COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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Michael88
Wow. I just read that even mild cases suffer from lung tissue damage so severe that they will likely need treatment for the rest of their lives. The article said that doctors checked x-rays of recovered people and at first they thought they mixed them up with pics from still infected people. The virus does deep lung tissue damage unlike any other pneumonia where the lung recovers nearly to 100%.

Even though they feel really good now, several divers' lung damage was so extensive that they are no longer allowed to do ANY diving at all, the risk of a diving accident and health issues would be way too great. And those were cases with only mild fever and no hospitalization.

Man, if that's true its MUCH worse than I thought. :crazy:
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Do you have any kind of statistics on how many people are left with lung damage? Also how do we know they will not recover? It has not been long...
 
Danoff
Do you have any kind of statistics on how many people are left with lung damage? Also how do we know they will not recover? It has not been long...
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According to the article the lung is severely scarred after the infection, even light cases.- Scar tissue does not regenerate and it always impedes the function of an organ. No idea about statistics, but the cases mentioned had very mild symptoms that did not even require hospitalization, the recovered patients and their doctors first thought it was an error but they double checked it and did tests.

No idea about statistics, its probably way too early to make accurate predictions.
 
Michael88
According to the article the lung is severely scarred after the infection, even light cases.- Scar tissue does not regenerate and it always impedes the function of an organ. No idea about statistics, but the cases mentioned had very mild symptoms that did not even require hospitalization, the recovered patients and their doctors first thought it was an error but they double checked it and did tests.

No idea about statistics, its probably way too early to make accurate predictions.
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Lots of things scar lungs, including asthma and other respiratory infections. And they recover over time.
 
Only Small sample sizes have shown some to have reduced Lung Capacity after Recovery, but there is not much data on how Patients are doing after recovery as a whole though, so It's going to take time to workout the long term side effects if there is any.
 
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Trying to get ventilators and arrange ICU space but the healthcare worker situation seems underrepresented at the moment.
 
Touring Mars
I hope your Mum is OK... did you get the result of the test yet? It's very unlikely to have come down with something as a result of picking up a virus on the same day, so whatever your Mum is suffering from is likely to have come from somewhere else.
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Thankfully she came back negative and was feeling a lot better today. But she complained early this morning she couldn't breathe.
 
MaxAttack
Y'know, Trump has done enough legitimately stupid stuff that twisting his words out of context to make him look bad is the very definition of a wasted exercise.
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The above article reinforces the direct quote. The only thing being twisted are the facts, by Trump:

"The Islamic Society of North America, alongside Muslim medical experts, has urged the suspension of group prayers, among other gatherings.

Despite similar measures taken across much of the Christian community, a Virginia pastor who continued to preach in defiance of stay-at-home rules died a week ago of coronavirus."

Let me know if you meant that hate crimes against Muslims are under proportion.
 
Sander 001
The above article reinforces the direct quote. The only thing being twisted are the facts, by Trump:

"The Islamic Society of North America, alongside Muslim medical experts, has urged the suspension of group prayers, among other gatherings.

Despite similar measures taken across much of the Christian community, a Virginia pastor who continued to preach in defiance of stay-at-home rules died a week ago of coronavirus."

Let me know if you meant that hate crimes against Muslims are under proportion.
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I read the article before replying. I'm referring to nothing but the original tweet here which equates re-iterating that Muslims should stay home during Ramadan with "anti-Muslim bigotry" which it just absolutely is not at all.

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Asked whether he thought imams would refuse to follow social distancing orders, Trump responded: "No, I don't think that at all."

"I am somebody that believes in faith. And it matters not what your faith is. But our politicians seem to treat different faiths very differently."
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I don't see any part of this that's racist, bigoted, or even untrue. A lot of politicians have a different attitude to Islam and Christianity, regardless which direction that difference swings.

As I said before, there are no shortage of incriminating, really stupid or outrageous things the man has said, but this isn't one of them, and the people pulling linguistic/journalistic contortionist moves to make it look that way are only really making themselves look petty and desperate.
 
Place no hope in vaccines, a noted Imperial College authority figure intones. Neither should we place any reliance on authority figures or WHO, we might add.

Humanity will have to live with the threat of coronavirus “for the foreseeable future” and adapt accordingly because there is no guarantee that a vaccine can be successfully developed, one of the world’s leading experts on the disease has warned.

The stark message was delivered by David Nabarro, professor of global health at Imperial College, London, and an envoy for the World Health Organisation on Covid-19
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ect-us-from-covid-19-says-world-health-expert
 
MaxAttack
I read the article before replying. I'm referring to nothing but the original tweet here which equates re-iterating that Muslims should stay home during Ramadan with "anti-Muslim bigotry" which it just absolutely is not at all.



I don't see any part of this that's racist, bigoted, or even untrue. A lot of politicians have a different attitude to Islam and Christianity, regardless which direction that difference swings.

As I said before, there are no shortage of incriminating, really stupid or outrageous things the man has said, but this isn't one of them, and the people pulling linguistic/journalistic contortionist moves to make it look that way are only really making themselves look petty and desperate.
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Talk about out of context.
That quote isn't problematic but if you don't ignore "They go after Christian churches but they don't tend to go after mosques," then it absolutely is.
And you're accusing me being out of context. Hilarious.
 
Sander 001
Talk about out of context.
That quote isn't problematic but if you don't ignore "They go after Christian churches but they don't tend to go after mosques," then it absolutely is.
And you're accusing me being out of context. Hilarious.
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Except I didn't ignore it and gave my opinion pretty clearly:

Me
I don't see any part of this that's racist, bigoted, or even untrue. A lot of politicians have a different attitude to Islam and Christianity, regardless which direction that difference swings.
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Need I remind you, you're the one who posted a context-less tweet containing an out of context quote. It's another user who was kind enough to provide the fully contextualised article.
 
MaxAttack
Except I didn't ignore it and gave my opinion pretty clearly:



Need I remind you, you're the one who posted a context-less tweet containing an out of context quote. It's another user who was kind enough to provide the fully contextualised article.
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"They go after Christian churches but they don't tend to go after mosques,"

Nothing Trump said before or after that is exculpatory or changes meaning in any way.

The article itself just reinforces that he's lying.
 
Sander 001
"They go after Christian churches but they don't tend to go after mosques,"

Nothing Trump said before or after that is exculpatory or changes meaning in any way.

The article itself just reinforces that he's lying.
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I mean, it's not even a valid statement without some extra context - if only to provide who the "they" are he's referring to - politicians? Bearded over 35s named Michael? Reptile aliens?

But, at the end of the day, you're gonna infer what you're gonna infer and this discussion has strayed enough from the thread topic as is.
 
MaxAttack
I mean, it's not even a valid statement without some extra context - if only to provide who the "they" are he's referring to - politicians? Bearded over 35s named Michael? Reptile aliens?

But, at the end of the day, you're gonna infer what you're gonna infer and this discussion has strayed enough from the thread topic as is.
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Strayed enough from the thread topic? If the collateral victimization of COVID-19 and elevated racism isn't worthy of attention, I don't know what is. Hot takes though are fine, apparently.

The problem is not what I infer, it's many of Trump's followers who are looking for anything to validate their bigotry and fuel their hatred.
 

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