Chevy Camaro SS '10 Challenge!
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- Langy69
Nice 👍 Not sure what setup you're on, but for me I was using a very quick shift 2nd to 3rd so adding retro's method meant a double tap at launch. You have to catch it on the upsweep and time it so the revs don't drop.
It took .005 off my time so Iexpectguess 9.283 is achievable:tup:
Mmmmm.... clams
Thanks for the info festOr, but my 2nd gear just bogs if I try to use 1st gear to launch. I don't know what i'm doing wrong and I don't fully understand what you mean either.
Do I need a full new retune? or can i just apply it to what i have?
Cheers mate.
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Thanks for the info festOr, but my 2nd gear just bogs if I try to use 1st gear to launch. I don't know what i'm doing wrong and I don't fully understand what you mean either.
Do I need a full new retune? or can i just apply it to what i have?
Cheers mate.
Basically you add in 1st to whatever you do normally. In my case I have a quick shift 2nd to 3rd so instead of a single shift right after launch there are two really quick shifts (double tap). If you have a normal 2nd to 3rd you would change from 1st to 2nd immediately after launch then carry on as normal. It's crucial to make the change towards the end of the rev sweep, but before it bounces of the limiter. I also have 1st and 2nd far left... don't know if it's needed though.
Even now it sounds like you're saying the only reason people are faster than you is because you play circuits more than drags and tune more cars than everyone else?
Anyway, you have far more important things to worry about than my bitc**ng 👍
Nevermind about that anymore
Epic time Maccer 👍 Need to have another look at it now
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- Langy69
Basically you add in 1st to whatever you do normally. In my case I have a quick shift 2nd to 3rd so instead of a single shift right after launch there are two really quick shifts (double tap). If you have a normal 2nd to 3rd you would change from 1st to 2nd immediately after launch then carry on as normal. It's crucial to make the change towards the end of the rev sweep, but before it bounces of the limiter. I also have 1st and 2nd far left... don't know if it's needed though.
Even now it sounds like you're saying the only reason people are faster than you is because you play circuits more than drags and tune more cars than everyone else?
Anyway, you have far more important things to worry about than my bitc**ng 👍
Epic time Maccer 👍 Need to have another look at it now
Nice, thanks festOr i just managed to beat my time 3rd go. I'm gonna need some practice. 9.285 atm.
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- mikeybc
Its werd how you all got 880bhp and 1113 kg and make tht , i got same but cant even reach 9.399
Now that you have your trans flipped and top speed at 190-195 with 7th wide open to the right try launching with second gear all the way left and 3rd gear close to second on the graph then kinda fan out the gears with the spaces gradually getting larger but evenly. Try different shift points by racing against your ghost, you'll immediately see whether or not a different shift point works better or makes it worse. Should be able to get low 9.3's
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Its werd how you all got 880bhp and 1113 kg and make tht , i got same but cant even reach 9.399
Your tune plays a huge role in the times you're able to achieve as well as you're driving. All cars have an optimal shift point to hit in order for the car to perform at its maximum potential. It's just a matter of understanding how the car reacts to the changes you make and which changes benefit that car most and then just driving it until you find the right combination of settings and the best shift points.
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Can I challenge you by helping me rech .350 ?
I can reward you with one car if you could like.
fyi - with my trans tune i start in 3rd/4th
I think you should try starting in 2nd and make sure you are getting some wheel spin 👍
The first thing I did with this car (and most others too) is set up an auto trans with plenty of spin at launch. I then setup the suspension using full throttle before load so I know exactly what works. I then swap the wheels and play with downforce etc. The last thing I tune is the trans. Only once did I notice a slightly different suspension setup was required with a manual trans, but this might have been an error on my part
I think it's quite a common way of tuning.
- 2,651
- Fayetteville/NC
Can I challenge you by helping me rech .350 ?
I can reward you with one car if you could like.
fyi - with my trans tune i start in 3rd/4th
You sould be launching from 2nd. You're losing a good bit of time from launching in 3rd.
Edit: tree'd lol. I pretty much tune my cars the way fest0r has described to you. I'd try that and see what you can come up with.
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I think Langy69 has bagged the win for this MP4 12C comp 👍, Unless fest0r or CheahBro or a wildcard that hasn't posted a time yet can beat it, I cant get lower than 9.284. managed to get a 0-60 of 2.412 and 0-100 in 4.185 
but 5th 6th and 7th were to spread apart so it slowed my time to a 9.286 .
I also wonder if keeping it at 1.17G's on launch is better than 1.19G's but the only way I used to be able to keep it at 1.17G's was by having soft front springs, but in doing that it slowed my time, and when I try soft front springs now I stay at 1.19G's and it still slows my time
but 5th 6th and 7th were to spread apart so it slowed my time to a 9.286 . I also wonder if keeping it at 1.17G's on launch is better than 1.19G's but the only way I used to be able to keep it at 1.17G's was by having soft front springs, but in doing that it slowed my time, and when I try soft front springs now I stay at 1.19G's and it still slows my time
- 2,651
- Fayetteville/NC
I think Langy69 has bagged the win for this MP4 12C comp 👍, Unless fest0r or CheahBro or a wildcard that hasn't posted a time yet can beat it, I cant get lower than 9.284. managed to get a 0-60 of 2.412 and 0-100 in 4.185
I also wonder if keeping it at 1.17G's on launch is better than 1.19G's but the only way I used to be able to keep it at 1.17G's was by having soft front springs, but in doing that it slowed my time, and when I try soft front springs now I stay at 1.19G's and it still slows my time
I had a little success with like 2 or 3kg of ballast when i first started to tune mine. It netted me .003 iirc and that was across the board (0-60, 0-100, and 1/4). I was pulling 1.21-1.22 g's with that. This was all while just working on my suspension. I found that anything more helped my 0-60 but hurt everything else.
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I've tried using ballast on this car at +50 position (fully to the rear), and even when using just 1kg it slowed my over all time, while still keeping my G's at 1.19. As you said it did improve my 0-60/100 times though, I didn't do alot of runs with it but I remember it slowed my 1/4 ET to around 9.286-9.289. Maybe if I retune my gears so that 6th and 7th are closer (as thats where it seems to slow me down) it might help, but just using it on my tune without adjustments to compensate for extra weight it didn't work for me.
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- Fayetteville/NC
It may be that it helped me because my tune is just that bad.
My 0-60 time is comparable to yalls but my 0-100 is a good bit slower as well as my 1/4. I still neet to redo my tranny and try what Nuke said for the top speed. Maybe I can then get at least into the 9.29s. I think I have my higher gears too close the way I have them set up now. I'll try again with and without ballast after I retune my tranny.
