Civic 3000hp should be banned?
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- IvanOffalich
Funny you two are the only ones arguing?All while trying to talk crap about someone YOU DON'T KNOW..
Oh were up 10 hybrids now, enjoy.
Interesting. Please point out where I supposedly talked crap about anyone.
I stated facts about the word and its proper usage. Plain and simple.
Where is this crap talking that you're accusing me of doing?
Yeah, I thought so. Pay attention next time.
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- IvanOffalich
Pointing out an error and giving correct information in its place is not arguing.
It seems that you're the only one wishing to start trouble in this thread. I'm done. You can not listen all by yourself now.
It seems that you're the only one wishing to start trouble in this thread. I'm done. You can not listen all by yourself now.
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HanibalII
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Never, in my years of working with computers, have I heard the term 'cracker'. You pulled that out of your.....I'm starting to think you have no clue how this works, and are just saying whatever pops into your head. Any hack is a deliberate and malicious act in order to gain access to something that was 'locked' away for a reason. There is no justifying it by saying it was for 'fun or experimentation'. That justification could be used in other ways too. 'Oh I only wanted to hack that persons bank for experimental purposes'.
I agree with others in this thread saying those that did this should be banned. If PD wanted it's users to have 3000bhp civics/or other such 'hybrid' cars, they would've included them in the game.
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- PumpinNumbies
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- PumpinNumbies
Here in America, cracker is far more often used as a racial slur towards white people.
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That's far less amusing than a painfully bad joke and a hat that tears apart if you so much as breathe near it.
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- Johnnypenso
Or a soda biscuit...
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The Hybrids are OK, if you don't like them join server with pp or bhp restrictions. The problem with these hybrids are that they are not realistic 3000bhp. If you want to Crack the cars in the game crack a fiat 500f 68 and give it 150-200 bhp don't crack a ricer civic.
On another note Crackers and Hackers are different if you did not already know.
A cracker is someone who breaks into someone else's computer sstem, often on a network; bypasses passwords or licenses in computer programs; or in other ways intentionally breaches computer security. A cracker can be doing this for profit, maliciously, for some altruistic purpose or cause, or because the challenge is there. Some breaking-and-entering has been done ostensibly to point out weaknesses in a site's security system.
A Hacker is similar but instead of breaking in to the system intentionally for profit, maliciously, or for some altruistic purpose, they are usually security experts, who are paid by major organisations to find security flaws with said product or system.
On another note Crackers and Hackers are different if you did not already know.
A cracker is someone who breaks into someone else's computer sstem, often on a network; bypasses passwords or licenses in computer programs; or in other ways intentionally breaches computer security. A cracker can be doing this for profit, maliciously, for some altruistic purpose or cause, or because the challenge is there. Some breaking-and-entering has been done ostensibly to point out weaknesses in a site's security system.
A Hacker is similar but instead of breaking in to the system intentionally for profit, maliciously, or for some altruistic purpose, they are usually security experts, who are paid by major organisations to find security flaws with said product or system.
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Yeah totally agree, the 3000hp Civic are what a lot of people use these days..-.-' Can't believe PD still let the 3000hp lurk around online.
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- wat3rm370n
I disagree with the idea that the best thing to do is to keep a cheat a secret...
If your hope is to make it useless, the best thing to do is allow everyone to have it. 💡
If everyone had them, they would not cause some people to have an unfair advantage.
If that's the complaint that people have about their usage, that is.
That said, cheaty hacks in video games are kind of juvenile (which I guess is okay if you're a kid), and I have no interest in them, as my entire interest in GT5 is you know, to race cars based on real cars.
And if you're like me, and you stick to organized races, racing with friends, or in pub lobbies that use rational restrictions provided by the game settings, then I think this shouldn't be a problem for most people trying to have a good time racing in GT5 online.
If your hope is to make it useless, the best thing to do is allow everyone to have it. 💡
If everyone had them, they would not cause some people to have an unfair advantage.
If that's the complaint that people have about their usage, that is.
That said, cheaty hacks in video games are kind of juvenile (which I guess is okay if you're a kid), and I have no interest in them, as my entire interest in GT5 is you know, to race cars based on real cars.
And if you're like me, and you stick to organized races, racing with friends, or in pub lobbies that use rational restrictions provided by the game settings, then I think this shouldn't be a problem for most people trying to have a good time racing in GT5 online.
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If PD would make DLC or release the hidden mods most people wouldn't have an interest in these hybrid cars. The game is getting boring and is dying quickly. Anything to stimulate a renewed interest in the game is a good thing.
These hybrids have a purpose. Do a little reading and you will figure out what that purpose is.
These hybrids have a purpose. Do a little reading and you will figure out what that purpose is.
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- wat3rm370n
Maybe I'm just old or something. But when someone says "hybrid car" - I'm thinking Toyota Prius or Honda Insight. Which are actual cars available in the game. 
Seems to me this whole cheat has a flaw in its terminology.
Among gamer types?
If so, good. Let them do something else.
But to say the game is dying quickly... That's like saying nobody will play chess anymore, because gosh, that's an old game.
The only replacement I see, is another gran turismo. Not hacking the crap out of the current one.
Defeats the purpose, at least for me.
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Also, usually online games go to the dogs because they are overrun with cheaters using hacks.
The only way that can happen with gt5 is if all of the following were to happen:
- a way to override regulation settings in online lobbies
- no way to race privately with friends only
- no way to kick unwanted racers out of your lobby/lounge
Seems to me this whole cheat has a flaw in its terminology.
Among gamer types?
If so, good. Let them do something else.
But to say the game is dying quickly... That's like saying nobody will play chess anymore, because gosh, that's an old game.
The only replacement I see, is another gran turismo. Not hacking the crap out of the current one.
Defeats the purpose, at least for me.
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Also, usually online games go to the dogs because they are overrun with cheaters using hacks.
The only way that can happen with gt5 is if all of the following were to happen:
- a way to override regulation settings in online lobbies
- no way to race privately with friends only
- no way to kick unwanted racers out of your lobby/lounge
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mrptp1973
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Ultimately folks it is a matter of choice, there are controls within the game to place restrictions therefore it shouldn't be such an issue.
I share both playnthru's and outeke's view, and since it is just a bit of fun it does need not be detrimental to others...just put a restriction on.
I share both playnthru's and outeke's view, and since it is just a bit of fun it does need not be detrimental to others...just put a restriction on.
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You cherry picked one sentence out of my paragraph. Try reading the entire thing next time to put the sentence into context.Among gamer types?
If so, good. Let them do something else.
But to say the game is dying quickly... That's like saying nobody will play chess anymore, because gosh, that's an old game.
The only replacement I see, is another gran turismo. Not hacking the crap out of the current one.
Defeats the purpose, at least for me.
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Also, usually online games go to the dogs because they are overrun with cheaters using hacks.
The only way that can happen with gt5 is if all of the following were to happen:
- a way to override regulation settings in online lobbies
- no way to race privately with friends only
- no way to kick unwanted racers out of your lobby/lounge
More and more people are playing other games instead of GT5. The game has fallen short on expectations. The patches we do get are buggy and/or reverse changes they've made previously. PD either doesn't fully test the game and patches or there is a major communication breakdown between the programmers and testers.
How much longer will the online servers be up with the PS4 release around the corner? Do you think the game will hold your interest with no online racing, Seasonal events and an predictable AI?
The fact that so many people want to try these cars should tell you and PD something. A 3000hp civic is generating as much or more interest than a new stock Corvette that can not be modded.
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Apologises for cherry picking, I'm sure the rest of what you said gave greater context to your overall position, but I am only curious in discussing this point, as vaguely related to the OP as it is.
Do you seriously believe that in say... 12 months, GT5's online facility will just shut down (making the 3043bhp Civic unobtainable other than local hacking)?
Why? We won't have a GT6 until at least 2015, maybe 2016, if GT6 came out in 2014, it'd be enough to make you believe in god *cough* if it were good enough *cough*
Why wouldn't PD be smart enough to... hmm, ok there are plenty of things to doubt about them, but its not impossible that they have 2-3 people maintaining the online config scripts, coming up with new seasonals to generate, occassionally throwing GT5 a lower res version of a car they just scanned for GT6, ect, make some more cash from the existing game in order to reduce/cover costs of development for the new game.
I really really would love a 3000bhp Civic, can't the genius who invented it just share his or her magic with the world?
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- wat3rm370n
@ bs13
You're pulling predictions out of your butt, and then claiming to know how people will react if these various things were true.
Like 2 years from now.
It's hardly relevant.
I don't think you understand the proper usage of "cherry picking".
You said the game is dying fast.
Does the rest of what you say, somehow make it clear that's not what you meant?
If so you should explain yourself better.
It sounds to me like YOU are bored with the game, and are cherry picking possible predictions that would support your attitude. Like "not being able to play online" - which is not true, (and not likely to be true for a long time yet).
I think perhaps you belong in this thread:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274655
But it got locked - WITH GOOD REASON.
You're pulling predictions out of your butt, and then claiming to know how people will react if these various things were true.
Like 2 years from now.
It's hardly relevant.
I don't think you understand the proper usage of "cherry picking".
You said the game is dying fast.
Does the rest of what you say, somehow make it clear that's not what you meant?
If so you should explain yourself better.
It sounds to me like YOU are bored with the game, and are cherry picking possible predictions that would support your attitude. Like "not being able to play online" - which is not true, (and not likely to be true for a long time yet).
I think perhaps you belong in this thread:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274655
But it got locked - WITH GOOD REASON.
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Sounds that way to me too
Just an addition to the Cracker/Hacker etymology thing. Computer cracker is derived from the old trade of safe cracker.
EDIT: Just found out that there is a freeware moddability option that doesn't involve jailbreaking - so I retract the above bit...
But if they want to do that...their choice. As has been said, choices exist to block them from any lobbies.
Did the OP return to discuss? No...
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does any 1 have this civic, i really want to trade something for it
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- Johnnypenso
How do you run a PP limited room, the most common real racing type of room in GT5 for 2 years, when the PP of the X1 with 1Billion HP is negative? How do you stop trolls from jumping into an X1 with 20 seconds left in the countdown?. Oh yeah, the host can quit and kick them. Who is going to want to host if you can't race because you're constantly kicking guys in X1's?
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon, or maybe it does, to see that unless this hack is fixed, it's the kiss of death for GT5 online, and jeopardizes the whole GT franchise if it's not addressed.
@ bs13
You're pulling predictions out of your butt, ....snip...https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274655
But it got locked - WITH GOOD REASON.
Dude you picked the wrong person to mess with...lol..
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- wat3rm370n
Is it true that PP restrictions can't keep out cars like this 3000hp Civic car?
If so, that is a problem for those who race in PP restricted public lobbies with strangers. And in that case I can easily see how one cheater griefer acting like a clown can waste the time of people just trying to enjoy themselves with more proper type of racing.
That said, there's griefers of all stripes that plague any type of room, of course.
Dude you picked the wrong person to mess with...lol..
JP you can't be calling me dude?
You should know better than that? ha ha ha ha ha haRE: etymology
The last refuge of those who can't argue without employing logical fallacies.
Linguistics is a nice little thing to use for straw men. But anyone with a bit of education or even common sense, recognizes that for what it is.
The topic at hand is obviously a cheat, whatever the specific mechanism for it.
- No probably many people don't use it as a cheat, maybe they're just horsing around with their friends or alone with a kooky kluged game exploit.
- Yes, a lot of silly juvenile gamers don't see the point in playing games by the rules - they just care about making a spectacle of themselves to feel important.
I think people mistakenly assume x causes y, when there is no actual logical correlation obvious or evident, let alone evidence that it's causally related.
For example, someone may assume that a game being "out awhile", "older", or "people getting bored", leads to people coming up with exploits & cheats.
When think of it... Isn't a very likely possibility that it just takes a little while for enough of the griefers, hackers, crackers, cheaters, call them what you will - to figure out ways to make cheats & exploit the game.
And isn't it likely that games become boring because of cheats that make them easy?
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I think it's more likely that games become boring because they are actually in fact boring.
Not everyone finds chasing rabbits engaging....
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- Johnnypenso
Is it true that PP restrictions can't keep out cars like this 3000hp Civic car?
JP you can't be calling me dude?
No you can keep them out now, but my point is, they've already found ways to hack cars, they'll eventually find ways to mess with how the PP shows up and maybe everything else too and no matter how many tools PD gives you to restrict rooms, they'll find a way around it if they really want to.
And of course I wasn't calling you dude, you're the one the "dude" shouldn't mess with!!!
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