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COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)
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Appears to be mostly circulated in the conservative blogosphere...looking for the deus ex machina. I mean...I hope they're right! But something tells me that its a little optimistic.
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I don't want to rude but Europe's response to this crisis has been sub-par if I'm honest. The amount of cases have increased dramatically compared to other continents, even North America. They should've shut all the borders as soon as it happened.
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LOL, that's just because here in Europe we do a LOT more tests than in most other places. You can only have as many cases as you have tests, the rest goes unnoticed.
Also the pandemic is going to explode like a nuke in the US in the coming weeks, now that's an absolute certainty.
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Yes - it's been below what it should have been for sure. However, the response in the US has been as bad - & with ample warning from Europe about what was going to happen. Unfortunately, I think that is going to become apparent over the next 2 weeks as the cases in the US explode. The United States (& Canada) are huge land masses, so there are most likely areas where the virus will not reach for a long time ... & with appropriate measures, not at all - but the big population centres are going to see a big increase in cases over the next few days .
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Peru is now on 145 confirmed cases, now we all are on curfew from 8:00 pm to 5:00 am since today, and Peru will have southamerica's 1st COVID-19-specific-treatment hospital (although a bit further from the center but still!!). Honestly, Kudos to our president, police, army, doctors and everyone else who is working to keep the country running!! ♥ 
Local periodists must feel like gta characters on an unfinished map mod lol
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Italy says 99% of its coronavirus deaths had previous medical conditions; only 3 have died with no underlying health issues.
I have to wonder though if it's a bit premature to claim 99% who died had previous concerns, when this says they've only looked at 18% of the total fatalities. Those of you more versed in this field though, can share if this an acceptable sample size to claim such a figure, or are more examinations needed?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
I have to wonder though if it's a bit premature to claim 99% who died had previous concerns, when this says they've only looked at 18% of the total fatalities. Those of you more versed in this field though, can share if this an acceptable sample size to claim such a figure, or are more examinations needed?
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The future's market went up a little after this rumor broke. I am not sure if the market believes this guy. As I write this the DOW futures are down 573 points.
Here is that FOX news report
I hope this guy isn't full of crap.
It has been nearly impossible to get tested everywhere in the US. Today, officially there are only 10 people infected in Houston TX, yeah right. They are starting to set up drive thru testing centers, but they will only test sick people.
As more people are tested the number of infected is bound to skyrocket. And that won't even include those who were infected and didn't get sick enough to get tested.
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The article says 75% had high blood pressure as a medical condition. In the current era, the world is full of people with high blood pressure, so that's not particularly comforting. However, the article says only 25% had only preexisting condition, and that includes all conditions, so hopefully the issue with high blood pressure is not actually a significant one.
I think the whole world is hoping that slow down in increase in cases is correct. Italy has been in lockdown long enough now for there to be a slowdown pattern to emerge over the next few days.
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Not sure where you've been seeing anything that has to do with the conservative side. Both Indian & Australian tests are claiming it's worked for the first few tried cases.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...t-rajasthan-official/articleshow/74653762.cms
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...to-fight-coronavirus/articleshow/74660999.cms
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Does he seem credible to you? There's somehting very odd about his presentation. It would be a bit of a medical miracle it it were true, no?
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I posted a message about this two days ago:
The biologist in France that Fox News is referring to is Didier Raoult. He appears to be both an authority in his field and controversial among his peers. He's part of the COVID-19 scientific college that advice french government, but complain in an interview (link in french, or google translated) that they weren't listening him at all.
Regarding Chloroquine, Raoult himself says it has already been successfully used by Dr Zhong Nanshan in China and is recommended in Saudi Arabia. I heard the former french health minister that managed the H1N1 crisis that the substance is cheap to produce. But, there's a catch: it is not considered safe, and can damage eyes and even kill you.
Edit: France extended test around this, and i guess many other countries.
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Hello everyone, today the controlled trial of 330 patients of the anti-arthritis drug Tocilizumab has started here in Italy to combat the respiratory problem that causes coronavirus.
In short, the drug does not act against the virus but against one of the consequences of the virus.
The use of this drug started in a hospital in Naples, with encouraging results.We hope well.
In short, the drug does not act against the virus but against one of the consequences of the virus.
The use of this drug started in a hospital in Naples, with encouraging results.We hope well.
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RTE: Thousands attend Covid-19 prayer session in Bangladesh
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0319/1124039-bangladesh-coronavirus/
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0319/1124039-bangladesh-coronavirus/
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We've conducted 56,000 tests, or roughly 0.85 per thousand population - 10% of those yesterday. South Korea, Italy, and China are ahead of us, and that's about it. Edit: Russia too (~1 per thousand). UAE tops the per capita rankings, but has only conducted 120 tests.
Japan has tested 14,000, or roughly 0.1 per thousand. The USA has conducted 5 tests per million.
It's a weird narrative that the UK isn't testing as many people as other countries.
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...The cynical side in me thinks that all these unprecedented responses to the coronavirus threat, including the accelerated testing for vaccines and treatment drugs, is because the most "threatened" demographic is older men past the 50s and 60s with underlying health issues. Which pretty much means almost every CEO, politician, "shakers and movers" of every industry are in the cross hairs.
Yesterday I joined the maddened crowd and bought myself something I had never bought before in my entire life... a couple of cans of spam. I wonder how they'll taste. Plus some TP, too. Although, I was running out so that couldn't be helped.
Yesterday I joined the maddened crowd and bought myself something I had never bought before in my entire life... a couple of cans of spam. I wonder how they'll taste. Plus some TP, too. Although, I was running out so that couldn't be helped.
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...I wasn't being serious, though.
But as we're here.... Seeing how politicians are at a greater risk of contracting this virus, I couldn't help but think about the possibility. HIV and TB, not to mention Ebola plus a whole host of others, have been killing untold number of people worldwide, yet I don't quite remember seeing such a concerted effort from the bigwigs to stamp them out (seemingly) no matter the cost. I know it's a baseless conspiracy talk, but if I don't do something to distract myself, I'll probably go crazy from the 24-hour news cycle I've been subjecting to myself for the past couple of weeks....
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Other countries are doing the same thing too. Our testing rate is pretty high by comparison to most countries, which suggests that we are operating to a high capacity.
No, this would be a waste of time and resources. There is not only no point in testing people who are showing no symptoms and have no reason to think they could have been exposed (beyond being in public), it's counter-productive. You waste reagents and lab time chasing down nothing, and there's bound to be a very high false positive and false negative rate at this point in time (even without sample contamination from doing too many tests). You'd also need to retest everyone who's negative every five days to see if they've become positive in the interim.
It's best to test people who meet the diagnostic criteria for COVID-19, are in a high-risk group, or have at least one person already testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 within their immediate social or work circles. That targets the people most likely to have contracted COVID-19 or most likely to require a higher level of medical intervention for their survival.
At present I've not seen a single population outside of Wuhan with more than 0.15% of people infected. We've tested 0.1% of the population, and only around 2% of those tests were positive - and we rank very highly for raw test counts and test per capita, but relatively low for confirmed cases per capita and deaths per capita. I think we're doing enough, without wasting resources.
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I saw it, but it has little merit - we're talking about different types of tests for different organisms, for different purposes and at entirely different orders of magnitude. SARS-CoV-2 testing numbers are already somewhere in the region of 50 times higher than the 2009 E.coli outbreak.
The chart shared by @UKMikey shows that in tests per capita we're ahead of all but countries with small populations (UAE has only conducted 100 tests, but leads the way with 12 per thousand), and those with significant outbreaks (Italy), plus South Korea which had a pretty major initial response. The data plot that's a roll of a mouse-wheel below it puts our testing into context:
In addition there's the raw test count (the UK is that orange dot halfway between Canada and the USA; unsure why it isn't labelled properly)
Note that both are log plots - each line is 10 times higher than the previous line. The UK has conducted an order of magnitude more tests than Netherlands, Switzerland, or Belgium, and about 7-8 times higher than France. Per capita it's at least the equal - and most of the time a solid factor of 4-8 times higher - of any country with similar development with the exception of Italy.
Our testing response seems to be on the high side by most metrics - above the normal lines on both charts.
The big weird is Germany. I don't know how many tests Germany has done, because it seems not to share that data - possibly because it's up to each of the country's states to manage and report, not the federal government. However, the national laboratory of Germany seems to claim it can conduct up to 12,000 tests per day. By comparison, the UK conducted 6,000 on Tuesday. I think Boris has made some natterings about 25,000 per day as a target; whether or not that runs into the issues I mentioned with wasting time and resources on highly unlikely cases, I don't know because I don't know what an appropriate number is.
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A message from Tescos to UK buyers:
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https://digitalcontent.api.tesco.co...6.1989524413.1584625979-1891711856.1584625978
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No they won't. Your local chain franchises are owned by "mom and pop" too in many cases. And even if they aren't, they're not doing great.
Dance with the one that brought you. If you want to buy something, buy from the ones you did before. They're your business relationship.
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