I'm always run E100 rooms you've been invited to join multiple times if you'd be running on playstation.
I do 'not' care if you have to leave as this is not a teamgame. But I prefer people to stay. Giving out penalties is by far the best way to enforce rules on an online comunity.
I've also admitted that we could have a system that gives some room for people like you with kids in which you can leave a race once every so many races. I think it settled on once every 5 races but I'm open to hear your prefference on once every how many races.
We get bans and warnings on an online forum we don't reward the nice people...
My opinion is not gross and selfish... That would be the world upside down... I'd prefer common sense and politeness to be the norm you know you start a game with people you finish it. Isn't it selfish to consider your personal time more worth then the game you yourself descided to join?
Honnest question because I do not encounter that problem are there this few races that have a lower then 1400 rating?
Could you also stop misrepresenting me? I understand your issue but the system does exactly what it's supposed to do. Put the ones who do have time for a full race together and those who don't...
The thing is there are solution to your issue. An 'issue' created by your PERSONAL experience... And sms should adres this, while there are ways to work around it?
Have you considered adding those people in those rooms as friends? In no time you'll have plenty of friends to race with without having to care about your elo-rating.
I was a dungeonleader and no my group wouldn't get screamed at for thing like bathroombreaks.
My group did have the manners to say they are going to the toilet next chance they had. This made it possible to wait for him/her to be back. No timers, no ********, just mutual respect.
And yes kids limit your lobbyselection by half... How is that inherently bad? Everything has consequences and having kids has big consequences. Good and bad I agree it's not awesome but this way you'll end up playing with other people in your situation.
And no I would not kick someone for making a joke on gtp...
But 'ot everything is as clear in text as in speach and deliberzte ramming is no joke imo...
Again if on playstation still welcomz I don't force people to'do anything and you can leave the race anytime. Consequences beeing the elo-rating hit...
Sorry for the lang post and I hope you finally understand I do not think you shouldn't race or that you're just a whiner. Thing is you just want one solution. And that solution is to remove the system that enforces manners...
There are other solutions...
Going back to pcars1, lobby selection is not great in this game. You're at the mercy of the community if you want semi full grids, and "normal"-ish settings.
Doing a quick check of the lobbies, I saw 4 lobbies I could no longer join because of my rating. If I fall below 1300, it's going to go up even more.
Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from. Like I said, I've played MMOs where getting a group of people to commit an hour or two to accomplish a certain thing is like pulling teeth. I've participated in more online drift comps that I can count - if you don't know how that they work, you spend at least 3/4 of your time sitting there waiting. I've waited my turn for almost an hour, only to have my opponent back out at the last minute, a complete waste of my time. I've been part of race leagues where, ya, for longer races, there was times it was tough to get people to stay to the end of a race. Some people, we just knew that if they weren't in P1 by the end of lap 1, they would rage quit. So we came up with incentives to get people to stay - award points at halfway, award points for staying (we also dropped the two lowest scores from the championship table, giving everyone two mulligans in case something happened mid race). I've watched people here on GTP put countless hours into organizing all kinds of fantastic leaugues, series, tournaments, and the like, only to have less that 1/4 of the people who signed up actually show up.
I fully get the idea that if you sign up for a thing, you should see it through. That said, and I think you'll agree, real life always has to come first, you have to give people the benifit of the doubt there.
I guess I'm just inclined to have faith in people, that most who do join a lobby do so with intention to see it out to the finish. Obviously there will be some bad apples who "rage quit", but I don't like the idea that the actions of those bad apples force all of us to have to use this restrictive system.
At the end of the day the major issue is the size of the penalty for leaving or quitting. If it was reasonable, I don't think we'd need this discussion - although then you might argue that it's not harsh enough, and doesn't discourage rage quitting enough.
I guess my major thing is though, I kind of take what you're saying and flip it back to you. If you want to play the game on what could essentially be called "hard core mode", ie, you do longer length races, leaving or quitting has harsh penalties, etc., then add a bunch of friends who are looking for the same experience, create a league with a full championship, or join an existing league - there's lots of leagues and series running which have all kinds of incentive to finish races and "punishment" for quitting early.
However, for the open lobby, which consists mostly of "quick race" type lobbies, and is logically the more common place to find players who might be considered "casual", having those kind of penalties for leaving or quitting is too much. Especially when you put it in the context of it impacting which lobbies you can join.
I really hope this is fixed.... atleast the disconnect issue.
