Casio's New Car Thread | Svenska Power!

[homeforsummer]

Old 99s and 900s are ace. A 900 T16 is still bubbling under as a possible choice for my next car. So much character and they sound fantastic.

 

[Leonidae]

remember to wave at Vectra drivers, they're your step-brothers and sisters now.

 

[homeforsummer]

Similar platform, similar engines, very little else in common. Vectras/Cavaliers are hateful things, Saabs are generally quite nice, just unfortunately not the most reliable devices.

(Also, Casio isn't likely to see many in the States )

 

[Eric.]

(Also, Casio isn't likely to see many in the States )

Since when is Melbourne in the U.S.?

 

[homeforsummer]

Since when is Melbourne in the U.S.?

Sorry, brain fade. I assumed. And you know what they say about assumption...

 

[Slicks]

Looks good, Casio. Just remember not to wax it in the sun
I'd reccomend any of the mainstream products available where you are. Caranuaba is key, and I'd go for either a paste or liquid wax.


(DAMN... That blue Viggen = )

 

[YSSMAN]

Tee hee, Saabs do that to people.

I've always wanted an old 9000 (yes, 9000) turbo. Not sure why, just think they're pretty awesome.

 

[Casio]

Tee hee, Saabs do that to people.

I've always wanted an old 9000 (yes, 9000) turbo. Not sure why, just think they're pretty awesome.

9000 Turbo's are fairly awesome. Though the dealer I got it off reckons they're the worst ones.

 

[Philly]

Do they all come with clear turn indicators over there? That's kind of a mark of a "Saab enthusiast" here apparently... And I have this Meguiars Gold Class liquid wax that works very well, much better than the yellow caranuba that comes in a tin that I have.

Not sure. They don't say. They're selling a "Viggen Style" rear spoiler painted and fitted for $400 though.

EDIT: A Viggen Spoiler and those 3rd set of Wheels would look pretty hot actually...argghhh. Must. Resist. Besides, I don't want to be a poser.

The Viggen wing uses different holes holes on the trunk than the standard one, so you need new ones to do that. In other words, don't do it yourself. I'd put my money into an intake and exhaust before a new wing anyway. And get a bigger anti-roll bar. The difference is amazing. And it is incredibly easy to put on.

 

[homeforsummer]

Do they all come with clear turn indicators over there? That's kind of a mark of a "Saab enthusiast" here apparently...

Far as I know, in the UK at least they all have clear indicators, both in the main light units and the repeaters on the wing. In fact, the repeaters on the Saabs we have are smoked as standard.

 

[Jay]

9000 Turbo's are fairly awesome. Though the dealer I got it off reckons they're the worst ones.

There used to be a hot 9000 turbo near my house, it had wide wheel arches and power to match!

 

[Casio]

The Viggen wing uses different holes holes on the trunk than the standard one, so you need new ones to do that. In other words, don't do it yourself. I'd put my money into an intake and exhaust before a new wing anyway. And get a bigger anti-roll bar. The difference is amazing. And it is incredibly easy to put on.

The $400 includes painting and fitting. Which is pretty good as far as I know. But I was looking into an exhaust and things, I saw they had this 3" exhaust system on the Abbot Racing site. Maybe I'll investigate some small mods once my 6 month warranty is up. They have heaps of stuff here, but I don't know what shipping is like from the UK, and I'll have to drive it over to Jay to install it because I don't know how (and he doesn't know I'm making him do it yet).

Though any modifications won't exactly help the $3700 they quoted me for insurance...That said, 'Just Car Insurance' I found the other day would do it for $2200, which is so much cheaper than anything else that I think something must be up (My most expensive quote was $5100...), any Australians had any experience with them???

 

[Casio]

I'M NOW OFFICIALLY A SAAB OWNER.
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My car is going into the shop on Saturday for repairs!

 

[Leonidae]

do I even want to know what happened? Or was it just typical GM issue?

 

[Casio]

do I even want to know what happened? Or was it just typical GM issue?

I'm driving and all of a sudden. My Speedo stops working, everything else is fine, but the speedo just sits on 0km/h, and my odometer doesn't go up either. Then 30 minutes later, it'll come back on again. It's really strange. Happens every day for about 30 minutes, then it'll come back on, then 30 minutes later it'll go off again. It's under warranty so it's not an issue for me payment wise. At my milage is only going up half as much at the moment . The guy reckon's the heat from last week could have messed with the electronics or something.

Though, I did take it to my personal mechcanic today, and he said the Head Gasket is leaking, but apart from that it's in perfect condition mechcanically. So when I called up the Saab Repairer about the above issue, I also mentioned that I might need a replacement Head Gasket thing, to which he replied "All Head Gaskets leak a little bit, if I replaced everyone which had a slight leak then I'd be replacing 500 a day, it's normal". It sounds like ******** to me, I'll try and take a picture and see what you guys think of it. I called another Saab Dealer who said "They're known to Weep over time but if it's actually leaking onto the ground then it'll need replacing".

I'll definately challenge him about it cause they're probably not wanting to replace it under warranty, and rather I pay them 3k in 12 months time.

 

[homeforsummer]

I'm driving and all of a sudden. My Speedo stops working, everything else is fine, but the speedo just sits on 0km/h, and my odometer doesn't go up either. Then 30 minutes later, it'll come back on again. It's really strange.

My mum's Peugeot 406 used to do that. She replaced that car with a 9-3

 

[Leonidae]

could be just an oxidized connection or worn out wire, that speedo glitch.. ask them to check those out. and if you can locate the fuse box, see what kind of condition those are. better safe than sorry..

 

[YSSMAN]

My mum's Peugeot 406 used to do that. She replaced that car with a 9-3

The old Camry, and even my Jetta, had the same problem. Small leaks happen, and you'll know when its really bad. But, if its under warranty, there isn't any reason not to do it... Just to be safe.

 

[Jay]

Though, I did take it to my personal mechcanic today, and he said the Head Gasket is leaking, but apart from that it's in perfect condition mechcanically. So when I called up the Saab Repairer about the above issue, I also mentioned that I might need a replacement Head Gasket thing, to which he replied "All Head Gaskets leak a little bit, if I replaced everyone which had a slight leak then I'd be replacing 500 a day, it's normal". It sounds like ******** to me, I'll try and take a picture and see what you guys think of it. I called another Saab Dealer who said "They're known to Weep over time but if it's actually leaking onto the ground then it'll need replacing".

I'll definately challenge him about it cause they're probably not wanting to replace it under warranty, and rather I pay them 3k in 12 months time.

Head gaskets should not leak (very very mild weep over many many kilometres can be acceptable) and it is not normal, maybe for these Saab engines it is common and generally ignored by techs (if no harm is being done) but it is not normal otherwise. Problem with head gasket replacing is the labour, the whole top half of your engine has to be removed and if the block deck needs to be faced (the leak can be caused by the surface of the block or head being out of spec) then they whole engine needs to be removed, stripped and rebuilt again. Lot of time and money, just make sure they don't ignore real problems because the dealer doesn't want to coff out for a warrenty claim.

And it will cost you big dollars if you have to pay for it yourself.


As for the speedo, sounds like electrics issue which could be simple, but because it is intermittent it could also be a big pain.

 

[McLaren]

I'm driving and all of a sudden. My Speedo stops working, everything else is fine, but the speedo just sits on 0km/h, and my odometer doesn't go up either. Then 30 minutes later, it'll come back on again. It's really strange. Happens every day for about 30 minutes, then it'll come back on, then 30 minutes later it'll go off again. It's under warranty so it's not an issue for me payment wise. At my milage is only going up half as much at the moment . The guy reckon's the heat from last week could have messed with the electronics or something.

Though, I did take it to my personal mechcanic today, and he said the Head Gasket is leaking, but apart from that it's in perfect condition mechcanically. So when I called up the Saab Repairer about the above issue, I also mentioned that I might need a replacement Head Gasket thing, to which he replied "All Head Gaskets leak a little bit, if I replaced everyone which had a slight leak then I'd be replacing 500 a day, it's normal". It sounds like ******** to me, I'll try and take a picture and see what you guys think of it. I called another Saab Dealer who said "They're known to Weep over time but if it's actually leaking onto the ground then it'll need replacing".

I'll definately challenge him about it cause they're probably not wanting to replace it under warranty, and rather I pay them 3k in 12 months time.

Sounds exactly like what happened to my friend's old Accord. Mechanic had the same theory as your first, that the heat messed with it. Was just a cable issue though, and wasn't too much of an issue for my friend, so hopefully, the same goes for you.

 

[Casio]

Head gaskets should not leak (very very mild weep over many many kilometres can be acceptable) and it is not normal, maybe for these Saab engines it is common and generally ignored by techs (if no harm is being done) but it is not normal otherwise. Problem with head gasket replacing is the labour, the whole top half of your engine has to be removed and if the block deck needs to be faced (the leak can be caused by the surface of the block or head being out of spec) then they whole engine needs to be removed, stripped and rebuilt again. Lot of time and money, just make sure they don't ignore real problems because the dealer doesn't want to coff out for a warrenty claim.

And it will cost you big dollars if you have to pay for it yourself.


As for the speedo, sounds like electrics issue which could be simple, but because it is intermittent it could also be a big pain.

He reckons it's something called a sensor module, or something, and a little research on the internet shows a couple of people have had the same problem. I'm not sure what the sensor module is, but the dealer has confirmed that they're paying for it, and it is around $500.

Their was actually 2 small leaks. One from whatever this is at the top of the engine "Cam Plug"? Or something, but apparently that's quite an easy and cheap fix. But I'm still not going to pay for it.

This is the general area my mechcanic showed me, I think, I can't see too much now, so I may have got the wrong area.

Looking at the front of the car that is on the Right-Hand Side of the Engine.

This is what the other dealer I enquired with said

The headgaskets are known to weep slightly after a period of time , but
if there is an oil leak and is dripping oil this can be a problem and
will usually need dismantling to rectify, aprox costs depending on
machine work if required can be $1800.00 plus machining

Obviously I'm not paying for English though

Sounds exactly like what happened to my friend's old Accord. Mechanic had the same theory as your first, that the heat messed with it. Was just a cable issue though, and wasn't too much of an issue for my friend, so hopefully, the same goes for you.

Yeah, hopefully I won't have too much trouble beyond this. It's really a fantastic car.

 

[kikie]

Nice car!

Hopefully you have better luck with this one.

 

[Jay]

He reckons it's something called a sensor module, or something, and a little research on the internet shows a couple of people have had the same problem. I'm not sure what the sensor module is, but the dealer has confirmed that they're paying for it, and it is around $500.

Sensor module is on the transmission which has a toothed wheel like a gear directly on the output shaft (hidden from view) then outputs a voltage to your ECU and speedo, in other words, it's a speed sensor. It is a easy fix (depending on access) most of the $500 must be due to the cost of the replacement part.

One from whatever this is at the top of the engine "Cam Plug"? Or something, but apparently that's quite an easy and cheap fix. But I'm still not going to pay for it.

Yep the first one is quite easy and is actually a servicable item when required.

The second leak is a little hard to see to tell without seeing in person, often these sorts of leaks weep out of the cam cover seal rather than the headgasket though it looks too low for that. If thats all the leak is and it is not constant (just very slow seep, no dripping) then it wouldnt be worth bothering with, even though you are not paying for it, it is never nice to pull heads off or strip engines down when you dont need too.

That $1800 is actually about what I expected from a shop on a car like this.


Anyway nice to see you enjoying it, some reason now I notice lots of Saabs around

 

[Casio]

Sensor module is on the transmission which has a toothed wheel like a gear directly on the output shaft (hidden from view) then outputs a voltage to your ECU and speedo, in other words, it's a speed sensor. It is a easy fix (depending on access) most of the $500 must be due to the cost of the replacement part.

To me it's actually quite annoying cause it throws off my Average Fuel Comsumption Display, because it assumes I'm not moving when I'm buring fuel it keeps going up and up and up. Kinda annoying because I've been trying to see how economic I can get it. I'm at 9.3L/100km at the moment with the speedo not working for 40% of the time. So that's not bad.

But could that Sensor Module fail due to heat or something? The information I got off the internet said it may be due to the ABS Module failing(Which may be part of the Sensor module), which is why when the speedo fails the ABS light comes on. But it really doesn't sound something heat related. And what, next year when it's 40C again it fails and I have to get another one?

Anyway nice to see you enjoying it, some reason now I notice lots of Saabs around

Yeah me too. The other day I had an old 900 behind me and he speed up and drove next to me to check my car out. It's really a good car to drive, and if you drive with the Windows Down and the Radio Off you can hear the turbo whirling up and down, which is pretty cool. I do think in future I'd like an exhaust system though, it's just a little too quiet sometimes.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Intake > exhaust

You'll hear the turbo more with an intake, and it won't be louder under cruise, just under throttle.

 

[Jay]

But could that Sensor Module fail due to heat or something? The information I got off the internet said it may be due to the ABS Module failing(Which may be part of the Sensor module), which is why when the speedo fails the ABS light comes on. But it really doesn't sound something heat related. And what, next year when it's 40C again it fails and I have to get another one?

Heat could be an issue but I honestly doubt it if it is the speed sensor (Sensor Module)

The reason the ABS light comes one is because the ABS controller needs to know how fast the car is going, once it senses no speed (due to faulty speed sensor module) and it knows the wheels are still moving (wheel speed sensors the ABS uses) so then there is a conflict and the ABS controller sets off the ABS light, the ABS system wont be able to function like that.

and if you drive with the Windows Down and the Radio Off you can hear the turbo whirling up and down, which is pretty cool. I do think in future I'd like an exhaust system though, it's just a little too quiet sometimes.

As Rotary Junkie said you'll want to loosen up the intake more if you want to hear it spool. Soon you will be dosing, I told you!

 

[Casio]

Heat could be an issue but I honestly doubt it if it is the speed sensor (Sensor Module)

The reason the ABS light comes one is because the ABS controller needs to know how fast the car is going, once it senses no speed (due to faulty speed sensor module) and it knows the wheels are still moving (wheel speed sensors the ABS uses) so then there is a conflict and the ABS controller sets off the ABS light, the ABS system wont be able to function like that.

For someone from South Australia you're pretty smart you know Jay, thanks for all the info 👍

As Rotary Junkie said you'll want to loosen up the intake more if you want to hear it spool. Soon you will be dosing, I told you!

Hahaha. Where do I get an intake from anyway? Are they specific to Saabs or other makes or are they universal. Where would be a good place to start that's not off the back of the truck or "My brothers friend has an old intake you can have". Does it have any other benefits other than maybe making it sound cool?

 

[MCubed]

Well, since I'm here,
nice Saab 👍
Also, I like the 4th set of wheels.

 

[Keef]

Did you ever get this up up to spec? You had leaks and stuff to fix right? Also, I have some ideas...

Easy power. Plus, it's all stuff you can install yourself. You gain a lot of flow with a few of the most important parts, plus a louder sound from the muffler. All stainless parts too, so they'll never rust. Oh, and the wheels.

 

[Jay]

Easy power. Plus, it's all stuff you can install yourself.

Install himself? That would like.... require him to get under the car..