COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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I am triple Pfizer poked, last poke was December 9th, I think.

I think I caught Covid at Christmas dinner (see my signature). A few days later I had a runny nose, and the next day I also had a sore throat.

Well it has been three weeks since I first felt symptoms, and I just tested positive again on Monday.

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For those that don't know the story, this will give you a clue.

Edit: I apologise for the meme. I did not realise it contained that expletive. I mean I read it but for some reason my brain filtered out that it was not appropriate. I will try to be more mindful in the future.
 
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Chrunch Houston
I am triple Pfizer poked, last poke was December 9th, I think.

I think I caught Covid at Christmas dinner (see my signature). A few days later I had a runny nose, and the next day I also had a sore throat.

Well it has been three weeks since I first felt symptoms, and I just tested positive again on Monday.

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That means that you need to be more careful. It's not like you get a force shield from the vaccines.
 
Chrunch Houston
I am triple Pfizer poked, last poke was December 9th, I think.

I think I caught Covid at Christmas dinner (see my signature). A few days later I had a runny nose, and the next day I also had a sore throat.

Well it has been three weeks since I first felt symptoms, and I just tested positive again on Monday.

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Not sure what your point is. The jab doesn't magically protect you from exposing yourself to Covid (although it reduces the chances by 5 times) but it should help to keep you out of the hospital according to the stats.

covid.cdc.gov

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov

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42427 positve tests yesterday. 242961 cases last week. Positivity rate of 36.8%. A rise of 77%.

Kids up to 11 years old are 131% up. Up to 18 78%.

Hospital numbers.

-18%
 
Chrunch Houston
I am triple Pfizer poked, last poke was December 9th, I think.

I think I caught Covid at Christmas dinner (see my signature). A few days later I had a runny nose, and the next day I also had a sore throat.

Well it has been three weeks since I first felt symptoms, and I just tested positive again on Monday.

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You can test positive for long as six weeks after your initial infection. Typically, you're no longer contagious after 8-10 days though. However, if you're still experiencing symptoms, it's best to talk to your primary care doctor and get their input on it. The tests aren't 100% accurate though, virtually no test is. Assuming you got a PCR test through Walgreens they are, at best, 85% accurate. An antigen test is probably at best 50% accurate, maybe less with Omicron. The only way to truly know would be to do a blood test, but that's not realistic nor cost-effective.

Three weeks isn't unheard of to still be having symptoms though. Long COVID is very much a thing and can last a really long time, which has been one of the biggest issues with the pandemic that so many people seem to brush off. A co-worker is now 8 months post-infection and still having respiratory issues. They still have no idea when or even if the symptoms will go away. We still don't know the long-term outcomes for Long COVID since it hasn't been long enough yet. It could very much be a case where some people never fully get rid of their symptoms or develop something similar to asthma.

The vaccine was never going to fully protect you and never claimed to protect you from COVID either. That's not how vaccines work. What the vaccines do is make it so your body can fight the infection much easier leaving you with mild or no symptoms at all. Its main purpose is to keep you from getting severe disease and keep you out of the hospital. So I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with your signature. The vaccine works and it would've worked a whole lot better if the Qultists didn't push so much disinformation causing roughly 40% of the country to skip on the vaccine completely.
 
Covid cases reported yesterday are lower than they were a week ago in SF. Fingers crossed that last week was the peak. The city has remained pretty much fully open (I rode the bus to work every day throughout the surge, for example) throughout the omicron surge, so hopefully the virus is beginning to run out of hosts, even without significant distancing. A lot of people at my office (zero mech ventilation, minimal WFH) have either got the virus or have been directly exposed. I haven't tested, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had it asymptomatically.
 
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Covid cases reported yesterday are lower than they were a week ago in SF. Fingers crossed that last week was the peak. The city has remained pretty much fully open (I rode the bus to work every day throughout the surge, for example) throughout the omicron surge, so hopefully the virus is beginning to run out of hosts, even without significant distancing. A lot of people at my office (zero mech ventilation, minimal WFH) have either got the virus or have been directly exposed. I haven't tested, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had it asymptomatically.
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I'm wondering if MLK day was just a temporary drop in testing, or if it's really headed down.
 
It's hard to know where to post things these days. I'm posting this here, but I could easily have posted it in the funny memes, America, and what are you listening to threads as well.
 
Populuxe
It's hard to know where to post things these days. I'm posting this here, but I could easily have posted it in the funny memes, America, and what are you listening to threads as well.
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Very topical.

I do feel like the government had trouble explaining "hey, you got vaxxed and boosted to get to this point - where everyone can get covid and hopefully not clog the morgue". But this is where we wanted to be right - where the risks were mitigated enough that you could kinda sorta get back to normal?

That being said, folks I know have definitely started getting covid, and even when fully vaccinated it does not seem wonderful.
 
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Keef
I've been out of the loop for months now, completely ignoring the news and only following whatever guidelines my company requires. But unfortunately I do know that Covid is still a thing, because I've got a lot of good friends who have taken every precaution possible over the past two years and are now getting punished, being forced to take off work, not making money, risking their bills and their financial stability, because they - fully vaccinated, boosted, masked, quarantined-when-asked - had the audacity to catch a mild case of Whatever Variant from some asshole exercising their freedom in a grocery store.

I do not care about Covid anymore. I don't care. It doesn't exist to me. I did my part. If people get sick and die, it's not my problem. They made their choice. I literally cannot afford to follow these rules anymore and therefore I will not be getting tested and will not be taking off work and will not be getting punished for doing exactly what any responsible person should've done.

This is how leadership loses the support of good people, by punishing those same people rather than punishing those who were responsible for the mess. I did my part, I removed myself from the equation, when it came time I got a job, I re-entered the workforce at a higher level than the vast majority of people will ever achieve, and somehow I'm closer to bankruptcy than ever. I'm pissed off.
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Yeah, same. I've got my Moderna booster, and I've been going out with a new group of friends since Summer 2020, before we even had a vaccine. I've just stopped caring, especially with this latest variant.

If there's anyone you want to get angry at, then I would blame the Chinese government. They let it get out of control, purposely neglecting measures they had in place after the SARS outbreak of the early 00s. And by the way, Covid-19 is literally caused by SARS-CoV-2. SARS 2, basically. And the Chinese ignored it. I'm amazed that the world hasn't asked China to pay reparations - or otherwise done what Imperial-era Japan wished it could've done.

If we had known what the PRoC would've become, we never would've placed sanctions on Imperial Japan for their invasion of Manchuria, leading to our involvement in WWII. Maybe we should've left China to Imperial Japan, with everything that would entail. Also, Chiang Kai Shek was robbed in '49, Taiwan is the Republic of China, and Hong Kong similar deserves autonomy.

See, this is why Japan needs to hurry up and repeal Article 9.
 
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abcnews.go.com

Israel study: 4th vaccine shows limited results with omicron

An Israeli hospital says preliminary research indicates a fourth dose of the coronavirus vaccine provides only limited defense against the omicron variant that's raging around the world
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Today I learnt that because four doses of vaccine aren't much more effective than three at preventing hospitalisation and death, the vaccine is useless and people shouldn't take it at all. When asked why, antivactivists quote the above news story.

I need to stay off Twitter or at least learn to put the crazies on ignore. :ouch:
 
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UKMikey
abcnews.go.com

Israel study: 4th vaccine shows limited results with omicron

An Israeli hospital says preliminary research indicates a fourth dose of the coronavirus vaccine provides only limited defense against the omicron variant that's raging around the world
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

Today I learnt that because four doses of vaccine aren't much more effective than three at preventing hospitalisation and death, the vaccine is useless and people shouldn't take it at all. When asked why antivactivists quote the above news story.

I heecvto stay off Twitter or at least learn to put the crazies on ignore. :ouch:
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I'm a little concerned about a driver at the courier company I work at. He called in sick last week. He was sure he had covid, even though he never got tested. He called in the first few days just to check in a let us know how he's doing. His best friend called today to say he hasn't been able to get in touch with him since last Friday. I called him, too. No answer. I suggested to my boss we send someone around for a health and welfare check just to make sure everything is fine. No answer yet.
 
I'm curious what the federal government's motive is with sending a handful of tests to people's homes. They're antigen rapid tests so they are less effective at detecting Omicron and the results vary wildly depending on the manufacturer and when you take the test. It's also assumed that the people collecting the sample read the instructions first to ensure the best outcome for accurate results.

I foresee this leading to a bunch of people who have COVID thinking they don't have COVID.

It seems like a better use of resources would've been to use the manufacturing power to create additional PCR tests to deliver to testing sites. We're critically low on supplies and I'm sure just about every testing across the country is too. The money being used to buy and ship these tests could go towards boosting current testing sites and helping alleviate staffing shortages by paying people more.

Honestly though, at this point, I'm not sure what we can even do. So many leaders have let the people down for so long now that we're pretty much at the point of doing anything being a lost cause.
 
The UK has seen a rapid drop in case numbers this week, but still had 94,000 new cases yesterday.

Amazingly, however, this is not even enough to put the UK in the 'Top 25'* on 91-divoc.com, which is really quite staggering.

*daily new cases per million people for countries with over 1 million population
 
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Touring Mars
The UK has seen a rapid drop in case numbers this week, but still had 94,000 new cases yesterday.

Amazingly, however, this is not even enough to put the UK in the 'Top 25'* on 91-divoc.com, which is really quite staggering.

*daily new cases per million people for countries with over 1 million population
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I went to that site and cases appear to be spiking. Is this because of Omicron and should this be a cause for concern? Is the vaccine continuing to keep most people out of hospital?

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Yes, Omicron cases are spiking globally, but appear to have peaked in the UK for the moment.

I've been following cases versus hospitalisations in Scotland very closely and hospitalisations have stayed slightly under previous peak levels in spite of case numbers being massively higher (around three times higher than any previous peak), so the vaccines are doing an incredible job.

We are not out of the woods yet though... waning protection from vaccines coupled with the threat of new variants (and indeed Omicron itself is not one variant but two...) could result in a resurgence of hospitalisations, especially as the UK and devolved governments are planning to end all restrictions within days.
 
Dennisch
42427 positve tests yesterday. 242961 cases last week. Positivity rate of 36.8%. A rise of 77%.

Kids up to 11 years old are 131% up. Up to 18 78%.

Hospital numbers.

-18%
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Similar story in Norway. Number of infected people are increasing drastically and is higher than ever, but hospitalisations are still continuing to drop.
Let's hope it stays that way.
 
Touring Mars
I've been following cases versus hospitalisations in Scotland very closely and hospitalisations have stayed slightly under previous peak levels in spite of case numbers being massively higher (around three times higher than any previous peak), so the vaccines are doing an incredible job
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Combination of vaccines and a much less nasty variant is making it quite hard to judge the figures.

Hospitalisations are up noticably, but numbers requiring ventilation are only slightly up and possibly already peaked in Scotland, while having continued to decline in the UK overall (can't really see an Omicron wave on that chart). Deaths within 28 days of +ve test are up, but deaths with covid on certificate aren't up-to-date enough to see anything yet.

So I suspect the numbers of incidental findings are swamping the actual data currently - certainly for hospitalisations, but most likely for deaths too given the ventilation stats. At the very least, there are reasons to be hopeful that that is the case.
 
You know this is bad when you hit the option to see a Log curve but it ends looking like like an exponential graph*.

*Yes, I haven't seen maths since highschool so there's a fair chance I just said something completely stupid.

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Joey D
I'm curious what the federal government's motive is with sending a handful of tests to people's homes. They're antigen rapid tests so they are less effective at detecting Omicron and the results vary wildly depending on the manufacturer and when you take the test. It's also assumed that the people collecting the sample read the instructions first to ensure the best outcome for accurate results.

I foresee this leading to a bunch of people who have COVID thinking they don't have COVID.
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I got a big lecture from a friend the other day who is convinced he and his family had omicron despite all of them testing negative on such tests - because he assumed the tests wouldn't work for Omicron. He explained to me that he now has super-immunity and can take no precautions. Again... they all tested negative. I told him point blank that I didn't think he'd had it.
 
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Danoff
I got a big lecture from a friend the other day who is convinced he and his family had omicron despite all of them testing negative on such tests - because he assumed the tests wouldn't work for Omicron. He explained to me that he now has super-immunity and can take no precautions. Again... they all tested negative. I told him point blank that I didn't think he'd had it.
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It really depends on when they tested and what brand of test they used. These are small studies, but it does suggest that rapid tests won't pick up Omicron early on in the infection process whereas a PCR test would.
www.medrxiv.org

Discordant SARS-CoV-2 PCR and Rapid Antigen Test Results When Infectious: A December 2021 Occupational Case Series

The performance of Covid-19 diagnostic tests must continue to be reassessed with new variants of concern. The objective of this study was to describe the discordance in saliva SARS-CoV-2 PCR and nasal rapid antigen test results during the early infectious period. We identified a high-risk...
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Analytical sensitivity of seven SARS-CoV-2 antigen-detecting rapid tests for Omicron variant

The emergence of novel SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern (VOCs) requires investigation of a potential impact on diagnostic performance, such as Antigen-detecting rapid diagnostic tests (Ag-RDT). Although anecdotal reports have been circulating that Omicron is in principle detectable by Ag-RDTs, no...
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Even the FDA suggests that antigen test might be less effective at detecting Omicron:
www.fda.gov

SARS-CoV-2 Viral Mutations: Impact on COVID-19 Tests

Includes specific molecular tests impacted by viral mutations and recommendations for clinical laboratory staff and health care providers.
www.fda.gov www.fda.gov

I think it's reasonable to doubt the effectiveness of antigen tests in general since they're never going to be as effective as a PCR test. Omicron seems to have reduced the sensitivity of those antigen tests too, which is why I really question the government's thinking here. There are a ton of variables that will lead to inconsistent results and it's also assuming that the person taking the test is smart enough to a.) read the instructions and b.) not contaminate the sample. I think most of us know how people are so it stands to reason to think that neither of these things will be followed.

I can also understand why your friend thinks they have it even though they tested negative. State governments around the country have come out and said if you have symptoms, assume you have COVID. I get why they said it, tests are out of stock pretty much everywhere, but like a lot of things governments have done throughout the pandemic, it's leading to confusion.

He's probably wrong that he has super-immunity though and he's definitely wrong that he shouldn't take any precautions.
 

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