Creation vs. Evolution
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So was your father a Catholic? Had your heard of Jesus Christ by the time you were 25? Had you also heard of Joseph Smith, Lord Vishnu, Hephaestus, Osiris, Serapis, Re, Anuket, or Amon?
Did you know more about Christianity than you did about the aboriginal kangaroo creation myth? Are you getting my point yet?
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I knew you were going to try to spin this into somekind of thing about my parents getting me into. Just so you know, my father is AGAINST me going to the church that I go to and that I'm involved as I am.
My parents DID NOT send me to church or anything like that. They had as much as an effect on my spiritual choice as they did on my career choice. Being that they were supportive in whatever I chose.
BTW, if you live in what would be classified as "mainstream" America and hadn't heard of Jesus when you're 25, you're lying.
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Ok, so you were exposed (not by your parents but by society) to Christianity far more than any other religion and so were predisposed to choose that one.
BTW - how did you like that bit about feasting on the blood and flesh of the prophet? I as particularly proud of that characterization.
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Please, I went to a JEWISH temple for a good porsion of my teenage years. I could recite the main prayer and was on a first name basis with the rabi. Christ was literally a banned word in that place.
Before I was saved, I believed that any and all religions could be right and there wasn't any point in chosing one. Then God convicted me.
Don't try to prepackage and stereotype my faith.
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So you're telling me then that you were not predisposed to picking ANY religion over any other. So you were just as exposed to and likely to choose the Australian Aboriginal faith as your were Christianity? You've read up on ancient Egyptian and Greek beliefs and you've investigated hinduism and meditated in an attempt to achieve nirvana...
Don't try to tell me that you were objective about this.
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No I never considered those religions. Why? Because they are obviously intrinsically flawed. Many required human sacrifice. My point is that while I might not have been "objective" as you say, I was certainly not, "Predisposed" to christianity.
I mean, you were foolish enough to post that christians believe Jesus was a prophet. Obviously, you're not being as objective as you say I should be.
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No? I don't think anyone in America isn't predisposed to Christianity over the vast majority of religions.
You don't believe he was God (or a god), he fits the description of prophet in my book, but what would you want me to call him? A demi-god?
Demi-God:
1. A male being, often the offspring of a god and a mortal, who has some but not all of the powers of a god.
Ok, I'll go with demi-god. That sounds even LESS credible.
He speaks as though any form of Christianity isn't!
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Jesus is God. 100% man and 100% God. Yes, Mary was his mother but the Holy Ghost was his father. Meh, I seriously doubt you would get it since it would come down to a scientific analysis of spirtual things. This of course is pointless.
Anyway, I'm a christian by my choice. I had more then enough chances to go to other religions, but didn't. Again, you won't understand that.
So, are we going to talk about creation again anytime soon.
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Son of God with a human mother = demi-God. Christians do not believe Jesus had all the powers God has, so I think it fits the description quite well.
...because you were predisposed. I understand that you're christian by choice. I'm not claiming that anyone drug you in kicking and screaming and brainwashed you.
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So you're saying it's like an alcoholic gene or a gene that predisposes you to cancer? That just because it was exposed to me, along with other things, that it was inevitable that I chose Christ? Interesting, especially considering you've chosen to not stick to any choice.
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So, when Christains refer to "God", they are actually referring to Jesus Christ?
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No. I'm saying that of the religions out there you were more likely to choose Christianity than many others simply because you were exposed to it more. There are tribes in Africa that have complex religions that have been believed for probably thousands of years which you have not been exposed to - making you far less likely to choose that religion.
I'm saying that you didn't give all religions a fair evaluation before you decided upon one.
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All the more reason why people don't give other religions a fair shot. How can you know that your religion is the One True religion if you don't even investigate the other religions out there?
(FSM excluded, we all know that the One True Monster is our Savor)
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Depends on the denomination. As a follower of the Apostolic faith, I believe in Oneness. Simply meaning there is one God and three manifestations. Some christians believe in three seperate persons in the godhead.
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...And, if a person is at least educated, it is impossible for he/she to have not heard of the Titans, Zeus, Ra, Hades, and Vishnu.
