paskowitzWhat kind of monster is that?
tribolikThe butt ugly kind...![]()
Uh Vince...stay with us now.
But Tribolik....that's an actual master cylinder. Maybe JLo's butt.
Niexist, that's nice. Have you tried them out ? What do they call that cylinder ? Looks like a compression spring under that rubber boot/dust cover. From the looks of it, first the spring offers resistance then the cylinder quickly bottoms out and pressure builds. Load cell ?
Scotty
This is what hydraulic clubsport pedals look like
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In the real world do you think 12bit is going to be absolutely noticeable ? Because marketing wise it's apparently a home run, doesn't mean it's a home run performance wise. I do agree it's better but skeptical that it's meaningfully better.
Scotty
If I recall aren't these made from version 1 pedals and the guy bent the new pedal brackets with a Brake? Ordered up the parts and away he went. This was a lot of work but it shows it can be done.
Our industrial designer just got a heart attack after watching this.
But i get you. If you want even more than we can do that. It will just take some time but there is no problem to add some fancy components and sell it more expensive. This is actually much easier than having a tight cost budget to keep and if there is a market, why not?
The load cell itself is no different than the old version.....Thomas stated they revised the stiffness and travel of it. Both of those can be tweaked on the V1s if you have the tuning kit which comes with stiffer foam and a longer rod that go inside the cell block.
Also of note is they've changed the default mounting location of the pivot point for the brake on the V2. On the V1 the pivot rod was installed by default in the lowest hole on the brake pedal arm. On the V2 it's mounted in the second hole up from the lowest point. Many people (myself included) did this tweak themselves on their V1s.....it reduces the pedal travel quite a bit and gives the brake pedal a better feel.
Hi Left.
that pedal mod is actually an excellent idea.
i can see that at the point the picture was taken they were not functional yet.
he used a clutch master cylinder with it`s associated pull type clutch slave cylinder.
at one end of the slave he added several rubber cushions from a schock absorber to help produce the effect of resistance when pressing on the pedal.
in the picture he has not made a connection with a load cell yet but would be fairly simple to do.
the parts he used are from a company called Wilwood.
i often use parts from this company and have them in my inventory.
i think i will apply this mod in my spare time.
this would without a doubt add more realism.
the parts would cost below 200.00 dollars.
here is a link to the parts he used.
http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinders/MasterCylinderList.aspx?minorname=Slave Cylinder
I have already done both of these to my CSPs V.1s and purchased the tuning kit. So the question is was the arm travel decreased and stiffness increased by just changing the default pedal arm mounting point? Or were the metal rod, and foam slug used for the brake replaced by units similar to those bundled with the V.1 tuning kit?
The CSP V.2's Point 2. intro statement; We also made the load cell brake stiffer and with a shorter travel by default. appears to be nothing more than a clever advertising ploy to sell V.1 owners something that they may have already done and/or purchased.
Going back and visiting CSP V.2 Intro point 3., I am curious to why the Japanese modder only received credit for the clutch modification. He also did the brake mod, and the prototype he received from Thomas back in September of last year depicted on his blog at http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/26357470.html clearly shows his RC-Car shock absorber (hydraulic) mod on the prototype, although the production model's shock absorber depicted in the intro here is now attired in black and silver.
So where is the German Engineering on the CSP V.2? Looks to me like CSP V.1 German Engineering adorned with Japanese Refinements, and clad in fashionable black, oh and lest I forget, now with a hydraulic brake with a re-positioned brake arm.