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Do you prefer racing in CRAP pCARS with Penalties on or off?

  • Penalties On

    Votes: 57 75.0%
  • Penalties Off

    Votes: 19 25.0%

  • Total voters
    76
  • Poll closed .
Thanks for organising what was some excellent racing last night @admoo. It was a great turnout with a full room for most races and more waiting to get in. Well done.

I just want to make a couple of general points about how I'd like us to be running these in the future to make them fit in with the CRAP ethos. This is just a reminder to everyone not a criticism of last night which was fantastic. Many of the newer CRAP members won't be aware of this as I haven't had cause to post anything about them in this thread.

Points

When we do mini series (or even full series) with points like last night can we please give points to all positions. I know it's more work especially recording the result (2 screenshots each race for full lobby races). It's just the way we have always run points scoring events in CRAP. It is more inclusive to all participants and it keeps all racing meaningful and involved right up to the end.

Flags and penalties

I think we should generally turn them off for racing. They aren't working properly yet and it's something that is incredibly difficult to code fairly and correctly. We rely on each driver's own sporting fair play by self stewarding. Slow down when cutting and gaining time, let others repass where position gained from a mistaken cut or unreasonable bump pass.

Racers who flout any lack of penalties (eg consistent corner cutting) aren't welcome but there wasn't any of that last night that I saw. Everyone drove really well and any accidents were dealt with in a grown up manner with polite discussion and apologies where necessary.

We don't need the frustrations of the penalty system. When a corner is cut to avoid an accident or a mistake is made it's very difficult for a computer to correctly make a decision and SMS haven't got it quite right yet. Of course we could say don't make mistakes but normally when a mistake is made there is already time loss incurred. We can self steward our own driving. That should be enough. I'm happy to discuss it though.

Fruity Language

This is a reminder to all (me included) that not everyone wants to hear us swearing into the mics. Please keep the bad language to a minimum. It wasn't bad last night but I want to mention it now to think of others. We have actually had a vicar as a CRAP member in the past. Now I'm not expecting choirboys and girls and I know it just pops out sometimes (fnarr, fnarr, ooh err missus) but let's try and keep it relatively expletive free.

Thanks to all for reading.

Well done again Ad.
 
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All sound good john points flags and screenshots aslo!
Not used to the amount in lobby as there is usually only about 6-8 people in lobby and my point system usually is sufficient.
Do you have a points system for full 16?
I'm sure can come up with 1.
Will be putting up line up for tonight shortly.
Tonight can be a trail run ! :cheers: Looking forward to more racing!

P.s 2 screenshots is that 1 quially 1 race end
 
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I joined the first 2 races and they were quite full. Had to leave but came back for the final 2 only to not be able to get in as the lobby was full! Managed to get a spot for the last race round Laguna seca. Epic race in the pro cars with a full grid of clean drivers :gtpflag:
 
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All sound good john points flags and screenshots aslo!
Not used to the amount in lobby as there is usually only about 6-8 people in lobby and my point system usually is sufficient.
Do you have a points system for full 16?
I'm sure can come up with 1.
Will be putting up line up for tonight shortly.
Tonight can be a trail run ! :cheers: Looking forward to more racing!

P.s 2 screenshots is that 1 quially 1 race end

I just mean to get all of the result you have to press the triangle on the result screen, scroll up, press the share button for photo and then scroll down for the lower finishers and capture another screenshot (I have my share button set up to take a screenshot with a single press). Also saving the replay in the process. Just about enough time to do all that before the timer runs out.

Here's an idea for points. Revise as you see fit. Up to you mate. Posting the race results screenshots is enough extra work already :)

1st: 25
2nd: 20
3rd: 17
4th: 14
5th: 12
6th: 10
7th: 9
8th: 8
9th: 7
10th: 6
11th: 5
12th: 4
13th: 3
14th: 2
15th: 1
16th: 0
 
Just a thought.

Admoo is going to run a tribute tonight to Jules Bianchi who very sadly passed away last night. I won't be on tonight until much later if at all but would like to watch a replay if someone can remember to record it.

RIP Jules.

I'll be hosting the parade tonight. Everyone is welcome. Just send me a message on PSN for an invite (KKj_10). Will be handing over to @admoo before 8 o'clock.
 
I've got the parade lap saved. Sorting it now along with some other highlights from tonight.

I didn't dissapear! Told you it was my last race. Lol.Tired of you trying to take me on the last lap! :lol:
 
Sorry I ran off, I was summoned by the other half to make some dinner (in her defense it was 8:45) and after a few beers I was losing concentration faster than I could drive!

Good first couple of races though, although those Sierras around Nur was a right nightmare!
 
I've got the parade lap saved. Sorting it now along with some other highlights from tonight.

I didn't dissapear! Told you it was my last race. Lol.Tired of you trying to take me on the last lap! :lol:
Lol I meant from my replay of spa :bowdown::banghead:
 
I've missed all the fun but I hope to make amends this week.

Missed last night too. Had a horrid time the night before though. Been busy lately and its wrecking my race time. Noticed you have not been on much Spliffy. Hope to catch you soon buddy. Really fancied last night as well. Hope to get on tonight though. @admoo, great job setting these races up. Yer no a bad spud.;) @john&admo, A thought for mic and language during races........... When i played GT online the way the host done it was there was a chat room to set up before the race but once set up the mics were turned off for the race. Not dictating what to do but it worked back in the old days. :)I remember back when I played championship sprint and had to leave the house and go to the arcade to play cpu games. We never had it so good. :lol:
 
Here's proof of the concertina effect of braking on first corners. It also shows I wasn't the culprit for the first corner crash on Friday night ;)

I know it's difficult getting the braking right on a first corner for 2 main reasons.

1 The braking speed is always lower and so there's always confusion over where to brake. Erring on the side of caution is normally the best option as evidenced by my fantastic overtaking at the second chicane.

2 When you're right behind someone else it's difficult to see when the cars in front of the car in front of you are braking.

Anyway it reminded me of that grand prix a few years ago involving Liuzzi....



I might be on around 10pm UK tonight or when wifey goes to bed.
 
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