Dad calls cops on son, cops kill son

  • Thread starter NLxAROSA
  • 113 comments
  • 3,207 views
^I feel sorry for the dad as he will have to live withthe choice he made.
My take is a euro one. Seeing only the picture, I don't see the need for 7 shots up the driver cabine. Especially if the police knew it was a family matter. And especially after the supervisor called to back up so it could cool down.

But hey in a world of Massive surveillance, secret courts, secret interpretation of laws, secret evidence, militarization of police, largest prison population, spy drones, domestic spies, indefinite detention without charge or trial, foreign CIA Holding houses and abductions , propaganda media, arrest of journalist, endless wars, etc....
this is just a sad story in between which could have ended differently.


What would have happend if nobody jumped the gun? the guy would have bought some cigerattes, returns home, gets a slap by his Dad. Case closed.


I will never understand the US in that regard. You call the cops so quickly, even on family, entierly knowing how the cops and your whole jurisdictional system is screwed.
In the US I would have in prison with 14. Probably younger with the sick stuff I hear from some school in the US.

Farting get you suspended in school, talking back to your teacher can get you expelled. Cops come pick you up for stuff like that.
Last I read was a 8 year old boy going in trial, because the played doctor with a girl. Played !! That is ****** normal.

First year in Kindergarten I was in the toilets with a girl kissing and holding hands.

lost myself in a bit of a rant so */rant
 
The way you worded the title is a bit like they did it on purpose.

The kid stole his dads car, he was unlicensed, the cops tried to stop him, the kid didnt stop when ordered to and tried to ram the cops.
How is not any different from the kid that was shot that was holding the fake gun?

Both ignored orders,

But this kid had a confirmed weapon which is the car and he tried to use it.
 
Well, they say smoking seriously damages your health!

edit: Reminds me of that woman in Washington, shot dead simply to stop the car.
 
I think I agree with ibo here. Dad blames the cops for shooting his son over a pack of cigarettes, but has no problem calling the cops on his overheated son for the same reason, while knowing how the police system in the US works.
 
Tragic really, the dad shouldn't have called the cops ok but the cops shouldn't have killed a boy, what is wrong with them?
 
http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...otsuite&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=kcci

Not sure if video is back up and working. It's gone up and down since I initially saw it. Kid didn't attempt to ram anyone, he did. If he hadn't been shot, he would've been spending a loooong time in jail followed by living the life of a convicted felon. He got the easy way out. Going to prison for several years knowing that it's just because you're an impulsive idiot would've eaten him alive.
 
Grayfox
The way you worded the title is a bit like they did it on purpose.

The kid stole his dads car, he was unlicensed, the cops tried to stop him, the kid didnt stop when ordered to and tried to ram the cops.
How is not any different from the kid that was shot that was holding the fake gun?

Both ignored orders,

But this kid had a confirmed weapon which is the car and he tried to use it.
Click to expand...
PERFECT reply.
 
What an asshole, backed straight into a cop car and seriously endangered some lives.

Won't be missed.
 
I don't really see a problem with it, the police have a right to defend themselves just like anybody else.
 
BAN ALL THE GUNS
/s

Seriously though, there have been dozens of cases similar to this one where cops just unload their weapons into peoples cars. Yes the kid who was involved in this rammed a cop and had a gun, but really the kid didn't need to be shot.

Cops should go through more advanced training on using guns and the consequences that they have when used.
 
So, what would have happened to my son if we lived in America.

Many years ago when he was about 10, he had only just been diagnosed ADD and also Autistic Spectrum Disorder. He had significant behavioural difficulties through bullying as a result of a speech disorder and his other conditions meant he had severe impulse control issues. I received an urgent call at work to get home straight away as he had grabbed a large kitchen knife and threatened his mother.

I raced home to see him outside the house with the knife. There was an instinctive and I believe guided moment for me where I knew that simply telling or ordering him to put it down would not be effective and I just said "It's alright mate, you can put it down now". It was like he hadn't known what he could do, but now he did know. So he just put it down.

I tell this not for attention but to illustrate my point. Were we in America, some neighbour may very well have called the cops when and if they saw him doing what he was doing. Copper turns up, ORDERS him to put knife down, which is something he would have not been able to do. And ignorants on the net would have applauded the coppers actions in probably gunning him down without taking age or other points into account, simply because he had a weapon in his hands.

There seems to be an increasing trend in the US to somehow ignore or fail to take into account that kids are actually kids, and do the things that kids do. Such as already pointed out in this thread. As Ibonibo has stated, things I did when I was a kid would have landed me in maximum security for sure, simply doing what kids do until they are taught otherwise. Is there a statute of limitations on stealing cigarettes from out of cars? Or carrying a box of matches everywhere to light little grass spot fires. I had no idea of the possible or potential consequences of such behaviour.

Yes, the kid in the OP was out of control. But he was still just a kid. At that age there is no real ability to work through consequences of his actions. We don't know if he had mental health issues. And to put 7 shots into the cabin after having been told to back off...FFS, talk about overkill.
 
Zona
BAN ALL THE GUNS
/s

Seriously though, there have been dozens of cases similar to this one where cops just unload their weapons into peoples cars. Yes the kid who was involved in this rammed a cop and had a gun, but really the kid didn't need to be shot.

Cops should go through more advanced training on using guns and the consequences that they have when used.
Click to expand...
Oh right. Let the kid drive off and potentially run over your mom, your dad, your sisters, or your brothers. Its the same answer as the other threads, if you assult a police officer, you have a VERY high chance of death. Period. Same with the woman that rammed the whitehouse gate, same with the kid that raised his real looking toy gun toward the cops. You don't EVER mess with police officers or any law enforcement agency, unless you want to die.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Oh right. Let the kid drive off and potentially run over your mom, your dad, your sisters, or your brothers. Its the same answer as the other threads, if you assult a police officer, you have a VERY high chance of death. Period. Same with the woman that rammed the whitehouse gate, same with the kid that raised his real looking toy gun toward the cops. You don't EVER mess with police officers or any law enforcement agency, unless you want to die.
Click to expand...

It's different when it's kids. Kids are often stupid and have a bad/incomplete understanding of consequenses because they're not "done" yet. This has got to be taken into account and stuff like this handled with care.

I wish I could communicate how messed up I find all this, but I can't.
 
Encyclopedia
It's different when it's kids. Kids are often stupid and have a bad/incomplete understanding of consequenses because they're not "done" yet. This has got to be taken into account and stuff like this handled with care.

I wish I could communicate how messed up I find all this, but I can't.
Click to expand...

Kids can kill just like adults, the end result is not any different. Also, a good chunk of adults are stupid and have bad/incomplete understanding of consequences, so I'm not sure we're ever "done".

I wonder what the reaction would have been had he rammed someone else(non-police) and gotten himself shot? Again, police have a right to defend themselves just like you and I.
 
Justin
Kids can kill just like adults, the end result is not any different. Also, a good chunk of adults are stupid and have bad/incomplete understanding of consequences, so I'm not sure we're ever "done".

I wonder what the reaction would have been had he rammed someone else(non-police) and gotten himself shot? Again, police have a right to defend themselves just like you and I.
Click to expand...

Point is they should be done. Kids are works in progress by nature. You have to have a different attitude towards them.

All I'm saying is that the police in America very often seem too heavy handed (yes that's a generalization), and it doesn't seem like a good thing to me.

At least this is how it comes across to a naive Swede like myself.
 
Encyclopedia
All I'm saying is that the police in America very often seem too heavy handed (yes that's a generalization), and it doesn't seem like a good thing to me.
Click to expand...

They can be, I don't think this is one of those times though. You have a person, doesn't matter the age, driving around in a 3 ton vehicle down residential streets with seemingly 0 regard towards others. I don't see what options they had, their squad cars aren't going to be enough to stop it, it really only leaves 1 other option.
 
Encyclopedia
All I'm saying is that the police in America very often seem too heavy handed (yes that's a generalization), and it doesn't seem like a good thing to me.
Click to expand...
I live in America, and all I've ever encountered are nice/friendly policemen. :confused: Good luck?
 
Justin
They can be, I don't think this is one of those times though. You have a person, doesn't matter the age, driving around in a 3 ton vehicle down residential streets with seemingly 0 regard towards others. I don't see what options they had, their squad cars aren't going to be enough to stop it, it really only leaves 1 other option.
Click to expand...

Perhaps you're right. Things like this are just really shocking to me, and I guess I should be thankful for that.

Ittybitty Stigy
I live in America, and all I've ever encountered are nice/friendly policemen. :confused: Good luck?
Click to expand...

I realize my generalization is bound to be a bit unfair. Obviously my observations of America are limited to media. And there isn't much news-value in a police officer letting someone off with just a warning for example.
 
Encyclopedia
It's different when it's kids. Kids are often stupid and have a bad/incomplete understanding of consequenses because they're not "done" yet. This has got to be taken into account and stuff like this handled with care.
Click to expand...
It also means that if they're pointing the barrel at you they're more likely to pull the trigger. Does a cop need to die at the hands of a perp before you'll let his colleagues take him down?

And this wasn't a kid - this was a 17 year old. He was old enough to get a driving licence and go off on his own in a car unsupervised. What he chose to do with that was drive into cops.
frenzal
I tell this not for attention but to illustrate my point. Were we in America, some neighbour may very well have called the cops when and if they saw him doing what he was doing. Copper turns up, ORDERS him to put knife down, which is something he would have not been able to do. And ignorants on the net would have applauded the coppers actions in probably gunning him down without taking age or other points into account, simply because he had a weapon in his hands.
Click to expand...
Queensland police carry a Glock 22 as standard issue. All it'd take is that phonecall from the concerned neighbour and your kid would be shot dead in Australia too.
 
Last edited:
Famine
It also means that if they're pointing the barrel at you they're more likely to pull the trigger. Does a cop need to die at the hands of a perp before you'll let his colleagues take him down?

And this wasn't a kid - this was a 17 year old. He was old enough to get a driving licence and go off on his own in a car unsupervised. What he chose to do with that was drive into cops.
Click to expand...

I keep think there must be some other way in many of these situations, but in this case you're probably right.
Famine
Queensland police carry a Glock 22 as standard issue. All it'd take is that phonecall from the concerned neighbour and your kid would be shot dead in Australia too.
Click to expand...

Swedish police officers are armed as well but that would most likely not happen here. Possibly if the kid came charging with the knife, but then they'd most likely aim towards the legs.
 
Then they've been trained badly. Or they think they're in the Wild West or a movie or something.

To stop a threat, the shots go in the torso - it's the biggest, easiest target to hit, it's full of organs and it saves lives. Leg shots do nothing.

In the movies you put the rounds into the brachial nerve cluster so the perp drops his weapon. Looks great - might even work on the firing range. Good luck doing it to a kid running at you with a knife drawn.
 

Similar threads

Cytoria
  • Poll
POLL : The GT Planet Authors Writing Competition (Movie Stars) - CLOSED
Replies
20
Views
1K
officialgtrch
officialgtrch
H
  • Poll
Life in Los Santos Roleplay Community (PS3) (Gangs, Cops & Other Roles)
Replies
2
Views
2K
lbpomg95
lbpomg95
ProjectWHaT
[CLOSED] WHaT's Cops and Cruise Club [CLOSED]]
92 93 94
Replies
3K
Views
94K
XxKaitoShionxX
XxKaitoShionxX
Beav
  • Locked
DBeav12's Legit Cops and Cruise Club [CLOSED]
465 466 467
Replies
14K
Views
412K
daan
daan
terminator363
[Update 4] Even More on the Story - Crazy $%#@ Going on at My Neighbor's House
2
Replies
52
Views
4K
terminator363
terminator363

Latest Posts

Back