COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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Man. Hope you and Bronny can both get this out of your systems quickly and get back to your lives.

Hopefully you have a local health contact or GP clinic on speeddial.
 
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For anyone who has had Covid too, can you also sleep a ridiculous long time now that it's over?

It has now been 2 weeks since the worst days and more than a week without noticeable symptoms but still I sleep 10 hours minimum every night if I don't set my alarm and I fall asleep without ever feeling myself getting tired.

Normally I would not be able to sleep that long and just go to sleep the next night but now, it's just ridiculous. And it's not that I'm tired or exhausted during the day, I just unlocked a whole new level of sleeping for myself that I've never had before.
 
Dennisch
For anyone who has had Covid too, can you also sleep a ridiculous long time now that it's over?

It has now been 2 weeks since the worst days and more than a week without noticeable symptoms but still I sleep 10 hours minimum every night if I don't set my alarm and I fall asleep without ever feeling myself getting tired.
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At first, all the sleep felt like a feature, not a bug.

As I got better, tested negative, and more restless, I needed a little less sleep but still wanted a midday nap. I felt somewhat lethargic for about two weeks, varying a little in motivation from day to day.
 
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I'm fully back where I was before Covid. Did my weekly bike ride to my buddy last night, and where last week my legs gave up half way and I felt like falling off my bicycle, yesterday I managed to keep the legs going for the full distance, and I even took the longer scenic route.
 
Quick update on the Covid situation at home.

I'm fine and only felt a little off for a day or two and now back at work.
My wife is also fine but felt off for probably an extra day, she still gets a positive result though when testing which somewhat limits what her carers can do during the day with her for the few hours they are there while I'm at work.

All an all though we are pretty much back to normal.
 
There's a debate raging about the idea that SARS-CoV-2 infections - and esp. repeat infections - give rise to long-lasting damage and depletion of T and B cells, which effectively regulate the immune system. While this is still a matter of uncertainty and controversy, it does ring a few alarm bells, not least as there seems to be a growing number of people suffering from either Long Covid or, as is the case for me and several friends, an increase in colds and other bugs in the wake of a mild bout of Covid.

The main concern is that with Covid infections still rampant and public health measures against Covid being dropped globally (and have been non-existent in many countries since the start of the year), the population at large is in a state of "Immune Dysregulation", leaving people more susceptible to new infections.

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This shouldn't be confused with another highly controversial term, "Immunity Debt".

This is a concept that, while not without some scientific merit, has been relentlessly pushed by anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers etc - the idea that people are now more susceptible to other infections because of Covid health measures that reduced transmission of all other viruses.

The growing observation that people are succumbing to more and more infections and/or more severe infections post-Covid is claimed by both camps, but they are really two opposite sides of the same coin. Both seem to agree that this is actually happening, but one side ("Immunity Debt") say it's the result of wearing masks and avoiding social contact etc., while the other ("Immune Dysregulation") are basically saying the polar opposite i.e. increased or repeated exposure to SARS-CoV-2 is the reason why other viruses (e.g. flu, RSV) are getting worse.

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While the "Immunity Debt" camp are pretty much the same crowd as before (and who have an absymally bad track record when it comes to virtually all aspects of the pandemic thus far), the "Immune Dysregulation" issue has split the other side of the debate seemingly down the middle, though at least it is (for now) predominately a genuine scientific debate.

One thing is for sure, however, and that is that the main proponents of the 'Immune Dysregulation' hypothesis sure as hell do not want to be right... meanwhile, in common with many of the most sensible and reliable commentators on the pandemic that I've encountered thus far, the proponents of the 'Immune Dysregulation' hypothesis contend that we should be doing much, much more to improve air quality standards in public places, esp. schools, and continuing to observe more rigorous public hygiene measures.
 
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Had my Pfizer variant booster on Saturday morning. I had zero side effects from the jabs I'd received previously but this time I did get a fever for a few hours the next day. Thankfully some paracetamol and a long nap took care of most of the period of feverishness.
 
Joey D
What an absolute asshat:
www.cnn.com

DeSantis targets Covid vaccine manufacturers and CDC in latest anti-vaccine moves | CNN Politics

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday asked his state's Supreme Court to green-light an investigation of "any and all wrongdoing in Florida with respect to Covid-19 vaccines," his latest move to cast doubt on the vaccines' effectiveness and amplify fears about side effects.
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People are dying because of **** like this. But at least his 2024 presidential prospects are good, amirite?
 
The "director" of WHO is saying the current "spike" in China is not in relation to the relaxation of covid rules.
Yet China is the one that has that zero covid rule or "had".
Can it be explained how that can be true unless there is another "variant" that china has made that didn't tell the world yet?
 
My understanding is that it was spreading pretty quickly anyway. Correlation, not causation. Relaxing rules would have accelerated the spread, but didn't start it.
 
The FT and a slew of other reputable sources are reporting a rare leak of 'official' Covid data from China, where health officials have seemingly reported that China has seen some 250 million Covid infections in December alone, peaking at 37 million on Tuesday this week alone.

Statistics on Covid in China have always been frankly ludicrous, with the Chinese government resorting to every trick in the book - (from having ridiculous definitions of what a 'case' is, to flat out lying about how many people have died either as a result of Covid itself or their extreme lockdown measures) - to obfuscate and diminish the impact of Covid in China.

Not any more. The cat is well and truly out of the bag now though, and ever since the CCP announced the abandonment of their 'zero Covid' policy, it has become impossible to hide the true extent of Covid in China in the last few weeks.

Another report (which was quickly censored) showed that one city in China is reporting half a million new cases a day. And yet official figures published by China report a ridiculous 4,103 new cases nationwide and zero deaths... it would be laughable it wasn't so tragic.
 
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In a very small anecdotal setting, we were communicating with a Chinese company for work and they told us last week there would be a delay in getting stuff done because 50% of the company was off work with covid.
 
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The FT and a slew of other reputable sources are reporting a rare leak of 'official' Covid data from China, where health officials have seemingly reported that China has seen some 250 million Covid infections in December alone, peaking at 37 million on Tuesday this week alone.

Statistics on Covid in China have always been frankly ludicrous, with the Chinese government resorting to every trick in the book - (from having ridiculous definitions of what a 'case' is, to flat out lying about how many people have died either as a result of Covid itself or their extreme lockdown measures) - to obfuscate and diminish the impact of Covid in China.

Not any more. The cat is well and truly out of the bag now though, and ever since the CCP announced the abandonment of their 'zero Covid' policy, it has become impossible to hide the true extent of Covid in China in the last few weeks.

Another report (which was quickly censored) showed that one city in China is reporting half a million new cases a day. And yet official figures published by China report a ridiculous 4,103 new cases nationwide and zero deaths... it would be laughable it wasn't so tragic.
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I believe that the US is now requiring negative tests from China in order to enter our country. I truly wonder if Xi will face any sort of consequences for this. My guess is no, because unlike other strongmen countries, he seems to be able to wield his power effectively.
 
How to tell the world that you haven't learned a goddamn thing.

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The US would be better placed worrying about new variants emerging within its own population than worrying about potential new variants coming in from overseas.

Testing people coming from China (or anywhere else for that matter) will very likely not prevent the eventual entry of any specific variant into the country in the long run anyway, and the major variant (BF.7) in China right now is already in the US, so the point of testing incoming travellers from China is not clear.

Keeping an eye on new variants is important globally, but ultimately there's not a great deal any one country can do to stop new variants coming into existence or breaching their borders. As such, the most sensible approach to tackling all variants of SARS-CoV-2 is in implementing basic public hygiene measures and keeping vaccination and booster rates as high as possible.
 
I still think it's worth testing travelers from China. Yes, the BF.7 variant is the primary variant in China at the moment, but given the CCP's less-than-trustworthy antics, there could be a new variant emerging that we haven't been informed of. China also has a massive population, and one figure I read the other day said that given the infection rate, the entire population could be infected in 40 days. That dramatically increases the likelihood of a mutation. In addition, with that many people becoming infected, it very well could increase the spread in countries where the vaccine rollout has been poor especially since international travel is common in China.

I mean, I feel for the Chinese people since their government basically imprisoned them, gave them worthless vaccines, and now is just letting them die left and right. I get that people with the means want to get out of the country too, but at the same time, the world did such a poor job containing the initial outbreak that we really should've learned our lesson.

Also, given the vaccination rate for the bivalent formulation is pretty low (in the US at least), we're really just sitting on another timebomb. I think something like less than 35% of the US population has the updated booster making 65% of the population essentially unvaccinated. Maybe it's better in other countries (at least, I hope it is).
 
My father contracted covid and tested positive today. Despite the fact he has gotten 4 vaccine shots, he still has comorbidities so the fact he's just working (WFH), acting like nothing is wrong. I fear I will finally end up getting it because of this so I have to keep my distance.
 
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My father contracted covid and tested positive today. Despite the fact he has gotten 4 vaccine shots, he still has comorbidities so the fact he's just working (WFH), acting like nothing is wrong. I fear I will finally end up getting it because of this so I have to keep my distance.
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I was concerned when I got it, but I kept my distance from my wife and she didn't catch it. It sounds like your father and yourself are sensible and taking good precautions, so that should give you the best chance of avoiding it :).
 
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I was concerned when I got it, but I kept my distance from my wife and she didn't catch it. It sounds like your father and yourself are sensible and taking good precautions, so that should give you the best chance of avoiding it :).
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Better part is that I will be in a completely separate house next week cat-sitting so I shouldn't have much issue completely avoiding him (sadly).
 
My whole family got it (again). 20 Month old dealt with it really well, my wife got pretty sick but kept it together, our 5 month old has been really unwell and very irritable; and I was coughing for 2 days, then out of action completely for 24 hours.

We are all on the uptick now, but it’s frustrating to know that this is the second, of what will likely be many covid infections.
 
Wanted to provide a quick update:

My mother came down with something (she had Covid a few months ago) but she is treating it as if we all have Covid so I guess we all have Covid.

I had issues sleeping Friday night. I kept alternating between too hot and too cold despite getting about 12 hours of interrupted sleep.

This morning I now notice that my sense of smell is gone. While I am still congested, I should be able to detect sharp scents like pepper or detergent. I am unable to do either. I don't feel fatigued or flush but my cough hasn't gone away yet.
 

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