COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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McLaren
Bah gawd, man!

If you had said that on Twitter, you'd have caused all sorts of hell. I've already seen the red pilled folks going, "Wow, how awfully convenient!" & "Trump gets to take credit for this, not Joe!"

And all I can think is, how funny & stupid these people remain. Half of these nitwits think Covid is Bill Gates' creation made directly to defeat Trump & clamor about how they're never going to take a vaccine. The other half is the usual fake concern they love exhibiting.
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And the third half are the ones who failed math.....

I'm just hoping that the vaccine could be coming out by end of the year, even though it won't be likely until mid 2021 its available for everyone.
 
Donald Trump, Jr. has reportedly highlighted a conspiracy against his dad based on the timing of the vaccine reveal.

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/11/0...zers-covid-vaccine-only-5-responses-you-need/

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Nevertheless, I'm sure trials will follow... and, in addition, they're going to be testing the vaccine too. :lol:
 
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McLaren
Bah gawd, man!

If you had said that on Twitter, you'd have caused all sorts of hell. I've already seen the red pilled folks going, "Wow, how awfully convenient!" & "Trump gets to take credit for this, not Joe!"
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:P

It was in the mold of that sort of inanity that I offered it.

Edit: Christ, look at the size of that goiter on DJTJ's...oh, that's his face.
 
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It is incredible that a family with what seems the combined IQ of a roadkill toad can get through life making obscene amounts of money.
 
Had the day off today, but still checked work email from my phone. Today someone in the office tested positive for the 'Rona. Everyone was forced to pack up what they needed and get out ASAP. Office will be cleaned and sterilized and back open in about a week.

Doesn't affect me since I haven't been there in a month or so. Everyone who has needs to get tested and quarantine for 2 weeks if needed.
 
TB
In all honesty, if this announcement had come out before today and Trump and Co. had taken credit for it like they're trying to do, there's no way I'm getting in line for that shot as I don't trust a single word out of their mouths.
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I'm not taking it either way.
Drugs go through years of testing for a reason and I'm not exactly the first person to run to a hospital/doctor either. Heck now that I think about it besides the mandatory shots for school, I've never had a flu shot and don't plan to.
PS I'm not an antivaxer.
 
ryzno
I'm not taking it either way.
Drugs go through years of testing for a reason and I'm not exactly the first person to run to a hospital/doctor either. Heck now that I think about it besides the mandatory shots for school, I've never had a flu shot and don't plan to.
PS I'm not an antivaxer.
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As the father of a high risk child and the husband of an educated, logical healthcare worker, I'll be in line for the Covid vaccination when it's gone through the proper channels and deemed safe and effective. Just like I do every year for the flu shot.
 
TB
As the father of a high risk child and the husband of an educated, logical healthcare worker, I'll be in line for the Covid vaccination when it's gone through the proper channels and deemed safe and effective. Just like I do every year for the flu shot.
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As long as nurse "Tammy" isn't dispensing it.
 
I'll be getting it as soon as it's available here. Where I work is going to attempt to get every employee in the first round of vaccinations and, hopefully, our families. While I don't serve in a patient care role, I think their game plan is to get everyone vaccinated so in the event we need to help at the hospital, we're able to do so safely...or at least mostly safe. As of right now, it's looking like January or February.

I've signed up for a couple of trials here too and I hope that I can get in on one of them.
 
McLaren
I'm not worried about being first or last in line. As part of the general public, I assume millions of people will have already gotten it under priority treatment before I get a chance myself.
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That's precisely what I think will happen in my case as well.
 
Blitz24
They also have lost obscene amounts of money.
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It's that old F1 adage, the best way to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune.

McLaren
I'm not worried about being first or last in line. As part of the general public, I assume millions of people will have already gotten it under priority treatment before I get a chance myself.
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Yeah, I can think of lots and lots of people who should get it before I should. I can wear a mask, work in isolation and roll the dice with reasonable confidence if I happen to be unlucky enough to catch it. I'd want to see medical staff, vulnerable people and even customer facing employees get it before me.
 
New York State has announced that private residences can only have a maximum of 10 people starting Friday November 13th at 10 PM. While this shows the second wave lockdown is approaching again for the Northeast, I have no idea how this will be enforced.
 
Blitz24
New York State has announced that private residences can only have a maximum of 10 people starting Friday November 13th at 10 PM. While this shows the second wave lockdown is approaching again for the Northeast, I have no idea how this will be enforced.
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Presumably they'll only be able to act on it if someone calls complaining about noise from a party or large numbers of cars suddenly blocking up all the parking spaces or such, and gives them a reason to investigate. I can't imagine how it would be enforcable otherwise without going into 1980's Action Movie Evil Regime mode.
 
As far as I can see, in every jurisdiction, every time there is a mask/social distancing mandate or, at the extreme, a lock down, you start to see the cases dropping, followed by the death rate. The US has not followed that trend because of its size & the fact that different regions of the country have failed to adhere to mask & social distancing guidelines resulting in the cases in the country as a whole never really dropping off that much. At the same time, it seems clear that the death rate is more moderate than in March - May, because (presumably) the most vulnerable are now more sheltered & treatments have improved.
 
Biggles
As far as I can see, in every jurisdiction, every time there is a mask/social distancing mandate or, at the extreme, a lock down, you start to see the cases dropping, followed by the death rate. The US has not followed that trend because of its size & the fact that different regions of the country have failed to adhere to mask & social distancing guidelines resulting in the cases in the country as a whole never really dropping off that much. At the same time, it seems clear that the death rate is more moderate than in March - May, because (presumably) the most vulnerable are now more sheltered & treatments have improved.
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We haven't seen a huge spike in the death rate just yet, but it's hard to pinpoint why that is the case. It could be that the virus has mutated to be less lethal, but at the same time, more people could just be asymptomatic/do a better job at isolating once confirmed they have the virus. The problem is, it's not all people, as some will go about their daily lives and not care if they are sick (or care about anyone else they might infect).
 
Biggles
As far as I can see, in every jurisdiction, every time there is a mask/social distancing mandate or, at the extreme, a lock down, you start to see the cases dropping, followed by the death rate. The US has not followed that trend because of its size & the fact that different regions of the country have failed to adhere to mask & social distancing guidelines resulting in the cases in the country as a whole never really dropping off that much. At the same time, it seems clear that the death rate is more moderate than in March - May, because (presumably) the most vulnerable are now more sheltered & treatments have improved.
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A study conducted by Wayne State University in Detroit suggests that people are getting a smaller viral load due to masks and physical distancing which is leading to a less severe bout with the virus. This is translating into a lower mortality rate. I'm not sure how this compares with states where people aren't taking the guidelines as serious though. Anecdotally, Utah has a relatively low mortality rate coupled with a relatively low amount of compliance, but Utah also has one of the youngest and healthiest populations too.

Really, there are probably a ton of factors leading to a lower mortality rate. If I were to take a shot in the dark, I'd say mutations have made COVID less deadly. It's not in a virus's best interest to kill its host.
 
Joey D
If I were to take a shot in the dark, I'd say mutations have made COVID less deadly.
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From what Van-Tam has said (deputy medical officer, easier to follow than the senior medical officer) the treatments are far improved. That's unsurprising given the sheer volume of cases that have arrived in hospitals around the world. The biggest survivability improvement seems to be in the 40-55 (ish) range. Younger groups already had the best survivability rates, and there's been a relatively small improvement in survivability for the oldest sections of the population. So it's still deadly, and a quick hospital admission is vital after the onset of breathing difficulty.

Of course, "less deadly" is good, but now we're finding out more about Long Covid, and it seems debilitating... and nobody seems to know just how long "long" is.
 
I've got the task of arranging our group meetings, and my boss is fairly insistent on meeting in person. The rest of us (6 of us) are also keen to meet in person, and we met two weeks ago in a large conference room, all socially distanced and wearing masks - and it worked very nicely.

Now, however, all in-person meetings are suspended and we are not allowed to book a room, and have been told to use Zoom instead. Unfortunately, my boss is really not happy and is arguing that there's more chance of us getting COVID from each other in the lab than at a group meeting. He also said that we should not bother booking a room and just have a meeting anyway...

However, I've made it clear that I think that is a very bad idea... I don't even think about it in terms of the risk of catching the virus from each other - it's more the fact that if the Head of School finds out that a senior academic is knowingly flouting COVID restrictions that most people (including us) are making such an effort to respect, then he (and we) could find ourselves in serious trouble. Maybe I'm just a stickler for the rules, but I honestly don't see why an in-person meeting is necessary, when the simple fact is that it isn't 'necessary', but merely desirable.

It is a bit awkward though, since I get the feeling that the others would happily ignore the restrictions and have a 'secret' meeting anyway. Fortunately it isn't up to them :lol:
 
Blitz24
We haven't seen a huge spike in the death rate just yet, but it's hard to pinpoint why that is the case.
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We also need to remember that back in the spring, the only way anyone was getting tested was if they had pretty nasty symptoms. Now that testing is widely available, there are lots of people getting tests for potential exposure or mild symptoms. That is leading to lots of asymptomatic and mild cases that boost the denominator in the mortality rate.

Touring Mars
However, I've made it clear that I think that is a very bad idea... I don't even think about it in terms of the risk of catching the virus from each other - it's more the fact that if the Head of School finds out that a senior academic is knowingly flouting COVID restrictions that most people (including us) are making such an effort to respect, then he (and we) could find ourselves in serious trouble.
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I would tell him (by email to create the paper trail) that if he wants in person meetings, then he is the one that needs to organise and find a space because you are not prepared to break university policy. If you attend a meeting after that, you were simply following the direction of your superior.
 
Touring Mars
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Now, however, all in-person meetings are suspended and we are not allowed to book a room, and have been told to use Zoom instead. Unfortunately, my boss is really not happy and is arguing that there's more chance of us getting COVID from each other in the lab than at a group meeting.
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Is it feasible to point out to your boss that accepting a lesser risk (meetings) in addition to the larger risk you're already taking (lab work) is still an increase in overall risk?
 

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