COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)
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When the time comes, yes.
For us, it started off that there were about 80 that needed to since they're Federal employees. We had a feeling that would expand out to everyone.
Now the question is will the people that were saying "if the vaccine becomes mandatory, I'm going to quit" will or not. There are two that I know of in my building. They do still have the option of weekly testing, though.
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Things have been fairly progressive on campus and for the most part have worked pretty well.
Vaccine Information | North Dakota State University
Vaccine Available by Appointment Students can receive free Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccinations at Student Health Service. Call 701-231-7331 to schedule your appointment.
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My university already requires vaccinations for all students. They recently delayed the requirement for staff because the government extended their vaccine mandate. When looking at my school's covid tracker, most positives are from the staff
Vaccination rate
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It's the other way around for us - 19 students and 2 employees.
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The irony. Pfizer CEO said people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are "Crimminals"
Hold my beer.
www.justice.gov
Hold my beer.
Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History
American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together “Pfizer”) have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from...
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That was 12 years ago and Albert Bourla wasn't the CEO of Pfizer at the time. Jeff Kindler was and I believe he "retired" after all this, despite getting a job at Centrexion soon after.The irony. Pfizer CEO said people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are "Crimminals"
Hold my beer.
Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History
American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together “Pfizer”) have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from...
If you're trying to correlate that something Pfizer did in the past to them spreading misinformation about the vaccine, you probably should take a look at the first post where it says "no conspiracy theories".
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From 2009.
The current Pfizer CEO did not assume any prominent role in the company til' 2014. Before then, he held various executive positions outside the US. He was named CEO in 2018.
Amazing what a little Googling does instead of believing the first thing you find on whatever toilet rag you think you found the "gotcha" there.
The current Pfizer CEO did not assume any prominent role in the company til' 2014. Before then, he held various executive positions outside the US. He was named CEO in 2018.
Amazing what a little Googling does instead of believing the first thing you find on whatever toilet rag you think you found the "gotcha" there.
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And I guess the current guy is supposed to have said this three weeks ago? Lukewarm off the presses.
Still, it's a terribly daft statement. In the United States, misinformation is actually protected speech, and countries where it isn't suck for that fact alone. I ****ing hate misinformation but I ****ing love that it's protected, meaning those who engage in it are very much not "crimminals" (unless they actually are but in unrelated contexts). Governments are not arbiters of truth.
Still, it's a terribly daft statement. In the United States, misinformation is actually protected speech, and countries where it isn't suck for that fact alone. I ****ing hate misinformation but I ****ing love that it's protected, meaning those who engage in it are very much not "crimminals" (unless they actually are but in unrelated contexts). Governments are not arbiters of truth.
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Fraud isn't though, which some of the recent misinformation meanders into.
Not to pile on here, but... piling on... Not only did you apparently bungle the person, and the date, but this is an ad hominem fallacy. Let's suppose that the old Pfizer CEO said this, is it not possible for a person who is a criminal to identify criminal acts? Obviously it is possible, and this is just extremely flawed reasoning. That's even presuming that the old Pfizer CEO is a criminal, which... is not the same thing as settling a case by some stretch.The irony. Pfizer CEO said people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are "Crimminals"
Hold my beer.
Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History
American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together “Pfizer”) have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from...
So the responses to your "hold my beer" moment appear to be:
1) Wrong date
2) Wrong person
3) It's a settlement
4) Ad hominem
5) 1st amendment would have been a better argument
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You certainly do need to put it down, that's for sure.
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Yeah I guess he forgot his companies past history. Suprise, suprise.
Yeah criminals.
Pfizer CEO says people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are 'criminals'
People who spread misinformation on Covid-19 vaccines are "criminals," Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said, "because they have literally cost millions of lives."
Oh forgot this also.
Is this for real?
Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
Freedom of Information Act requests are rarely speedy, but when a group of scientists asked the federal government to share the data it relied upon in licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, the response went beyond typical bureaucratic foot-dragging.
www.reuters.com
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This. Does. Not. Matter.
An individual not directly connected to criminal activity remarking on other supposed criminal activity (which isn't) isn't a hypocrite for having done so, as you've alleged. They may still be a hypocrite but not for the reason that you've alleged.
As has been pointed out, you've declined to address the individual's arguments and instead opted to attack the individual (ineptly, as it happens, as has been shown in responses to your attack). This tactic is typically employed because the individual's argument is itself strong, but you've employed it when the argument is hilariously weak; indeed I knocked it down with little effort.
Yeah criminals.
Pfizer CEO says people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are 'criminals'
People who spread misinformation on Covid-19 vaccines are "criminals," Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said, "because they have literally cost millions of lives."www.cnbc.com
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This has been misconstrued:Oh forgot this also.
Is this for real?
Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
Freedom of Information Act requests are rarely speedy, but when a group of scientists asked the federal government to share the data it relied upon in licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, the response went beyond typical bureaucratic foot-dragging.
Does FDA Want Until 2076 To Release Vaccine Data?
A scheduling dispute related to an FOIA request for COVID-19 vaccine data was misconstrued on social media.
www.snopes.com
Yes, at the current rate the government processes documents it will take a significantly long time, but the request is for more than 329,000 pages of information. Even at the increased speed of 5,000 pages per month, that's still five and half years to release everything. Medical information is notoriously difficult to release too because of HIPAA and it is almost a certainty that those 329,000 pages include full medical records for every participant in the trial. Medical records can be several hundred pages depending on what information was collected, how many encounters the patient had, and how much the person writing the information actually writes. A standard office visit for something like a sore throat could still be five or more pages.
I've processed requests for medical information before. I have to review everything, then I send it to HIM (health information management), then they send it to compliance who reviews it, then they send it to legal who reviews it and then it's released. The process can take weeks for one patient.
The problem with the FOIA request is that it's not targeted. If it was targeted, it wouldn't take all that long. And most of the data that is relevant is available anyway.
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What does this have to do with TB's co-worker?
Also, does Canada allow private companies to buy vaccines directly from manufacturers? The last I saw of it the NHL was trying to do it and got put through the wringer due to poor optics. Regardless, Moderna does and will continue to supply the Canadian Government with vaccines through 2024.
Moderna Announces Supply Agreement with Canada for Expanded Supply of Moderna’s COVID-19 Vaccine in 2022, in 2023 and in 2024 | Moderna, Inc.
For 2022 and 2023, agreement provides for 20 million doses each year with option for additional 15 million doses each year For 2024, agreement provides option for up to 35 million additional doses CAMBRIDGE, Mass. --(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 16, 2021-- Moderna, Inc.
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Yes Toyota purchased the doses themselves. It's Toyota they think ahead unlike other companies and Governments. So I guess the Canadian Government sees this going to at least 2024? My phone is messing up.
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Considering he hasn't been vaccinated yet, that's not much of an accomplishment.
I can't find much besides Toyota assisting with some mobile vaccinations in May and they started mandatory testing on April 1st, so I have no idea when you may have been vaccinated.
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