Cobra's '04 Mach 1 Mustang
- Thread starter SVT Cobra GT
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- UK
- marunda/GTP_FordMKIVJ5
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- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
That depends who you talk to. I'd rip it out the minute I got it home.
- 2,364
- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
I would assume because it is one of the most desirable of the Capri's?
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- UK
- marunda/GTP_FordMKIVJ5
No it doesn't. It's logic, why would you drop the extra money on an injection when you could have a 1.6 Laser etc. for significantly less?
That's one reason, yes. They're not that common any more. The other (main reason) is like I said, you wouldn't spend extra to get a 2.8i if you were planning to rip the engine straight out.
- 2,364
- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
No it doesn't. It's logic, why would you drop the extra money on an injection when you could have a 1.6 Laser etc. for significantly less?
That's one reason, yes. They're not that common any more. The other (main reason) is like I said, you wouldn't spend extra to get a 2.8i if you were planning to rip the engine straight out.
Very true but people do crazy stuff. We have a local guy who made a Super Street Outlaw drag car out of a rare and expensive Saleen SSC Mustang when he could have started with a 2.3 base model.
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- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
If you want to talk money, I could get a screamer 302 in there for 1/4 to half of what the entire cost of the vehicle and walk all over whatever these had stock. More like run all over. If I put less than $1,500 into the engine after swapping it in, I can bet it would rape the car with the same about of money dumped into the 2.8L. Even a stock Mustang II smog era pile of poop 302 dropped into this car would smoke against the car with the best engine you can get in this in stock form of course. Like I said before, past experiences with the Cologne V6's did not favor with me. Even if I didn't put a V8 in it, it at least would get an Inline 6 of some sort, likely with a 4 barrel conversion and headers.
I get what you are saying about dropping more money on them, but at least here, sometimes the only ones available are ones with different engines. Sure you can get one with a 1.6L for cheaper, but sometimes the only cars available come with the bigger engine.
That said, I understand why someone wouldn't want a V8 as well, for obvious fuel economy reasons, or maybe wanting to stay original to the car but the hot-rodder in me says otherwise and I like interesting quirks like this.
Very true but people do crazy stuff. We have a local guy who made a Super Street Outlaw drag car out of a rare and expensive Saleen SSC Mustang when he could have started with a 2.3 base model.
Exactly this. You can start with anything. If I wanted a big bad truck I could start with a pile of junk beater with a puky V6 in it. Or you can start with an already V8 equipped and stronger part equipped truck.
Same thing for any vehicle really.
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- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
Yeah the point is why start with the expensive one when you can start with a cheaper model and get the same end result. I personally think the Saleen SSC guy is foolish since a rare expensive car got cut up. Hell in my own case I should have just got a Mustang GT and saved money instead of going for the Cobra.
For the other point of going V8 in the Capri it probably isn't cheaper to swap the motor for performance in the UK like it is here. I know a few mustang folks in Europe that complain about the price of getting parts over there.
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- marunda/GTP_FordMKIVJ5
The bold bit is the only bit that bears any relation to my post so I'll just answer that by saying that there is no lack of 1.6 Lasers floating around for around £1500. A decent 2.8i is at least £3, but mint ones can go up to around £10k.
Oh, and what @Badasp5.0 said, building a 302 over here isn't exactly cheap or practical. A Rover V8 is the easiest route.
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- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
I think that's the big thing; where you live. Parts are cheap and plentiful here. It's also a big reason why people do said swaps. They sound good, they are easy to do and they are a cheap way to go fast.
I thought you were talking about money with performance as well.
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- GTP_Paulie
- Paulie LDP
Nice Capri, I used to work with a guy that once owned a Capri RS3100. Told me it was woefully unreliable but still a reasonable car for the day. Then there was the South African Capri Perana V8 model, Andrew Miedecke drives one here in Australia in Targa rallies, nice car.
- 4,487
- YorkshireLand
- SVTlover
Bit of an update for you guys;
Spent the last two weekends swapping things over, I've now got my wheels, steering wheel, furry dice, bluetooth/radio installed. Just need to install the loud hoooga horn and then send it to my mechanic for 'a good shifty' then I'll be done.
As of now the S is up for sale.
But to cheer me up I took the injection out for a little spin and it put a huge smile on my face. I stopped to take a couple of photos which I will upload at lunchtime.
Spent the last two weekends swapping things over, I've now got my wheels, steering wheel, furry dice, bluetooth/radio installed. Just need to install the loud hoooga horn and then send it to my mechanic for 'a good shifty' then I'll be done.
As of now the S is up for sale.
But to cheer me up I took the injection out for a little spin and it put a huge smile on my face. I stopped to take a couple of photos which I will upload at lunchtime.
- 4,487
- YorkshireLand
- SVTlover
So here's the photos as promised;
Visibly lower than the S.
Stopped for a photo.
Visibly lower than the S.
Stopped for a photo.
- 4,487
- YorkshireLand
- SVTlover
- 5,303
- Riverside, Ca
- GTP_Leonidae_MFT
It's a LOT lighter car than the Bronco, hence why the V6 has plenty of power for his needs. Also, it's UK where it nearly always rains, so V8 power would be pointless if not even hazardous. 
Nice car.
Nice car.
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- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
It's a LOT lighter car than the Bronco, hence why the V6 has plenty of power for his needs. Also, it's UK where it nearly always rains, so V8 power would be pointless if not even hazardous.
That's a fair point. My Bronco was a pile of poop anyways haha.
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- Great White North
Nice car. How about a v8 swap.
- 3,835
- Leiria
Nice car. How about a v8 swap.
It's a LOT lighter car than the Bronco, hence why the V6 has plenty of power for his needs. Also, it's UK where it nearly always rains, so V8 power would be pointless if not even hazardous.
Here is why. Plus a small discussion in the first an second page about it
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Wheels look ace. Though I do like the pepperpots on the white car too.
What steering wheel have you plonked in it? Always think that deciding on one that looks truly good in something like this is a struggle. Only ones I can think of off the top of my head that'd work are a 1970s Ford RS three-spoke, or the default Momo Prototipo which looks good in pretty much anything made before 1990.
What steering wheel have you plonked in it? Always think that deciding on one that looks truly good in something like this is a struggle. Only ones I can think of off the top of my head that'd work are a 1970s Ford RS three-spoke, or the default Momo Prototipo which looks good in pretty much anything made before 1990.
- 34,949
- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
I'm surprised its not one of the Ford 2 points seen on almost everything made in the US back then.
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- United Kingdom
Yeah, those were pretty nasty wheels, but luckily we got a slightly better three-spoke wheel as standard:
The RS wheel I mentioned is this one:
And this is a Capri with the Momo Prototipo:
I've seen a lot of Capris with really nasty aftermarket wheels in though. Steering wheels are one of those things people get very, very wrong.
Edit: Hey, @SVT Cobra GT, this looks familiar
If I'd not just bought a car myself I'd be quite tempted!
