Chinese SUV gets zero in NCAP Safety Test

[a6m5]

I'm sorry! This is the last time, I promise!

The original, one and only.

Japanese copy- I saw bunch of these in Yakima, WA, along with bunch more Japanese military goodys.

Chinese copy

Original's soooo much better.

 

[Omnis]

Huh?

 

[a6m5]

Actually, it looks more like a Passport than a Rodeo to me. The Rodeo probably comes to mind a lot faster, though. It did for me.

Wasn't Passport a Rodeo with Honda badges?

Huh?

They are Hummer copies, except the Japanese did it too.

 

[Omnis]

Only 2 pics, though. That's what I meant.

 

[a6m5]

Oops. Maybe I goofed. There's supposed to be three pictures. American Hummer, Japanese copy then the Chinese copy.

 

[Omnis]

Yeah. It's fixed now. I actually like the look of the Chinese hummer.

 

[a6m5]

Yeah. It's fixed now. I actually like the look of the Chinese hummer.

Is it the sexy Scion xB headlights?

 

[Emohawk]

Japanese copy- I saw bunch of these in Yakima, WA, along with bunch more Japanese military goodys.

Original's soooo much better.

BUT, the Mega Cruser has four wheel steering.
And the yellow bikini chick is an option on the GT model.

 

[G.T]

BUT, the Mega Cruser has four wheel steering.
And the yellow bikini chick is an option on the GT model.

I get a yellow bikini chick on me?

Edit: Still, those Hummers are bloody HUGE!

 

[niky]

Ahem... issues of copyright infringement aside, Chinese autos are still way behind in terms of technology. But then, they're competing in the Asian market, where Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota are still fielding vehicles with NO AIRBAGS, NO ABS and NO CRASH CELL.

Mitsubishi still sells a van here that wouldn't even pass 80's crash testing. It's got about zilch in terms of structural protection in front of the driver. I've seen lots of guys die in these. And everyone else sells the same formula, rear wheel drive, drum brakes, no safety equipment, driver sitting IN FRONT of the engine.

That's not to mention AUVs (Asian Utility Vehicles). These are just a bit better, because the engine is in front of the driver, but again, no ABS, no airbags, undeveloped crumple zones, and the handling of a Mack truck on kiddie cart tires. Scary piece of **** to drive around... we've got one in the garage.

The Chinese can make better vehicles, but they're probably going to use these to build up volume in the Asian sector first, before going out to conquer the rest of the world.

 

[Omnis]

Yeah right. I'd be safer on the autobahn riding a beijing bicycle.

I hope the chinese stay on their bikes for this one. It'd be a shame to lose so much oil to such a piece of crap.

 

[Joey D]

So what it failed the crash test. It's China! How many times do you get something that says made it China and it holds together? Not very often, since China can have quantity but sadly not quality.

Anyways, it does look like an Isuzu. Another intresting note is that that Blazer is for sale in China and its funny because it has like a 3.0L V6 in it and is considered a luxery SUV.

*I was wrong on the engine size

** Wrong again, for 2005 they introduced the 4.3L V6 over in China. Damn it...I WAS WRONG TWICE IN ONE POST.

 

[Sctn2labor]

Like the man said, the Chinese are habitual copycats. Chinese knockoffs are known for having the look of the original and a performance matching their low-low price. Well what do you expect? We've all seen what happens in the West when you don't toe the political line: You're marginalized. In China, you're dead. It's a strong argument against doing anything that hasn't been done before. Which is sad, because it doesn't take a hell of a lot to design a structurally sound vehicle. Or house. Or ship. Or anything.

 

[Joey D]

I'm guessing you don't know how vehicles are designed if you think it is easy to make a structurally sound one.

 

[benzoboy]

"Well, geez, if your crazy enough to be doing 40mph in the first place, obviously you deserve to die!"

The speed limit on my road is 40MPH

 

[a6m5]

Ahem... issues of copyright infringement aside, Chinese autos are still way behind in terms of technology. But then, they're competing in the Asian market, where Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota are still fielding vehicles with NO AIRBAGS, NO ABS and NO CRASH CELL.

Mitsubishi still sells a van here that wouldn't even pass 80's crash testing. It's got about zilch in terms of structural protection in front of the driver. I've seen lots of guys die in these. And everyone else sells the same formula, rear wheel drive, drum brakes, no safety equipment, driver sitting IN FRONT of the engine.

That's not to mention AUVs (Asian Utility Vehicles). These are just a bit better, because the engine is in front of the driver, but again, no ABS, no airbags, undeveloped crumple zones, and the handling of a Mack truck on kiddie cart tires. Scary piece of **** to drive around... we've got one in the garage.

The Chinese can make better vehicles, but they're probably going to use these to build up volume in the Asian sector first, before going out to conquer the rest of the world.

Sorry about the off-topicness, niky. I had no idea of the auto safety standard in Asian countries. Also, good analysis on the Chinese companie's strategy. It makes good sense to me. Accumulate funds by selling this crap now, then use it to develope(or buy) more up to date facilities and designs.

 

[TsLeng]

Ahem... issues of copyright infringement aside, Chinese autos are still way behind in terms of technology. But then, they're competing in the Asian market, where Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota are still fielding vehicles with NO AIRBAGS, NO ABS and NO CRASH CELL.

Mitsubishi still sells a van here that wouldn't even pass 80's crash testing. It's got about zilch in terms of structural protection in front of the driver. I've seen lots of guys die in these. And everyone else sells the same formula, rear wheel drive, drum brakes, no safety equipment, driver sitting IN FRONT of the engine.

That's not to mention AUVs (Asian Utility Vehicles). These are just a bit better, because the engine is in front of the driver, but again, no ABS, no airbags, undeveloped crumple zones, and the handling of a Mack truck on kiddie cart tires. Scary piece of **** to drive around... we've got one in the garage.

The Chinese can make better vehicles, but they're probably going to use these to build up volume in the Asian sector first, before going out to conquer the rest of the world.

Haha....I know too, cause Im in Malaysia.

Over here in ASEAN, we have those 'specials' like toyota vios, honda city, and the AUVs like toyota innova(kijang in indonesia and also sold in india), toyota avanza......

All these are strictly as basic transportation only(except the vios and city which has a little safety and tech in them)

 

[F1GTR]

I totally agree with Niky's post. Some of the cars in the 'pines are well, shoddily built. In fact my dad has a Starex, the brakes went out, he had to use the handbrake FOR THE WHOLE JOURNEY.

BTW Niky, what do you think of the new Toyota Hilux over there?

 

[300zxfairman]

Looks like he's gonna have a headache after that one.

 

[niky]

The Hilux pickup (3.0 diesel or 2.7 V6 gas) is a pretty good vehicle. ABS is no issue, if you've got a pickup, you shouldn't be driving that fast anyway. Then new Innova, which is based on the Hilux platform, is a more interesting one. Better crash safety than the regular Asian AUV "vans", and it could probably pass crash regs in the US and Europe if they'd put Airbags and ABS in it. At least it has car-like handling, which means you have less chances of crashing.

The Toyota Vios nee Echo Sedan is a great little car that meets crash regulations in the US. And it looks a HELL of a LOT BETTER than the North American market Echo.

Only problem is, there was an accident a few months ago where some hapless idiot drove his car over a center island and flipped it. As he was crawling out, it burst into flames. I don't know about you, but I'm personally wary of any modern automobile that bursts into flames as soon as it goes upside down.

The Honda City / Jazz is a great little car. And should be safe as the dickens since its been crash tested against 1.5 ton sedans (and it's eaten them alive).

For those interested in the complete and total nadir in crash safety... look up "jeepney".

 

[Seanman]

And to think I drove one a Chinese Jeep once...

 

[Omnis]

LOL. Those jeepneys look hilarious. Even if they're unsafe, do they not cause a lot of destruction to the other car? It looks like a frickin' tank.

 

[JCE]

Also, good analysis on the Chinese companie's strategy. It makes good sense to me. Accumulate funds by selling this crap now, then use it to develope(or buy) more up to date facilities and designs.

Sweet human guinea pig testing. 👍

 

[a6m5]

Sweet human guinea pig testing. 👍

You know, I just realized that I sounded like I was supporting it. Just for the record, I don't condone any of it, and I hope nobody would buy those cars.

 

[NSX-R]

They're gonna be laughed out of the US market, all of them.

Stupid Chinese brands.

As an uninformed person, you make very bad comments.

The chinese have no intension whatsoever on invading US with their own brands.

By the way, they are not "stupid", if anything, most of them are smarter than you are.

 

[a6m5]

As an uninformed person, you make very bad comments.

The chinese have no intension whatsoever on invading US with their own brands.

By the way, they are not "stupid", if anything, most of them are smarter than you are.

M5Power isn't being racist, or making comments on Chinese people. He's criticizing Chinese brands. Also, I think he works for Nissan, though he doesn't like them either(figure that one out!).

 

[eliseracer]

In fact my dad has a Starex, the brakes went out, he had to use the handbrake FOR THE WHOLE JOURNEY.

My dad had to do that for an entire day in a Ford Taurus. That's right, built in Kansas.

 

[NSX-R]

M5Power isn't being racist, or making comments on Chinese people. He's criticizing Chinese brands. Also, I think he works for Nissan, though he doesn't like them either(figure that one out!).

I know he's referring to the "brands", and I'm not saying he's a racist.

What I'm saying is the "brands" are little too smart, they are taking advantage of the lack of chinese regulation, and saving money for investment on these safety features by buying, or stealing old Japanse or Korean models. Also, not very big portion of the chinese population are informed about automotive field.

And don't say I don't know, I'm Chinese myself.

 

[Purple Platypus]

I was in China for a goodly time over the summer....

The chinese cars all looked kinda funny. They had lots of those little microbuses, a bunch of "Shanghai GM" things that I don't know what to say about, then a bunch of other little cars that seemed pretty funny lookin. But....the most prevalent cars in China have got to be Passats and A6's. Then all the taxis are new Sonatas, old Citroens, and new/old Jettas. As for copying things, there arent too many real Chinese brands. But they all looked like pretty generic cars to me...

Then there's the fact that China seems to get smaller engines on everything. The MB SLs are 320s instead of 500s and the SLKs are 230s instead of 350s (ya, the new body style).

As for how fast people drive, most all the people will hardly ever get up to or over 100 kph. But then there was that last taxi ride on the way to the airport where the guy got up to 120. That felt kinda weird after a month of being driven slowly and not driving myself...

But then, there really arent that many accidents in China. The only few that I did see were really minor fender benders. Then there was that one where a bus broke down in an intersection and started billowing smoke....

 

[a6m5]

I know he's referring to the "brands", and I'm not saying he's a racist.

What I'm saying is the "brands" are little too smart, they are taking advantage of the lack of chinese regulation, and saving money for investment on these safety features by buying, or stealing old Japanse or Korean models. Also, not very big portion of the chinese population are informed about automotive field.

Alright, sorry about that. But if what you say about Chinese auto maker's correct, I agree with M5Power, Stupid Chinese brands!. Perhaps, what we have here is a misunderstanding? When he called them "stupid" I think he was just insulting them, not stating their intelligence level.

The chinese have no intension whatsoever on invading US with their own brands.

They should. If they don't have that kind of ambition, I don't think they'd get too far.