Cars You Would Never Buy For Any Price

[CarreraGT]

Low-end: Any Ford (AU) or Holden made post-2016 (thank you Australian government 👍)

It's not the government's fault - the industry was being subsidised beyond being sustainable. We were producing inferior quality cars for twice the price of the Chinese/Korean etc...

Problem is, we have it too good in Australia. We want a manufacturing industry but we also want fair and reasonable working hours, $100k+ salary and the best living standards in the world...

 

[Liquid]

Vauxhall Cavalier Convertible

Ford Escort Convertible

You may detect a pattern here. There are very few cars on which I like a soft top (MX-5 being one of the select few). I just don't like them, or convertibles, very much and I hate soft tops on cars which are thoroughly undeserving of one.

Even if the models, like the Cavalier, are terrible cars, there is a chance I might purchase one of the other trim levels or body shapes for funsies. But these monstrosities specifically? Absolutely never.

 

[Northstar]

Vauxhall Cavalier Convertible

And I thought the U.S. spec Cavalier was bad.

Ford Escort Convertible

And this one looks like a special needs Foxbody.
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[Inferno251]

It's not the government's fault - the industry was being subsidised beyond being sustainable. We were producing inferior quality cars for twice the price of the Chinese/Korean etc...

Problem is, we have it too good in Australia. We want a manufacturing industry but we also want fair and reasonable working hours, $100k+ salary and the best living standards in the world...

I agree with what you are saying, we were producing average cars in an industry that was slowly becoming unprofitable.
With that in mind, there should have been an attempt to rebrand the fading images of Holden and Ford, whether it be focusing on luxury, performance, economy, etc.
But no. GM were too lazy to do that, and the government merely complied. Now all that is left is a name, a badge they merely place on their American cars (although, to be fair, R&D still exists here).

Fortunately, the industry still survives with a plethora of small-scale companies. I would like to see these Australian made and owned companies grow and take over the gap that has been left in the car industry (that way it might still have a chance). And perhaps do away with the need for government subsidies.

As for the salary aspect, that is also true. If you're demanding $20-25/hour for a car that can built offshore by someone willing to work for $8/hour, is that company likely to continuously support you in the long term? Basically an impossible dream...

 

[CarreraGT]

I agree with what you are saying, we were producing average cars in an industry that was slowly becoming unprofitable.
With that in mind, there should have been an attempt to rebrand the fading images of Holden and Ford, whether it be focusing on luxury, performance, economy, etc.
But no. GM were too lazy to do that, and the government merely complied. Now all that is left is a name, a badge they merely place on their American cars (although, to be fair, R&D still exists here).

Fortunately, the industry still survives with a plethora of small-scale companies. I would like to see these Australian made and owned companies grow and take over the gap that has been left in the car industry (that way it might still have a chance). And perhaps do away with the need for government subsidies.

As for the salary aspect, that is also true. If you're demanding $20-25/hour for a car that can built offshore by someone willing to work for $8/hour, is that company likely to continuously support you in the long term? Basically an impossible dream...

Unfortunately no amount of re-branding can overcome high production costs. Besides, Australian designed and built cars make no sense for a global organisation in terms of economies of scale because the market is too small. Why would anyone overseas want to buy an oversize, overweight, GM scrap bin special when there are so many better alternatives available from Europe and Asia. They tried selling the commodore in the US and nobody bought it, and if you can't sell an oversized, under-engineering V8 car to an American, who can you sell it to?

That wasn't intended to sound as harsh as it did because I was once a big fan of the local car industry, but its the unfortunate truth. While I think it is a travesty that a country does not "build" anything (i.e. cars, steel, FMCG etc.), closing the Australian automotive manufacturing industry was the only logical business option

 

[Inferno251]

That wasn't intended to sound as harsh as it did because I was once a big fan of the local car industry, but its the unfortunate truth. While I think it is a travesty that a country does not "build" anything (i.e. cars, steel, FMCG etc.), closing the Australian automotive manufacturing industry was the only logical business option

It indeed is a travesty, but at least we can build submarines instead...

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

You may detect a pattern here. There are very few cars on which I like a soft top (MX-5 being one of the select few). I just don't like them, or convertibles, very much and I hate soft tops on cars which are thoroughly undeserving of one.

Ahem.

Abysmal.

On-topic, there practically aren't any cars I wouldn't buy for any price (especially if that meant a ridiculously low sum, like a penny). After all, its transportation at the end of the day. I make exceptions for these two however:

I cannot stand them.

 

[CarreraGT]

It indeed is a travesty, but at least we can build submarines instead...

Haha, if it actually gets off the ground...

 

[Tornado]

And I thought the U.S. spec Cavalier was bad.

It really is kind of shocking. They look even worse with the roof down:

Both the American ones and the Opel ones were farmed out to design and produce, but it's baffling that the people who designed the Ascona based ones put much more engineering work into designing a substantially worse looking solution to "how do we make a convertible out of a Cavalier".

 

[7up747]

The biggest problem with opel ascona C and all opels in general was rust until 2000~. I can't remember one i saw around because they all rusted away. Also it was downgrade that they come from rwd chasis to fwd and lost rally pedigree.

From

To

With c generation you got this thing... and no competition in racing.

 

[jimipitbull]

It's not the government's fault - the industry was being subsidised beyond being sustainable. We were producing inferior quality cars for twice the price of the Chinese/Korean etc...

Problem is, we have it too good in Australia. We want a manufacturing industry but we also want fair and reasonable working hours, $100k+ salary and the best living standards in the world...

I think you will find that most car companies, regardless of which country they are in, have been and are still subsidised by their government. I'd much rather subsidise Holden and stop the whole politician's set for life superannuation and benefits schemes

Future generations will suffer greatly from many decisions the baby boomers have made/are still making. .

 

[Liquid]

The first gen Vauxhall Cavalier, which was visually different to the classic Ascona B whose running gear it is based on, is bad in convertible form too. It's also incredibly rare.

It looks like a concept car that got out of hand:

Not as bad as the second gen Cavalier/Ascona though, truth be told. Without the exposed T-bar, the rear isn't that bad:

And it's nice to see this in an early 90s setting where the shellsuit jackets on the blokes have aged as terribly as the car has.

 

[Tornado]

I like basket handles on convertibles of a certain shape (though that is a particularly nasty implementation of such), but if they were going to have it go to the windshield frame why did they even bother? Just make T-Tops in the original roof and be done with it.

 

[Razor440]

This. The REVA G-Whiz. If you gave it to me for free, I'd pay you to take it off my property.

 

[Losco]

VW Golf

 

[lxmmy]

VW Golf

And directed at the wider crowd, this isn't just a thread for posting pictures of cars you don't like. Look at the title - it's cars you would never buy for any price. Pick a car or cars and tell us why you wouldn't even buy them for a penny you found on the floor.

 

[TS050]

@lxmmy mfw there was someone on the previous page that wouldn't take a Veyron for a penny if it was offered to them without giving any reasons why

 

[Obelisk]

Large pick-up trucks. I see no practical use in them.

 

[Losco]

VW Golf

Because I don't like the way it feels, because there's to many of em, because I don't like VW in general.

And, as someone said, pick-ups and stuff like that. I simply can't imagine why I should drive one of those things

 

[SPhilli911]

I too would never buy any Volkswagen, but only because I feel that they are unreliable. I've had many in my life and each and every one of them had issues. Even new ones seem to have issues, in fact, my brother's 2015 GTI is on it's second motor after the first one failed due to a manufacturer defect at only 10,000 miles.

Sure, all cars will have issues, but the frequency and severity of issues I've had in my VWs were enough to keep me away from them.

 

[Losco]

I too would never buy any Volkswagen, but only because I feel that they are unreliable. I've had many in my life and each and every one of them had issues. Even new ones seem to have issues, in fact, my brother's 2015 GTI is on it's second motor after the first one failed due to a manufacturer defect at only 10,000 miles.

Sure, all cars will have issues, but the frequency and severity of issues I've had in my VWs were enough to keep me away from them.

I see, but this isn't the main problem to me....
... I drive an Alfa Romeo that's way worse

 

[SPhilli911]

I see, but this isn't the main problem to me....
... I drive an Alfa Romeo that's way worse

Sure, but an Alfa has character when it breaks down which a VW does not.

 

[Tornado]

It really is amazing the perception difference Volkswagen has caused for themself between the Europe built, European (and occasionally American) market cars and the Mexico built, American market cars.

 

[Losco]

Sure, but an Alfa has character when it breaks down which a VW does not.

Completely agree

 

[7up747]

I too would never buy any Volkswagen, but only because I feel that they are unreliable. I've had many in my life and each and every one of them had issues. Even new ones seem to have issues, in fact, my brother's 2015 GTI is on it's second motor after the first one failed due to a manufacturer defect at only 10,000 miles.

Sure, all cars will have issues, but the frequency and severity of issues I've had in my VWs were enough to keep me away from them.

Well i had vw golf mk2 1.6 long time ago and it was dead reliable. All the cars i had after it never matched it. Yes it's boring, yes it's everywhere and so on but mk2 was and still is a cheap to run and brilliant car. Wish i had 16v gti...

 

[SPhilli911]

Well i had vw golf mk2 1.6 long time ago and it was dead reliable. All the cars i had after it never matched it. Yes it's boring, yes it's everywhere and so on but mk2 was and still is a cheap to run and brilliant car. Wish i had 16v gti...

I will say that I think the earlier the VW the better in terms of reliability, to be fair. Of all the VWs I've owned, the 2003 GTI was the most unreliable and the 1990 Passat I had was the most reliable.

 

[Neddo]

just no

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

It's an ugly, dreadful mess of an electric car and I can't stand it. I wouldn't dare even trying one. It looks like it was designed by a ruler and it can't go very far without needing a charge. This would drive me nuts and if I were to have a small car; an old Mini would be way better than this.

 

[Neddo]

They just ruined it way below ruining

 

[Obelisk]

I like it. Looks aggressive.