identical little boxes to choose from to race one or two circuits.

 

[fastcatsi]

It might be a little easier to understand if there were more of a reason for them to be there.

I mean, honestly, how far can you get in the game racing some little econobox that has 70hp AFTER every mod you can possibly buy for it?

I'm not necessarilly saying they shouldn't be in there (though the sheer number of them is a bit redundant) but there's no place to race them. It doesn't matter how good of a driver you are when your competition in 90% of the races would outclass you horribly.

They can include whatever cars they want, I LIKE variety, but there needs to be a reason for them to be there aside from just "Oh hay, I drive this car, cool!" or "Hey that's and insanely neat/ugly car! *stare*"

Having 700+ cars in a game would be a much greater asset if even half of them were actually useful in more than one race series.

I have nothing against old or low powered cars, in fact I'd love to see a slew of old 30s-40s cars in GT5, or heck even a Plymouth Reliant K-Cup. As long as there are places to race them, put them in the game.

But you don't need a selection of 100 nearly identical little boxes to choose from to race one or two circuits.

Keep in mind, GT4 is toted as "The Real Driving simulator. It's not all about winning races and whatnot. It's also about taking a car, any car, onto a track and enjoying the experience. While it would be nice to have more econo box only races I fear that people would only whine about having to drive the damn things to finish the game.

Case in point, I'm currently driving my Honda Step Van with a stock gearbox (Tops out at 65mph!) in the Turbo cup (I added a stage 1 to it). Yes I'm getting my butt kicked but I'm enjoying the drive.

I find that I like the little econo boxes more than the fast cars. Each of these little buggers has it's own personality and I like the experience.

Should PD use mostly race cars? Well that alienates people like me.
Should PD use mostly econo boxes? That alienates players like yourself which isnt good either.

As it is, I think there's a nice balance between the rockets and the put-puts. A little something for everyone.....

 

[DeadlyFred]

Nah, I'm hardly a "Race car lover"

I actually kinda dislike the races in which you have to drive the "supercars". I like the production models, I just like for half of em to have more HP than a lawnmower.