Chances of Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo's

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Jedi2016
What's aggrivating is the idea that I'll never be able to drive a Ferrari in a video game without buying an Xbox or Xbox360.

You can always go back to the older games like 355 challenge or the original Need For Speed series. To this day, F355 challenge is still one of the most unforgiving and realistic physics engine.
 
Jedi2016
Sounded like a packaged answer to me, probably read off of a memo sent to all their employees.

EA is clearly not the only person who has the license. Test Drive, PGR, Forza.. none of those are EA games.

I wish PD would just give us a straight answer. Either they have the license or they don't. All I want is a screenshot with an F430 or something, that'll answer all our questions in one go.
And notice all of those are Microsoft's games.

I still haven't seen a multi-platform racing game besides NFS: MW for the next gen. that has supercars...Let's hope GT is not the only exlusive sports car racer for Sony.

Unfornately, Test Drive is the ultimate reason I have a 360 on reserve. PGR3 will hold me over until its release next year.
 
GN+: F355 is a good idea. Pity it's almost impossible to find these days, owing to it's age.

McLaren: NFS:MW will have Lamborghinis, but no Ferraris. Besides, I don't like the idiotic "street racing" bull***t that EA's been doing lately. I want the OLD Need for Speed back, dammit.

Isn't Test Drive coming to PS3? I could have sworn I'd read that on a few different forums, but now I can't find it to save my life.
 
Jedi2016
GN+: F355 is a good idea. Pity it's almost impossible to find these days, owing to it's age.

McLaren: NFS:MW will have Lamborghinis, but no Ferraris. Besides, I don't like the idiotic "street racing" bull***t that EA's been doing lately. I want the OLD Need for Speed back, dammit.

Isn't Test Drive coming to PS3? I could have sworn I'd read that on a few different forums, but now I can't find it to save my life.
There's going to be Lamborghinis in Most Wanted? When did this happen!?
All I've seen is the BMW, Mazda, Corvette (resembles the C6R actually), and SLR.
 
Lambo's have been conirmed by EA and other supercars will be in too.
 
One of the previews on IGN said it:

"We learned there are at least 40 cars in NFS: Most Wanted, including models from Porsche (including the new Camen S), Mazda (RX8), Toyota, Chevy (Corvette), Ford (Mustang, GT), Lamborghini, Cadillac, BMW (GT4), and Volkswagen, to name a few. The game will not include SUVs, and there won't be any Ferraris in it either."

I shudder to think what these ricer bastards will be doing to the Lamborghinis. I really hate the whole "Underground" thing they're doing. And don't listen to what EA spouts off about "going back to NFS's roots" on this game, either... "Most Wanted" is nothing more than NFS:Underground with cops.
 
Jedi2016
One of the previews on IGN said it:

"We learned there are at least 40 cars in NFS: Most Wanted, including models from Porsche (including the new Camen S), Mazda (RX8), Toyota, Chevy (Corvette), Ford (Mustang, GT), Lamborghini, Cadillac, BMW (GT4), and Volkswagen, to name a few. The game will not include SUVs, and there won't be any Ferraris in it either."

I shudder to think what these ricer bastards will be doing to the Lamborghinis. I really hate the whole "Underground" thing they're doing. And don't listen to what EA spouts off about "going back to NFS's roots" on this game, either... "Most Wanted" is nothing more than NFS:Underground with cops.
I hope to god you don't have to rice like in MC3.

After NFS:U1, all my cars went back to a respectable level.



Yeah, I will probably buy MW just to remember what's it like to race supercars on EA. :indiff:

I do like the idea of modding some of the sports cars, BUT only to recreating race cars of them, aka, C6, M3. etc.
The most I can see is rims....Unless they have actual body kits for the supercars like Kleeman and Hamann....
 
Sega has licensing with the Prancing Horse, do they? Why don't they make OutRun 2 for the PS2, if it's not as challenging to make it for the system? For quite a while, Electronic Arts (commonly called EA, of course) has been a so-so game company well known for EA Sports games. But it wasn't until the NFS series started getting popular. Now that EA is doing the divide-and-conquer deal, hardly anyone else can breathe. I think the reason we all look to EA is because they have the bigtime exotics in most of their games. Where else can you illegally race a McLaren F1 or a Porsche Carerra GT and have cops in these Chevrolet Impalas (the 1999-type ones) and Ford Crown Victorias trying to catch up with you?

PD has kept it real, like we say in pop culture 'hood terms. I think Gran Turismo games were about seeing the world. In GT1, I was barely getting into automobiles. I couldn't tell what was a Eunos Roadster or an DB7. The ones I really didn't know about were Aston Martin and TVR. GT2 was more of a learning process for me. By GT3, I was much more acquainted with automobiles, so all I had to do was know what a Gillet and a Tickford were about. GT4 featured so many auto companies and their cars young and old that I've never heard of (examples: Autobianchi, Lotus Carlton, just to name a few). That's why I think PD has a sense of just saying "it's okay, we can do without it." I'm not going to buy a Gran Turismo game because a certain car company is in the game. If Ferrari and Porsche in the next GT, it just means another GT game for me to get into. My perception isn't going to change because I could finally race cars I wouldn't need an XBOX or a rigged-out PC for.

Let me offer up my suggestions IF they are included. I personally love the roar of Ferraris at speed. My favorite ones are the 360 Modena and the 333SP. I know where you're going with this, but let me say it for you "John, if they include Ferrari, they had BETTER get their sounds right or I'm throwing my future PS3 out the window and await 'Forza Motorsport 2!'" Ferrari and Porsche should have One-Make series apiece. Make one with the Ferrari 360 Modena and make it a makeshift Ferrari Challenge. Or bring in the past cars used in Ferrari Challenge. Since most of my post was on Ferrari, you're going to have to await my commentary about Porsche. Stay tuned!
 
John, I agree. GT1 and GT2 were games that tought a lot about some manufacturers, GT2 introducing me to ones I'd never heard of such as Vector and Venturi.

I doubt we'll see Vector again unless an owner plans to loan his own to PD.
 
Now on to the Porsche material I want to mention. Porsche is one of the most well-known automakers in the world. They are makers of pure performance cars, and as their current slogan goes, "there is no substitute." And there really isn't with these automobiles. You talk about getting it done on the race track, nothing could be better than with these automobiles. Porsche may not be in the game, but Ruf has made three appearances in Gran Turismo games. I don't visualize a real Porsche when I see a Ruf, but then, I really wouldn't care to race one on the track. If I can find my old book on sports cars, I can look up a lot of Porsche's cars from the past.

Some of the big names would include the 911 Carerras, 996, 917, 962, 962 road car, the Le Mans GT2 racing Porsches, and what the hell- Cayenne. Porsche needs some One-Make series as well. Something like the Porsche Rennsport Reunion would be nice for these automobiles.

If Lamborghini was included, the Diablos would SURELY need to be included, even the Lamborghini Supertrophy Diablos. Murcielagos and Gallardos need be mentioned as well. The Countach and Miura are also nice additions. What I really would NOT want to see is that LM002 (I believe that's the name). That machine is Lambo's truck from back in the early 1990s. I don't know about One-Make Series too much. Haven't given it much thought.

I don't speak Italian, but it would be very interesting to have race series in the European Events devoted to Ferrari and Lamborghini. I know my first name in Italian ("Giancarlo," I believe), but not what I'd name the series. There should be two different series for lower-powered autos, then reserve a class for the bigtime Italian exotics. As far as Porsche goes, a Porsche Cup isn't a bad idea. To make it shine, there should really be a European super car series including, but not limited to, the big Ferraris, the Lamborghinis, the Jaguar XJ220, Porsche 911 GT1, Porsche Carerra GT, and all them. I hope you can dig my vibe here.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm after, too, John. I mean, I'll be buying GT5 regardless, of course, but I think adding these manufacturers would only make a great game even better. And who can say no to that?

You're right about the car-learning, though... GT has taught me quite a bit. Like you, I didn't know many of those names.. TVR, Lister, Venturi, to name a few. I knew Vector, actually.. I had seen one of the W12's in a magazine, and I was tickled pink to see one in the game. Granted, I still don't know a lot about Lister and Venturi and some of the other more obscure ones. But it gave me a love of cars in general, which has allowed me to learn even more through books and TV shows like "Top Gear". Didn't used to care, now I can't seem to get enough. I still find NASCAR rather boring, though, unless they're at a road course.
 
McLaren F1GTR
I mean, how many of YOU actually HEARD of Hommell before GT4? GT is known for bringing in new manufacturers many never heard of (ex. Vector, Venturi, etc.).
I had heard of Vector, Venturi, and Pagani before playing GT4 (I knew Vector from an issue of the DuPont Registry that I read many years ago, and Venturi and Pagani from a mag article about the 1999 Turin auto show).
 
the only companies i really hadnt heard of before gt4 was Cizeta and Proton(Korean company). that mid engined car they make is pretty awsome.
 
There hasn't been a single manufacturer in any GT game I hadn't heared of before exept for Tommy Kaira in GT2 which I got just after I left high school.
 
I dont like Ferrari and all those cars much, those cars are unoriginal. But if you think about it.....it would change gameplay VERY much.......starting grid:
TVR Tuscan Speed 6, Aston Martin DB9, Ferrari Modena, Lamborgini Diablo, Spyker Laviolette, Porsche Carrera......etc etc till you hopefully got a 22 car starting grid;)
 
McLaren F1GTR
Corvette (resembles the C6R actually)
That is the 505-hp new Corvette Z06, which posted the second-fastest lap time ever for a production car at the Nurburgring. It's fast. Very fast.

Anyway, since last-minute budget tightwadness was all that separated Ferraris from GT4, I think chances are good that we'll see Ferraris in GT5. (although I'd rather see a Bugatti Veyron myself)
 
Woolie Wool
That is the 505-hp new Corvette Z06, which posted the second-fastest lap time ever for a production car at the Nurburgring. It's fast. Very fast.
No it didn't, theres a few cars that have gone faster including the Donkervoort, Carrera GT and more, theres a few cars that could go faster but haven't been tested there as well like the MC12, Enzo, Zonda R ect.
 
G-T-4-Fan
I dont like Ferrari and all those cars much, those cars are unoriginal. But if you think about it.....it would change gameplay VERY much.......starting grid:
TVR Tuscan Speed 6, Aston Martin DB9, Ferrari Modena, Lamborgini Diablo, Spyker Laviolette, Porsche Carrera......etc etc till you hopefully got a 22 car starting grid;)
Screw that grid, check out my dream grid: (Lamborghini is absent because I don't think PD will ever get a Lamborghini license)

1. Ferrari F40 '91
2. V35 Skyline GT-R '07
3. Ferrari 550 Maranello '97
4. Chevrolet Corvette C6 '05
5. Aston Martin Vanquish '04
6. Vector M12 '97
7. TVR Sagaris '06
8. Spyker C8 Laviolette '04
9. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 '04
10. RUF CTR '87
11. Dodge Viper GTS '06
12. Pagani Zonda C12 '01
13. Saleen S351 '04
14. Dodge Viper GTS '06
15. Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG '03
16. Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500 '07
17. Hennessey Venom 650R '99
19. BMW M6 '05
20. Lingenfelter Corvette 427 '02
 
live4speed
No it didn't, theres a few cars that have gone faster including the Donkervoort, Carrera GT and more, theres a few cars that could go faster but haven't been tested there as well like the MC12, Enzo, Zonda R ect.
According to Motor Trend, the only car that has beaten the Z06 is the Carrera GT. And what the hell's a Donkervoort?
 
The Donkervoort DRS370 is the current fastest production car at the ring, the Radical was the fastest but the DRS beat it by 0.1 second, the Carrera GT is also faster and the Koenigsegg CCR ran faster and that only did 2 or 3 laps. Theres also the Mosler MT900 Photon that was quicker and the Mercedes McLaren SLR and probably a few more I can't think of right now. Motor trend it seems are very incorrect in this matter and you don't have to look hard to find out theres more than one production car that was faster. The Z06 was fast, don't get me wrong I wouldn't knock that car, but it's still nearly 24 seconds behind the DRS and almost 15 seconds behind the CGT, the CCR is expected to run the Ring in under 7'30 and in it's first handful of laps it did a 7'39.
Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the Z06, it's a good car but it's not in the elite segment with the likes of the CCR, Enzo, Speed 12 ect. Motor trend it seems didn't do their homework, in fact I'd say they said that deliberately because it's an American car. Any motor journo should know the Radical held the Ring record and the Carrera GT ran a storming lap at the very least.
 
It does count since it's a production car, just because it loos like a Lotus seven doesn't prevent it from being counted. Thats like Saying an Ruf wouldn't count cos it looks like a Porsche ect. The Radical is a very performance oriented car, the CGT you know about and the Mosler MT900 Photon I'm sure as well, the SLR was also quicker and the CCR. Do a google search for Radical SR3 Turbo, thats what held the record before the DRS beat it. Theres plenty of cars thast have ruin faster than the Z06.
 
Woolie Wool
Screw that grid, check out my dream grid: (Lamborghini is absent because I don't think PD will ever get a Lamborghini license)

1. Ferrari F40 '91
2. V35 Skyline GT-R '07
3. Ferrari 550 Maranello '97
4. Chevrolet Corvette C6 '05
5. Aston Martin Vanquish '04
6. Vector M12 '97
7. TVR Sagaris '06
8. Spyker C8 Laviolette '04
9. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 '04
10. RUF CTR '87
11. Dodge Viper GTS '06
12. Pagani Zonda C12 '01
13. Saleen S351 '04
14. Dodge Viper GTS '06
15. Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG '03
16. Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500 '07
17. Hennessey Venom 650R '99
19. BMW M6 '05
20. Lingenfelter Corvette 427 '02

But the trick is to evenly match the cars that are racing. That grid, seems it would end up between the F40 and the Zonda, possibly with the Vector following them around. Pretty much everything else would be about a minute behind them.
 
and why won't PD ever get a Lambo license woolie wool? It's the same situation as Ferrari and Porsche, they all were EA exclusive until late last year.
 
Jedi2016
But the trick is to evenly match the cars that are racing. That grid, seems it would end up between the F40 and the Zonda, possibly with the Vector following them around. Pretty much everything else would be about a minute behind them.
The Zonda would win, the F40 can't keep up with todays top supercars. Since it's GT though you could always match the grid by tuning cars that wouldn't normally compete, like say give the Sagaris an extra 150Bhp, now THAT woul be fast, or just use the Typhon stock.
 
Woolie Wool
That is the 505-hp new Corvette Z06, which posted the second-fastest lap time ever for a production car at the Nurburgring. It's fast. Very fast.

Anyway, since last-minute budget tightwadness was all that separated Ferraris from GT4, I think chances are good that we'll see Ferraris in GT5. (although I'd rather see a Bugatti Veyron myself)
Pleas explain to me how you know this is a Z06?
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360...d-for-speed-most-wanted-20050714003751116.jpg
 
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