Cop deserves a medal

In that case, you need to be in the 3rd or 2nd lane. Unless there's a semi hogging 2nd lane going twenty or thirty under, no reason to be out of that one, either.

To reiterate. Awfully dangerous for everyone else if you're blocking a lane that should be reserved for overtaking. So stay right.

If not for any other reason, at least for self-preservation.
 
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If you've seen a normal American freeway, every lane is used for over taking. :lol:

Plenty of lanes for speeders to pass other cars that can safely stay in the lane they choose to cruise in. 👍
 
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Left-lane hogging is infinitely more dangerous than going five or ten over.

When you sit in the passing lane when not passing, you are forcing other motorists to decide whether or not to pass you on the right side. It's not against the law for them to pass on the right, but it's dangerous.

When you pass another motorist on the left, it's easier for him to see you in his peripheral vision and/or mirror. The mirror is over there beside his left elbow, and it's easy to glance at it as you go down the road.

When you pass a motorist on the right, there's a whole number of problems. The motorist being passed needs to be watching his mirrors. Which means taking his eyes very far off the road and looking towards the side mirror on the right. The motorist passing needs to look into his side mirrors to check that another impatient motorist isn't pulling up on him trying to overtake on the right. And then to be doubly sure, he needs to turn his head nearly 100 degrees to check his blind spot.

Accidents on the highway always inevitably involve blind spots. A quick look at the statistics reveal about 840,000 vehicles damaged every year because of blind spot issues.

By creeping along in the left lane, you're putting the entire highway in your blind spot and the blind spot of any unfortunate sitting behind you waiting to overtake. And why? So you don't have to pull out to overtake slower cars, forcing other people to find creative (and dangerous) ways to overtake you, instead?

Don't be smug. Pull over. Let the speeders choose their own graves, and make sure they don't share it with you.

Couldn't agree with this more.
 
For the record, if it's an open freeway and I'm driving... Ain't no way in hell you'll catch me doing anything less than 10 over and there'll still be cars flying by. The unofficial speed limit in the suburban car pool lanes seems to be 80mph.

That's one thing I like about driving on California. Everyone is in a hurry, so if you're doing under 80mph, you're going too slow. And everyone (at least in my expierence after 9 days of driving San Diego and LA) seems to keep to themselves. Here in Texas, it seems to be the exact opposite. Either people drive waay too slowly (not the speed limit in a passing lane argument, I'm talking like 20 under for no apparent reason), or the drive waaay too aggressively and tailgate anything and everything with a rear bumper. Or they take offence to everything and road-rage like it's a competitive sport. There's no middle ground. That's how you know you are in Texas. After crossing back into Texas near the end of our trip, not three miles in, there was a large man in a Dodge duelly tailgating my friend's Jetta. Home, sweet home.:lol:
 
If you've seen a normal American freeway, every lane is used for over taking. :lol:

Plenty of lanes for speeders to pass other cars that can safely stay in the lane they choose to cruise in. 👍

Living up to the American stereotype

Me, me, me. Screw the rest.

Props.
 
Yeah, on a freeway.....any lane is a passing lane/fast lane/wreckfest.
On a 4+ lane highway, sure, that's typically the case. If you're traveling between states (or honestly, any 4 lane highway), you should know that you never drive in the left lane unless you are passing. If you're not passing someone, you sit in the right lane. Not to mention in those situations, it's also incredibly dangerous for upcoming drives in the left lane.
That's one thing I like about driving on California. Everyone is in a hurry, so if you're doing under 80mph, you're going too slow. And everyone (at least in my expierence after 9 days of driving San Diego and LA) seems to keep to themselves. Here in Texas, it seems to be the exact opposite. Either people drive waay too slowly (not the speed limit in a passing lane argument, I'm talking like 20 under for no apparent reason), or the drive waaay too aggressively and tailgate anything and everything with a rear bumper. Or they take offence to everything and road-rage like it's a competitive sport. There's no middle ground. That's how you know you are in Texas. After crossing back into Texas near the end of our trip, not three miles in, there was a large man in a Dodge duelly tailgating my friend's Jetta. Home, sweet home.
That's because you live in slow-poke Houston. 635, GWB, North Dallas Tollway, 121, etc., the unofficial speed limit is always 10+ over, esp. in the left & middle lanes. People only drive too slow on city streets where the limit is 45-50. These people are the ones who cause tailgaters because they're holding up rush hour traffic.
 
Living up to the American stereotype

Me, me, me. Screw the rest.

Props.

How do you get that from that post? :confused:


On a 4+ lane highway, sure, that's typically the case. If you're traveling between states (or honestly, any 4 lane highway), you should know that you never drive in the left lane unless you are passing. If you're not passing someone, you sit in the right lane. Not to mention in those situations, it's also incredibly dangerous for upcoming drives in the left lane.

Read my freeway post. I know about regular highways. ;)
 
That was such a badass "supertroopers" move right there meow.

Totally makes me miss my old police interceptor. Stay in the fast lane and watch everyone part like the red sea.
 
That was such a badass "supertroopers" move right there meow.

Totally makes me miss my old police interceptor. Stay in the fast lane and watch everyone part like the red sea.
We hate people like you & R1600 in this thread. :lol:

Seriously, cop gets on the highway, you better expect everything to go right at the posted speed. I think even the cops hate that. :lol:
 
That was such a badass "supertroopers" move right there meow.

Totally makes me miss my old police interceptor. Stay in the fast lane and watch everyone part like the red sea.
The downside of course, is that one motorist who finds out you're not actually a cop & becomes "jelly". :dunce:
 
The downside of course, is that one motorist who finds out you're not actually a cop & becomes "jelly". :dunce:

Tint was too dark on it to tell even if you were beside it haha. From behind the light getting through the windshield showed the outline of the cage on the rear window, so it looked pretty damn legit.
 
Totally makes me miss my old police interceptor. Stay in the fast lane and watch everyone part like the red sea.

I'd imagine that one of the upsides of owning a PI, or any Panther platform. Everyone thinks it's a cop car from the rear view. And so they act accordingly.:lol:
 
Point is none of us will deal with each other in this particular situation on the road, so we can only speak for the general public which has no opinion here. So stupid argument is stupid.
 
I end up passing on the right more often than on the proper side simply because it doesn't seem to be common knowledge that one is supposed to pull over to let faster traffic through.

Two other factors besides ignorance contribute to this:

-Tough guy factor. Some people seem to take it as a personal challenge if someone dares pass them or tries to overtake, and will thus speed up their raised pickup in order to close the gap.

-The outwardly model citizen. There's also the people who think "I'm going the maximum speed limit! This person will just have to learn to be a safe and responsible driver. I'll hog this single lane road all day."
 
Sometimes I am kind of not sure what to do, like when I get on the main road around town, I go about 7ish lights and make a left a lot and sometimes I'm not sure what to do, like I'm going faster than the right lane but there is that occasion that I get a tailgater, do I just hold my lane and turn when I'm supposed to turn or get in the right lane and risk not being able to get back over (not highway)
 
There was a time when I used to think like R1600Turbo, too: when I am in the fast lane of the Autobahn and already going 10 or 15 over, I have all the right to stay there and not free the lane for anyone who wants to go even faster. But over time I learned that this view was pretty dangerous.

I don't like speeders at all. I mean everyone goes over the limit, so do I. But there has to be some kind of cap, so I chose speeds which would give me only tiny tickets. I have overtaken the police at those speeds many times, and I've never been pulled over for it. But there are a lot of people who don't care and go faster still. I don't like those people, and I can only hope they get pulled over for it.

But still, it is none of my business to force them to go my speed by not making way. Basically, I play cop if I stay in the left lane when I'm done overtaking, because I actively stop those people from overtaking. But I am not the one to judge whether they should speed, and if they do, by how much. Therefore, I move over when I'm done overtaking and let them pull away, independently of the current speed limit.
 
Left-lane hogging is infinitely more dangerous than going five or ten over.

When you sit in the passing lane when not passing, you are forcing other motorists to decide whether or not to pass you on the right side. It's not against the law for them to pass on the right, but it's dangerous.

When you pass another motorist on the left, it's easier for him to see you in his peripheral vision and/or mirror. The mirror is over there beside his left elbow, and it's easy to glance at it as you go down the road.

When you pass a motorist on the right, there's a whole number of problems. The motorist being passed needs to be watching his mirrors. Which means taking his eyes very far off the road and looking towards the side mirror on the right. The motorist passing needs to look into his side mirrors to check that another impatient motorist isn't pulling up on him trying to overtake on the right. And then to be doubly sure, he needs to turn his head nearly 100 degrees to check his blind spot.

Accidents on the highway always inevitably involve blind spots. A quick look at the statistics reveal about 840,000 vehicles damaged every year because of blind spot issues.

By creeping along in the left lane, you're putting the entire highway in your blind spot and the blind spot of any unfortunate sitting behind you waiting to overtake. And why? So you don't have to pull out to overtake slower cars, forcing other people to find creative (and dangerous) ways to overtake you, instead?

Don't be smug. Pull over. Let the speeders choose their own graves, and make sure they don't share it with you.

True true. Now I hear in Germany it is illegal to pass in the slow lane if this is the case, then people going slow or the speed limit in the fast lane should move over.

@R1600
Also if people are speeding in the fast lane sooner or later a cop will bust them and you'll get to watch from the non-passing lane. People have emergencies and other things that cause them to rush you nor I know what the reason is, but if it's something significant I don't want to be the person to have held them up and I'd want the same respect when I'm driving.

I personally know what it's like to be held up. Where I live in Arizona we get what we call snow birds which are people from Oregon, Washington, Montana, Utah, Western Canada along with eastern Canada and some east coast states as well. These are usually older people, the issue is they tend to drive quite slow on city streets as well as the freeway and cause many accidents each year partly because of their much slower travel speeds.
 
I hate those snowbirds too man, they never take me with them. Oregon winter is boring to miserable!
Sometimes I am kind of not sure what to do, like when I get on the main road around town, I go about 7ish lights and make a left a lot and sometimes I'm not sure what to do, like I'm going faster than the right lane but there is that occasion that I get a tailgater, do I just hold my lane and turn when I'm supposed to turn or get in the right lane and risk not being able to get back over (not highway)
If you are not on the highway, you don't have to let anybody by, unless you felt like going out of your way to let people pass.

Even when you are on a highway, sometimes there are awkward situation like approaching the split, where the highway turns into two. It then can be acceptable to keep on the left lane, if that's the lane you need to be on at the split.

Edit: But don't be like one (professional)driver I know who says "I just stay on the left, because I need to be on that lane 'x' miles later lol" Ugh. :crazy:
 
Oh, and to clarify... tailgating and intimidating other motorists is incredibly, incredibly dangerous and stupid... so don't try that at home, kids. :lol:

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I honestly don't understand left-lane huggers. I really don't. You've got everyone else on your blind side, you've got nothing but lightweight deformable barriers protecting you from trucks that jump the center divider at 60-70 mph when they have a blow-out, and when you have a flat tire, you've got several lanes of traffic to cross.

I always drive in the middle lanes when going at average speed or at the limit. This gives you the most escape routes if there's an accident ahead. And I move far over to the right when I'm going slower than traffic (still have the shoulder as an escape) because I hate people passing me on the right.

EXACTLY +infinity 👍

This makes so much sense I could cry. After getting married and having a child recently I've become more prone to stay in the furthest lane over. Why? Just like Niky said, I'm moving slower when doing the speed limit most times than others around me so I should be in that slow lane anyways. However, I also see the danger especially on road ways without dividers. I'm doing a QC of my self and making sure that I've cut the margin of being hit head on by another car to a slim chance. Which means I'm also getting my family out of harms way.

I only used the left lane when I come upon semi trucks and the occasional slug driver. Also a nice little win for me using the correct lane, I actually save a bit more gas using the slipstream of the big trucks and other cars.

I hate those snowbirds too man, they never take me with them. Oregon winter is boring to miserable!

I mean I'm sure you guys in Oregon are quite nice, but the snow birds tend to make me hate the plates from that state. It becomes all to predictable at least here in Arizona. That's the sad part.
 
I mean I'm sure you guys in Oregon are quite nice, but the snow birds tend to make me hate the plates from that state. It becomes all to predictable at least here in Arizona. That's the sad part.

Oh, get over it already. Those bastards are driving your economy(really slowly)! :lol:
 
Oh, get over it already. Those bastards are driving your economy(really slowly)! :lol:

:lol: That was a good joke. Seriously though they only help our economy for a few months and then we're back in the toilet.

A toilet that we in Arizona are so familiar with, I love the smell
 
:lol: That was a good joke. Seriously though they only help our economy for a few months and then we're back in the toilet.

A toilet that we in Arizona are so familiar with, I love the smell

You guys should migrate to Oregon during the summer, help our economy. I was kidding before about all the idiot drivers we have in my state(only Washingtonians). It's just smell of roses on our Oregon freeways. :P:tup:
 
You guys should migrate to Oregon during the summer, help our economy. I was kidding before about all the idiot drivers we have in my state(only Washingtonians). It's just smell of roses on our Oregon freeways. :P:tup:

You know your ugly plates at least alert me to idiot drivers. So slow... so very, very slow.

Also, I hate driving through Oregon. What is with that speed limit on I-5.
 

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