Corvette C7

[Omnis]

Looks like it was designed by Michael Bay.

 

[JAHHAJ]

Looks like it was designed by Michael Bay.

If it was designed by Michael Bay it would've blown up by now.

 

[Zenith]

You know, this all seems like Chevrolet is stuck in one of those "extreme" phases like Cadillac was in 2000 and children's cartoons were in the 1990s. Everything needs to be razor sharp and edgy and cool or else it's awful.


It almost seems like a parody.

Looks like it was designed by Michael Bay.

This. It looks like GM's impact on Transformers is reciprocating.

 

[Youngun]

This. It looks like GM's impact on Transformers is reciprocating.

Talking of transformers, i wouldnt of minded this rear end (with a few tweaks)

Even for an american car

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

You know, this all seems like Chevrolet is stuck in one of those "extreme" phases like Cadillac was in 2000 and children's cartoons were in the 1990s. Everything needs to be razor sharp and edgy and cool or else it's awful.


It almost seems like a parody.

Could be worse:

 

[ussr]

New Viper will take their market and their clients.

 

[ShobThaBob]

How do you figure that?

 

[Organ-Donor]

Atleast the article said the rear taillights should be round. By judging the new corvette logo, I'm guessing the car should have sharp edges... I can only pray for good aftermarket body kits.

 

[LongbowX]

New Viper will take their market and their clients.

How do you figure that?

I echo this. The Viper costs 100,000 minimum. Last time I checked, Corvettes start at 60,000 MSRP, and you can get the current one for lower. Not all Corvettes are ZR1s, they're not that common. And the person shopping for a regular (the best selling) Corvette, is not going to cross-shopping a $100,000 Viper.

 

[ShobThaBob]

And in the states, a 1lt base Corvette starts at around 46k MSRP, which you can still talk down from no problem.

 

[YSSMAN]

You know, this all seems like Chevrolet is stuck in one of those "extreme" phases like Cadillac was in 2000 and children's cartoons were in the 1990s. Everything needs to be razor sharp and edgy and cool or else it's awful.


It almost seems like a parody.

If I'm understanding things correctly, the dual-flags are supposed to be coming back on a wider variety of vehicles as a way to denote a performance variant of the vehicle. It's what they did back in the '50s and '60s at Chevrolet, and with the SS Sedan likely taking the wind out of the use of "SS" as a performance designation, it will likely be a bit more reasonable.

We'll see. Chevrolet's new design language is interesting, if a bit bland. They'll need to do something interesting to jazz it up.

 

[IceMan PJN]

I went to that page and saw nothing but a statement about them changing. I doubt it. It's a Corvette - a low man's low-budget imitation of a real sports car. It'll just be a big-but-low-tech engine (heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine) mounted onto an Amish buggy complete with medieval suspension (leaf springs, literally medieval since they date back centuries) and covered in a cheap plastic shell.

We'll see....

Edit:
On the GT Planet app on my phone and have no idea which page it started from with the aforementioned link, so.... Didn't realize this thread was forty-some pages until after I replied.
:-/

Edit 2:
Found it.

The C7 is set to debut Jan. 13th 2013 at Detroit Show Auto.

the C7 will also have a new logo...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5OYmE7fVpk">YouTube Link</a>

And Chevy now has a website for the C7
http://www.chevrolet.com/one13thirteen.html
it will release video about the C7 every few weeks.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I went to that page and saw nothing but a statement about them changing. I doubt it. It's a Corvette - a low man's low-budget imitation of a real sports car. It'll just be a big-but-low-tech engine (heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine) mounted onto an Amish buggy complete with medieval suspension (leaf springs, literally medieval since they date back centuries) and covered in a cheap plastic shell.

Okay.

Disregarding the fact that transverse leafs are quite possibly the best solution for a road vehicle's suspension, the fact that the motor using "heaps of displacement" is lighter than most inline 6s of half its displacement or less, etc etc. But no, you're totally right. It's just a car for broke people who can't afford real sports cars to feel like they're driving one.

 

[Youngun]

If I'm understanding things correctly, the dual-flags are supposed to be coming back on a wider variety of vehicles as a way to denote a performance variant of the vehicle. It's what they did back in the '50s and '60s at Chevrolet, and with the SS Sedan likely taking the wind out of the use of "SS" as a performance designation, it will likely be a bit more reasonable.

We'll see. Chevrolet's new design language is interesting, if a bit bland. They'll need to do something interesting to jazz it up.

So what was stingray back then. Thought that was top model of corvette.

And in the states, a 1lt base Corvette starts at around 46k MSRP, which you can still talk down from no problem.

I remember top gear going to america to buy cheap cars, and JC went to a corvette dealer and it was so cheap to buy new. Soon as one gets over here, its double if not more for cost. So europeans stay european but never look back. If you have sky watch the corvette factory then watch ferrari factory on sky f1. Then you'll see why there twice the price, same for Lamborghini and McLaren cars (seen McLaren's factory, very clean and high tech, many restricted areas)

 

[Slash]

Just read that the new Corvette will be so different that GM is shutting down several plants to retool, retrain, and renovate their body shops.


http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/I...o-different-GM-will-shut-down-plant-to-retool

 

[Youngun]

Just read that the new Corvette will be so different that GM is shutting down several plants to retool, retrain, and renovate their body shops.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/In-Gear/2012/1019/2014-Corvette-so-different-GM-will-shut-down-plant-to-retool

To me i could of switched out GM with porsche. Each 911 looks the same as the last with no identical part yet the cars always look the same, corvette will be no different, bit sharper but the same basic design. Retool is just "were now coming in to the 21st century so need to modernise our factory". To be honest, the C6 could of been sold as a kit car as it looked like a puzzle being put together.

 

[DarkAvengerZR1]

Sold as a kit car. LOL Yes, right...

 

[Tornado]

Retool is just "were now coming in to the 21st century so need to modernise our factory". To be honest, the C6 could of been sold as a kit car as it looked like a puzzle being put together.

I went to that page and saw nothing but a statement about them changing. I doubt it. It's a Corvette - a low man's low-budget imitation of a real sports car. It'll just be a big-but-low-tech engine (heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine) mounted onto an Amish buggy complete with medieval suspension (leaf springs, literally medieval since they date back centuries) and covered in a cheap plastic shell.

Ooh, look. More informed sentiment.


I wonder what that makes the supposedly "real" sports cars the Corvette outperforms, though.

 

[Zenith]

I went to that page and saw nothing but a statement about them changing. I doubt it. It's a Corvette - a low man's low-budget imitation of a real sports car. It'll just be a big-but-low-tech engine (heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine) mounted onto an Amish buggy complete with medieval suspension (leaf springs, literally medieval since they date back centuries) and covered in a cheap plastic shell.

We'll see....

One of these guys again...

Imitation sports car? How exactly is the Corvette anything less than a sports car? What is "imitation sports car" about 0-60 in sub 4 seconds and great performance all around.

Go look up how Corvettes use leaf springs. Compare this to how trucks, older cars, and Amish buggies use leaf springs.

The Corvette's LS engine will go down in history as one of the all time best engines ever. It is powerful, light, reliable, has great aftermarket support, and is capable of extensive modification. Power per displacement is also an absolutely meaningless measurement.

I won't even begin to respond to your plastic comment.

So please, do explain any of the points you made. It'll be a good laugh for those of us who know what we're talking about.

 

[Youngun]

Sold as a kit car. LOL Yes, right...

I've watched one being put together from chassic on Sky 3D, looks similar to this
Top Gear
yeh maybe a few more parts but all body panels just clip on, and screw in, engine and gearbox, wire harness, brakes and suspension, lights and glass, interior. Would be a big puzzle. (Caterham = 100 peice puzzle, Z06 = 1000 peice puzzle).

The Corvette's LS engine will go down in history as one of the all time best engines ever. It is powerful, light, reliable, has great aftermarket support, and is capable of extensive modification. Power per displacement is also an absolutely meaningless measurement.

I won't even begin to respond to your plastic comment.

Yeh i agree that the LS will be historic but for everywhere but america, it works. after all, there up to LSx now right. but THE best engine i've seen is the LFAs V10 thats the size of a V8 and weight of a V6. Europe is stuck with turboing engines now due to european laws new M3 will be Tri-Turbo straight six from a powerful turbod V8

Being plastic is an advantage and a disadvantage. Light and cheap but in the end, old and flimsy. Time for CF.

 

[Youngun]

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[Zenith]

Yeh i agree that the LS will be historic but for everywhere but america, it works. after all, there up to LSx now right. but THE best engine i've seen is the LFAs V10 thats the size of a V8 and weight of a V6. Europe is stuck with turboing engines now due to european laws new M3 will be Tri-Turbo straight six from a powerful turbod V8

Being plastic is an advantage and a disadvantage. Light and cheap but in the end, old and flimsy. Time for CF.

I wasn't saying that the LS is historic, and I didn't mean that the LS is a good engine for manufacturers to use.

One could probably think of more car models that have had an LS swap done to them than haven't.

 

[Tornado]

Being plastic is an advantage and a disadvantage. Light and cheap but in the end, old and flimsy.

Which would matter if the body of a Corvette was meant to provide any rigidity.

 

[Slash]

I went to that page and saw nothing but a statement about them changing. I doubt it. It's a Corvette - a low man's low-budget imitation of a real sports car. It'll just be a big-but-low-tech engine (heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine) mounted onto an Amish buggy complete with medieval suspension (leaf springs, literally medieval since they date back centuries) and covered in a cheap plastic shell.

We'll see....

Edit:
On the GT Planet app on my phone and have no idea which page it started from with the aforementioned link, so.... Didn't realize this thread was forty-some pages until after I replied.
:-/

Edit 2:
Found it.

How about you get some knowledge about cars before posting.

 

[ussr]

How about you get some knowledge about cars before posting.

I don't have it too. But from a customer point of view i would rather wait, gather some more money and Buy Viper instead of Corvette.

 

[Youngun]

I wasn't saying that the LS is historic, and I didn't mean that the LS is a good engine for manufacturers to use.

One could probably think of more car models that have had an LS swap done to them than haven't.

Thought you said the LS will go down in history??

Over there LS swap may be common due to availability and no tax/import costs, over here, there as rare as the cars them selves, LSs are cheap to get and put in due to simplicity. Being european, i'd rather import a japanese rather than a American so rb25/6DET tuned to over 1000hp any day. Ive seen a few LS rx7s but reasoning for them to go that way is price, the expensive swaps go GTR engine or triple/quad rotor conversations.

 

[Dennisch]

(heaps of displacement to get big power but only as much power as Ferrari would get from a third less engine)

Try to find a Ferrari that has 100K miles on it, without having a rebuild engine.

Edit. Maybe 100K is a bit high. Try 50K.

 

[Tornado]

I don't have it too. But from a customer point of view i would rather wait, gather some more money and Buy Viper instead of Corvette.

That's not a customer point of view. The average Corvette buyer isn't going to hold off until they can spend twice as much money to buy a car that would most likely suit their needs worse.

Being european, i'd rather import a japanese rather than a American so rb25/6DET tuned to over 1000hp any day.

Yeah. Because an 800+ pound (probably much more if you built it up to have that much power), ungainly dimensioned iron block engine is totally better for the job.

Ive seen a few LS rx7s but reasoning for them to go that way is price, the expensive swaps go GTR engine or triple/quad rotor conversations.

No. The reason to go that way is because it's cheaper, more reliable, more powerful and does almost nothing to the handling balance compared to the engine that is already in there.


The only reason you would put an even more complicated and fiddly version of the engine that was already in there or (even worse) an iron block straight six is if you didn't particularly care about any of those things; at which you're in no position to claim it is a "better" engine over an LSx series because you (again) don't know what you're talking about.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Try to find a Ferrari that has 100K miles on it, without having a rebuild engine.

Edit. Maybe 100K is a bit high. Try 50K.

A better challenge is try finding a modern Ferrari with those mileages to begin with.

I remember talking to a Ferrari representative at a car show in Chicago a while back and he said he seldom saw a used Ferrari go over the 10,000 mile marker.

 

[JAHHAJ]

A better challenge is try finding a modern Ferrari with those mileages to begin with.

That would and should be pratically impossible.