COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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It really depends on when they tested and what brand of test they used. These are small studies, but it does suggest that rapid tests won't pick up Omicron early on in the infection process whereas a PCR test would.

Even the FDA suggests that antigen test might be less effective at detecting Omicron:

I think it's reasonable to doubt the effectiveness of antigen tests in general since they're never going to be as effective as a PCR test. Omicron seems to have reduced the sensitivity of those antigen tests too, which is why I really question the government's thinking here. There are a ton of variables that will lead to inconsistent results and it's also assuming that the person taking the test is smart enough to a.) read the instructions and b.) not contaminate the sample. I think most of us know how people are so it stands to reason to think that neither of these things will be followed.

I can also understand why your friend thinks they have it even though they tested negative. State governments around the country have come out and said if you have symptoms, assume you have COVID. I get why they said it, tests are out of stock pretty much everywhere, but like a lot of things governments have done throughout the pandemic, it's leading to confusion.

He's probably wrong that he has super-immunity though and he's definitely wrong that he shouldn't take any precautions.
Yea, it's fine to be skeptical of the test and definitely important to be aware that you can test too early. That being said, assuming you have had it despite any corroboration is a bad move.

My point, overall, is that people are going to use test information badly no matter what. They'll test negative and still assume they have super immunity. They'll test negative and assume they have a free pass to spread the disease. But a fair number of those tests are going to help people understand what they're dealing with. I have friends who have covid right now, and the rapid tests helped them understand what they're dealing with quickly and isolate themselves and take it seriously.

There is absolutely no stopping the spread of omicron. It has gone unchecked. All we can do at this point is provide people with all of the tools we have to help keep themselves informed so that they can make the best possible decisions for themselves and their loved ones.

Early on, I took my kids in for all testing at a full testing center. These days I just do the rapid test - the ~36hr waiting period for the spit test is long enough that it's nearly useless at this point.
 
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Yea, it's fine to be skeptical of the test and definitely important to be aware that you can test too early. That being said, assuming you have had it despite any corroboration is a bad move.

My point, overall, is that people are going to use test information badly no matter what. They'll test negative and still assume they have super immunity. They'll test negative and assume they have a free pass to spread the disease. But a fair number of those tests are going to help people understand what they're dealing with. I have friends who have covid right now, and the rapid tests helped them understand what they're dealing with quickly and isolate themselves and take it seriously.

There is absolutely no stopping the spread of omicron. It has gone unchecked. All we can do at this point is provide people with all of the tools we have to help keep themselves informed so that they can make the best possible decisions for themselves and their loved ones.

Early on, I took my kids in for all testing at a full testing center. These days I just do the rapid test - the ~36hr waiting period for the spit test is long enough that it's nearly useless at this point.
I just am confused why so many people are testing now. Are that many people walking around sans mask/social distancing that they feel the need to test? Are they experiencing symptoms? Were they exposed to someone who tested positive?
 
I just am confused why so many people are testing now. Are that many people walking around sans mask/social distancing that they feel the need to test? Are they experiencing symptoms? Were they exposed to someone who tested positive?
Testing is the only way a big chunk of infections will ever be detected - and if you live with or visit someone who is more vulnerable or shielding, then testing could be the only way to tell if/when you or someone you live with is infectious.

The flipside is also true - testing is a great way to determine that you are not a COVID risk to others and being able to prove it.
 
I received an email this morning that a kid in one of my son's classes tested positive but since they won't tell you who (obviously) or even what class it was in and the school isn't contact tracing, we can only watch him for potential symptoms.
 
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I received an email this morning that a kid in one of my son's classes tested positive but since they won't tell you who (obviously) or even what class it was in and the school isn't contact tracing, we can only watch him for potential symptoms.
In my experience, usually the kids know who it was.
 
In my experience, usually the kids know who it was.
I texted him to let him know that someone tested positive.

His reply: "Did it say which class?"
Me: "No."
Him: "They don't talk about that stuff with us students."

As of that time, he didn't know who it was.
 
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I received an email this morning that a kid in one of my son's classes tested positive but since they won't tell you who (obviously) or even what class it was in and the school isn't contact tracing, we can only watch him for potential symptoms.
Similar has happened to my sister once this week already.

Now my sister is resigned to the concept that it is now a matter of when and not if COVID enters her household, with whatever ramifications that has for a single parent of an only child, and with both of her elderly parents being clinically vulnerable.

And this on the same day that ****features Boris Johnson scraps all remaining COVID measures in England (fortunately probably not going to be replicated here in Scotland, but still...)... scrapping masks in schools when there's 108,000 new cases in the UK today, egged on by his ****wit sycophant MPs, it was truly sickening to see.
 
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I texted him to let him know that someone tested positive.

His reply: "Did it say which class?"
Me: "No."
Him: "They don't talk about that stuff with us students."

As of that time, he didn't know who it was.
Well there's nearly no chance that the kid didn't tell their friends they tested positive. So if info doesn't start circulating soon, that kid has some loyal friends.
 
Now my sister is resigned to the concept that it is now a matter of when and not if COVID enters her household
My wife has been saying that for about a year now.

She told me yesterday that before Covid, they were doing about 2 or 3 trach and pegs a month. Now they're doing 3-4 each week - all unvaccinated patients.

She wants to make a public service announcement along the lines of the old "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" egg ad replaced with "this is your neck, this is your neck with a hole and tube in it". Apparently the secretions coming out of their neck holes is pretty nasty, too.
 
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She told me yesterday that before Covid, they were doing about 2 or 3 trach and pegs a month. Now they're doing 3-4 each week - all unvaccinated patients.
Someone walk me through how a trach helps with covid.
 
Now my sister is resigned to the concept that it is now a matter of when and not if COVID enters her household
That's a viewpoint I've seen a lot over here.

Which is concerning because to my knowledge, I still haven't caught it. I have found I run out of breath much faster in the last year or 2, esp. as someone who was a cross-country runner for years in my youth, so I often wonder if I had an asymptomatic case that still took a toll on me. But, could likely be a variety of other issues. /shrug
 
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Someone walk me through how a trach helps with covid.
She didn't go into detail but a possible explanation is:

The placement of the PEG tube along with tracheostomy in patients with COVID-19 and prolonged VDRF may expedite discharge planning and increase the availability of ICU beds for other patients.
 
I just received another email about a classmate of the other kid now...
 
Combination of vaccines and a much less nasty variant is making it quite hard to judge the figures.

Hospitalisations are up noticably, but numbers requiring ventilation are only slightly up and possibly already peaked in Scotland, while having continued to decline in the UK overall (can't really see an Omicron wave on that chart). Deaths within 28 days of +ve test are up, but deaths with covid on certificate aren't up-to-date enough to see anything yet.

So I suspect the numbers of incidental findings are swamping the actual data currently - certainly for hospitalisations, but most likely for deaths too given the ventilation stats. At the very least, there are reasons to be hopeful that that is the case.
And maybe we'll get some data on that at some point...

'Coincidental' Covid deaths on the rise​

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Nick Triggle
Health Correspondent
One of the consequences of seeing so much infection, so much spread of the virus, is that we're seeing a growing number of what are called "coincidental deaths".
This is where people test have tested positive but they haven't been sick with the virus.
Then they have died within 28 days of that positive test but it is nothing to do with the positive test and we're beginning to see more of this.
I think the Office of National Statistics is going to have a look at this so we have a real idea of just how many people are dying due to the virus.
(from today's BBC live feed at 18:15)
 
Why would someone, for example the Republican president of the Utah State Senate, test positive for COVID-19 twice and announce they have tested negative (after acknowledging that they tested positive and walking that back as a joke to see if people were paying attention) before attending Senate session maskless?
 
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She didn't go into detail but a possible explanation is:

My wife works with ventilators (partly), so I asked her. She says that long term endotracheal intubation comes with damage to the throat/vocal chords, increased risk, and an inability of the patient to speak. So for patients that need longer term ventilation, that procedure would be helpful.
 
Do they require proof of residence? People could be ordering multiple and then just wait at the mailbox and steal from others.
From what little I have read, they seem to have failed to account for apartments, suites, or other multiple resident locations, which would really be par for the course.
 
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Deliberately catching the virus to secure a recove pass for access to venues sounds more like Darwin Award material than Cain Award to me. Putting the "ass" in "Asonance"...
 
I'm a little concerned about a driver at the courier company I work at. He called in sick last week. He was sure he had covid, even though he never got tested. He called in the first few days just to check in a let us know how he's doing. His best friend called today to say he hasn't been able to get in touch with him since last Friday. I called him, too. No answer. I suggested to my boss we send someone around for a health and welfare check just to make sure everything is fine. No answer yet.
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The boss went by this morning. No answer. The landlord came out and was also concerned. His car was in the parking lot, hadn't been moved in at least a week. So the landlord called the police and requested a wellness check. Miraculously, he was still alive but very sick. He finally started calling and texting friends to let them know he wasn't dead yet. While I'm thankful he's still alive, this is all on him because he never did get his shots. He always did love his conspiracy theories, and now it looks like one of them is trying to kill him
 
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So, a friend of a colleague of mine got covid, for the second time (you'll see the irony of this part later).

And now, because he and his wife are both positive, they decided to deliberately have their children close (two kids) so that they also get covid.
"This way, they'll also get immune and we stay in isolation just once, all together."

I mean, how stupid can you be?
 
Staggering to see that some people think that my concerns for the safety of my family, and the possibility of that being affected by corrupt populist politicians trying to save their own jobs, is considered funny by some people...

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Staggering to see that some people think that my concerns for the safety of my family, and the possibility of that being affected by corrupt populist politicians trying to save their own jobs, is considered funny by some people...

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Imagine not posting or doing anything on the site for 4-5 months only to make an appearance to be a callous, insensitive, uh..member.

What would @TexRex say? COVIDiocy is a mental illness or something.
 
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