Corvette C7

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Well, they certainly have to become better in terms of quality and craftsmanship. The USA isn't the only market where GM sells cars, and europeans have higher standards, and Ford has been dominating here for a long time, so to have any chance with Opel and also Chevrolet, they have to step their game up. This Cruze LTZ seems to be a good step forward, and so was the Captiva!
The smaller cars coming from GM have indeed been getting some praise over the last few years. Also, Ford has been doing well largely because they're offering different cars here than they do in the States. the European Ford branch does a few things differently than the American branch, from what I know.

But the biggest threat to GM now isn't Ford anymore, or any other european or japanese makes, but rather the korean makes in form of Kia and Hyundai. The i30 is geniuenly a great car and the quality (soft touch materials !!!) is on european standards and better than most Opel cabins. It just needs a little more refinement and it's on VW standards.
These cars are mostly bought because they're okay-ish cars for a cheap price. Which, then, is entirely irrelevant when talking about the C7. As a matter of fact, it seems that GM can very well produce cars with high quality interiors, as Beeblebrox237 said. Now, just because GM doesn't bother putting a VW quality interior (honestly, people like VW interiors these days?) into cars like the Spark doesn't mean they wouldn't bother putting something along those lines into their flagship car.

Personally, I'd say that the biggest problem for Chevrolet isn't so much what their cars actually are like. It's just hard for them to get noticed in Europe, given that they haven't made much of a name for themselves over here, I feel. Cars like the Capri, the Fiesta, the Focus have been household names over here for years. People barely know what a Cruze is, though. And let's not forget that a lot of people really don't buy a car because it's good, but because the marketing worked. Being a household name will help with that, quite a bit.

You seem to be affected by that, to an extend, too. No offence, but several people who have had a closer look at the C7's interior told you it's a good one. And you're like "yeah, can't be, it's an American car". There used to be a time when Japanese cars were cheap, plastic boxes that were bought because they were cheap and bulletproof, not because they were nice. That changed. And from what I can tell, "American made = bad interior and build quality" isn't a statement that holds true like it it did a decade or two ago.

I have no hands-on experience with the Cruze TLZ, for example. But it's not hard to imagine that, from what I've seen, its interior would be a nicer place to be than an Audi A1. Thing's nothing but cheap, hard plastic, some obviously fake leather and that's it. But, there's an Audi badge up front, so people are like "yeah, ain't that a great interior? German quality, bro!"
 
I didn't go searching for the tag saying exactly what the material was but Im confident that my hand was touching real leather, it felt better than any Japanese synthetic I've ever come into contact with... Frankly, it felt a lot like the leather out of my parents' cadillacs (that's the only real source of Cadillac experience I have).
 
And let's not forget that a lot of people really don't buy a car because it's good, but because the marketing worked.

But a lot of sales are also made by mouth propaganda. If people like a product, they're going to advertise it. Or are you saying the Golf sells in these large quantities because VW knows how to market them? People buy Golfs because they're good and reliable. Expensive? Yes. But they're good. Same goes for example Lexus, at first people were very sceptical, because the car offered quality products and innovations at a price point this was to this date unknown, and now Lexus is a vastly accepted maker of quality products. And how was that achieved? Partially by mouth propaganda.

And that brings me to a different point

You seem to be affected by that, to an extend, too. No offence, but several people who have had a closer look at the C7's interior told you it's a good one. And you're like "yeah, can't be, it's an American car".

I don't think, I'm really affected by it. But you know, that we were getting US Cars here in Germany for a long time, mostly from Chrysler (Jeep, Dodge, etc.) and also some models from Ford, that were getting sold in the US (the Escape, known as the Maverick here) and to be honest, they were rubbish in terms of craftsmenship. They may've been good and reliable, but qualitywise it didn't left a good first impression.

I was simply asking, because of the fact I've never sit in a C7 cabin, if the quality was alike to an american car, american cars we're also getting in Germany. The Chrysler 300C, for example, was actually a nice place to be, but others were total rubbish. (Chrysler PT Cruiser, Dodge Nitro)
I don't know if you didn't understood me properly, but I wasn't trying to imply at any point that the C7 was rubbish in any way or trying to bash the C7 and putting the stereotype of an US car on it (from my experience in US cars we get/got here in Germany)
I was simply asking a question in terms or with the goal in maybe finding a reason in the interior, that GM is able to sell it at this low price point. Further questioning was simply to avoid any possible misunderstandings or misconceptions and not trying to find a grip on anything to "further bash" on the Corvette, which btw I was never doing, my first post in here was even a praise for it's performance, so I don't know what you're trying to say me, but you're wrong.

But, there's an Audi badge up front, so people are like "yeah, ain't that a great interior? German quality, bro!"

I'm guessing you're also saying, that I think that way, and you're wrong on that as well. I am and was never the person to judge a car by it's badge or anything. I'd like to at least sit in a car before making any decision of wether I think this car is good or bad. Plus, I was never the guy who went "Yeah, german quality. Anything else is inferior!" because that's just stupid.

Now knowing, from people how have been sitting in this car, that the Interior is top notch, it just leaves me to say two things: The Corvette is a hell of a car and you should maybe stop trying to judge people by their questions (!!!) and implying that I'm biased or trying to put a stereotypical picture onto the Corvette, just because I keep asking, because of the fact, that I don't judge cars by it's first look, neither do I do this with people, and you shouldn't either.
 
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Back end looks better than the stock one.

Which isn't saying much lol. That C7 wagon is just as ugly as the Ferrari FF (which I think is one of the ugliest modern sports cars, and the insane price doesn't help). I think the only sports car that truly pulls off a wagon version is the Porsche Panamara and does it well. I'm just not a fan of wagons.
 
I remember the reaction to it being pretty positive when it was originally posted. I actually find it quite attractive, and interesting. I do agree about the Ferrari FF unattractive-ness though. but that's due to other styling elements.

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Also, to add. The fact that they posted a F.A.Q., seems to imply that they may actually build it, they got enough reactions to consider the possibility.
 
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I guess it helps that I like the Ferrari FF... and the Breadvan... and hatchbacks in general.
 
I think the wagon is up there with some of the most epic wagons like the Vauxhall VXR8 wagon, Ferrari FF and Audi RS4/6 and others, they really should make it, no matter the price.
 
In the spirit of the original no less.

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The only reason I think that's cool is because I KNOW that ends up being the car we have today(Well, not in Station Wagon form, but you get the idea). I feel like 60's people wouldn't have looked at that and went "Wow, hella epic" since they didn't really yet understand what a Corvette was/is/going to be. IT just looks like a run-of-the-mill wagon.

Am I making any sense?
 
The wagon profile doesn't match up well with the front end.

I still like the idea oddly. I guess it helps that I too have a soft spot for shooting brake designs in general.
 
Hideous 👎

Which isn't saying much lol. That C7 wagon is just as ugly as the Ferrari FF (which I think is one of the ugliest modern sports cars, and the insane price doesn't help). I think the only sports car that truly pulls off a wagon version is the Porsche Panamara and does it well. I'm just not a fan of wagons.

They look better than that GT-R in your display pic. :lol:
 
R&T have a new article out where they covered a test where Tony Stewart was invited to test the 2014 C7 at GM's own MRC (Millford road course)
The thing that really caught me was simply the color of the thing called Lime Rock Green a deep emerald hue with a fat flake metallic, it was gorgeous ill see if a pic will work.
Ask me about whatever you want to know as they gave some spec's on most of the car.
 
I'd go for the new C7. very nearly as fast, more refined to drive,a nd more comfortable. The C7 could be daily driven, but not the Viper.
 
I'd go for the new C7. very nearly as fast, more refined to drive,a nd more comfortable. The C7 could be daily driven, but not the Viper.
This is what I've been hearing but like the Corvette it's been one of my childhood must own cars. :lol: I was gonna test drive an '08 SRT10 coupe in snakeskin green this weekend and possibly make an offer but someone came in an hour before me and bought it.... :(
I vote new Viper.... :P

Ha, if I could afford a brand new one I would. It seems like a new C7 and a very lightly used SRT10 Viper are in the same price bracket.... That's almost like making me choose between Natalie Portman or Mila Kunis. :lol:

Also, I don't remember if you're from Guelph or not but Royal City Fine Car's has a brand new 2013 GTS for sale in their dealership to drool at!
 
I'm from Port Dover, about 90mins from Guelph. Might be worth making the trip to see it though!

I guess it's hard for anyone to give advice without any experience with these cars. I'd imagine the Vette is "nicer" but the Viper will be hilarious.

I'd advocate for the Viper. The older you get the less you want to drive a car like that, and you can get a lightly used C7 in a couple years after you've had your Viper fun.
 
I guess you can order the C7 with stripes... The 60th anniversary C6 (white with light silver stripes) looked good but that's the only time I've seen stripes that looked decent on a Vette (maybe because they are subtle).

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/08/06/stripes-galore-2014-corvette-stingray-order-guide-updates/

Hmm, I guess that would explain this!


You guys are silly. Everyone knows you don't choose one, you go for both.

Stop thinking logically, people :lol:

I like the way you think!
 
I remember seeing that. Doesn't look too bad. At least the stripes taper off and get skinnier at the front.

That's what saves it I think. Never been a fan of stripes on Vette's unless it's fender hash marks but these don't look too bad.
 
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