"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[sturk0167]

Please upload. This is hilarious

Here's me doing it at Yamagiwa 8 months ago.
The 2nd view is the funniest.

 

[Lateralus5813]

Did one single and last race in Tokyo. The smallest bump oh the wall will grant you a 5-second penalty. It's absurd. Never racing there again.

Because of this I had to do what I said I wouldn't: buy a Gr.2 car.
Got the Motul, did a couple of laps and loved it. Will practice more before I jump into a race there though.

Tokyo traumatized me.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Ready to go in B. Faster in the old bird...

Haven't got the META and doesn't really want to own it. Lexus it is for me. The older one is far easier for me to go faster in. Already in the first lap I was matching my Qt in the new one. Have only been running 5 laps so far. Needs to run a dozen more at least before entering a race.

 

[koshmare]

Good luck, everyone!

 

[MIE1992]

There absolutely is a stationary goalpost, in fact there's several. Those would include DR and SR and the ultimate, definitive truth that is the top 10 leaderboard.

Everyone is playing the same game with the same limitations, pros and cons.

People have demonstrated how easy it is to win those trophies by manipulating the game mechanics. If you want to win them on merit then that's what you have to do.

What I meant by the ideal, stationary goalpost, would be the criteria for obtaining the wins/poles trophies. Alternatively, they could just be bad trophies in the first place.

All you are doing is stating that there's a general problem. I could follow the BoP thinking, but don't agree with it. I can't even begin to understand what the problem is you're trying to unravel within your essays.

Honestly, create a dedicated thread where people will interact with you. I don't think this is the right one. This is an enthusiast community which surely must be the best place to voice your concerns.

I'd love to be accommodating and supportive but at present these essays come across as being similar to me getting pissed off with Nike and the IOC because Usain Bolt can run faster than me. Try making a list of your issues with a list of proposed improvements and you'll get more traction with the debate.

That sounds fair enough. Likely would be more productive for me, too - to organize my thoughts first, at the least.

You are clearly taking this way too serious. It's a game. PD can be as transparent or un-transparent as they like. And it should make little difference to us.
You are right about the trophies being hard to get. Yet we have at least one member here who earned the win trophy in just a few weeks. Not by being a supreme race driver but by using the system to get it.
You should, for your own sake, stop viewing the game as something that you are to interpret and see it as a mean to have fun. If you don't enjoy the game, you should step away from it.
A car enthusiast is something totally apart from the game. If you enjoy that, don't stop.

And I have 4 wins on 400+ races. I will never get the trophies. But I am enjoying my time in game. If I wasn't I would uninstall it.

Yeah. Now that I've had some time to cool down, I think my frustration with GT/GTS is more emblematic of my own personal issues. Like, I have too much time on my hands; not much of a social life right now, let alone any romantic elements. (Thought I do really want those latter things - and generally getting my social needs met.) I've had my therapist recommend that maybe I should go for a jog for some cardio, too. Overall, I think I'll still play GTS and GT, but with the personal change that I shouldn't take it so seriously. (Nor a lot of other relatively trivial things, really.)

But I wish Tokyo Expressway wasn't so seemingly terrible for all but the slowest cars. Eh, I suppose I could always just not do that one. Like, I find them fun to drive on, but not to actually race on, where nobody has a sense of space. It's why I often think there'd be notable improvements in racing quality if light damage was enabled. Not heavy so that damage would be a virtual show-stopper, but enough that there are immediate repercussions to smashing something outside losing SR and incurring penalties.

EDIT: It's also just that I find it really hard to articulate what I want out of GT and GTS. It's especially hard because idk what element to begin with, and I don't know how well a given suggestion of mine may or may not gel with how PD operates, or the goals that they may have for that element. I know that I see potential in many parts of GT/GTS, but I just don't know what to do, especially when I can't get any feedback from PD.

 

[suprajef]

Crap, I just put a pizza in the oven! I’ll be there soon as I can.

Sorry but off to bed now, did one race and came second. And it was race c that I did, not A. My bad.

But it has begun...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Back to the derby. First race another BS penalty in the fast right after the chicane. A crash out coming back up to speed and unghosting right before the fast right hander endangers the car 0.5 sec in front of me who decides to slam on the brakes instead of a tap to make the corner. I can't brake fast enough to avoid the roadblock both of them create. 85 SR left.

Monday is always tricky, there are some let's say 'interesting' people out there. The dive bomber messaged me back, saying sure he drives like a dick but is still clean. I'm not sure what that even means. He hit me and gave me SR Down. Yes, he gave the position back the first time, so he could just do it again lol.

Last race, I'm behind a slower drive and stagger my line into the hairpin before the bus stop as not to run into him due to slipstream braking. So once we start braking he moves over to block me with his car, at least I started braking early enough that his slipstream didn't make me run into him. Some people just ask to get punted. Don't swerve in the braking zone!

Next one up

 

[DelboyD]

I tried attempting one daily race this week despite my rankings reset after my last disastrous experience a week or two ago at Autopolis.

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I chose Race B and went with my new Huracan GT3 that I had made a fresh livery for last month. Of course I was the only person in the race with a custom livery.

Nice paint job!

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I’ve never “no qualified” before but it looks like a very sane tactic for daily B this week. Just wait for everyone else to die on the first lap. The only problem is that puts all the idiots behind you trying to barge back up the field.

I think you're right. First race I did in the '16 Lexus 16th > 7th. Probably would had done worse if I qualified, I'd likely be caught in all the train wrecks. Pretty chaotic field. Besides, I find I have way more fun at the back and it's less pressure.

 

[250Cal]

Race C contains the predictable delights. The full range of nudging, bumping and weaving on show. It's a treat.

Loved this:

My overtake is deliberately robust due to earlier goings on ( Note the big drop off in lap times - I got a clean race bonus). The response is tremendous!

 

[Chevy Heavy]

I think I'll just play something else - I have a lot of games on my backlog.

Have you tried Wreckfest? Sometimes it's not that far off from GTS.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I think you're right. First race I did in the '16 Lexus 16th > 7th. Probably would had done worse if I qualified, I'd likely be caught in all the train wrecks. Pretty chaotic field. Besides, I find I have way more fun at the back and it's less pressure.

Yep, no pressure. But it's anything but easy. Last race I got rammed off twice but at least no penalties so back up to 91 SR. I went up and down the field a couple times, finished 8th in the end yet passed most people twice lol. BS penalties don't hurt as much if you start last.

It's the afternoon, no school today, first day new track, most chaotic time to race. Definitely not boring.

So funny when they thank you for a clean race after giving you 4 SR Downs by bumping in the corners and barge passing. That's the most frustrating part of the penalty system, that some people simply have no clue.

 

[MIE1992]

Have you tried Wreckfest? Sometimes it's not that far off from GTS.

No, but I hear it's fun. But I already have a lot of other games on my backlog, too.

I just wish I could better articulate what I want from GT/GTS. But I don't know what PD's goals are for a given element and I can't get any feedback from them either way, so I don't know why I should even bother posting them here, or anywhere. It's frustrating because I think I see a lot of potential in various elements of GT/GTS, but for as little as I know, the next GT game could very well address those concerns that I have. I'm just at a loss as to how to articulate any suggestions. I think I should try to just get whatever enjoyment I can out of whatever ends up being developed & released by PD, and just give up on thinking so much about these things, and a lot of other things for that matter. No point in trying to improve any facet of the human condition for anyone. Nobody will hear it, so why should I bother? I should just become a recluse. I don't even know if I even like cars that much in general. Everything feels like it's getting worse and it makes me sometimes wish for WWIII.

 

[benjoi84]

Race B; logging currently a 1.28.8 with the Xanavi Nismo and especially impressed that the '08 cars are getting a look in. Can't wait to see how the week progresses.

 

[sturk0167]

Sorry but off to bed now, did one race and came second. And it was race c that I did, not A. My bad.

But it has begun...View attachment 857638

I hope you stay there, at least until tomorrow morning. I'll be looking to punt your ghost.

 

[Winnie847]

Sorry but off to bed now, did one race and came second. And it was race c that I did, not A. My bad.

But it has begun...View attachment 857638

TPC on the leaderboard!!! Woot woot! Nice job 👍

 

[El_Beardo]

No point in trying to improve anything for anyone. Nobody will hear it, so why should I bother?

Don't ever try to improve things for other people. Well, not until you've improved the things you need/want to, first (mental health, etc) Trust me, I've been there far more often than I like to admit. Once you're feeling better about you, other people's crap falls into place.

I should just become a recluse.

Not the worst idea in the world. With a few exceptions. Socialise at work. Or with us. Just keep the daily race stuff daily race themed. Start a "MIE's random thoughts" thread. Your long posts lead themselves to a decent discussion. You just need to aim them at the right place. Back to the recluse bit . . As long as you see family, etc, don't worry about it. I very rarely go out. There are people out there. I hate people. Much better conversation from the cats.

I don't even know if I even like cars that much in general.

Neither do I. I'm one of those "I like big, practical diesel estate" wierdos. I can't stand watching car races. They bore me to death. Bike racing is where it's at. Unless it's gaming. Then it's the other way around.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

@Pigems what did you guys settle on for a name? I missed it. I personally thought "Temple of Hizam" or whatever @Mistah_MCA had was hilarious. Although, he'd probably have to sanction it. Like if we started a biker gang in Bandidos turf, lol.

I think it was Church of Hizal. I don't think Mr. Lightning would approve of that, though.

 

[250Cal]

Race C is tough! It's a proper challenge to work your way through and the lack of pace means that anything less than a 1.5-2 sec pen for the car in front isn't enough to get through, even if you're on their bumper. So very close racing. I've had two cleans in a row but I doubt I'll record better than a 5th all week, just too much work to do to get through the pack cleanly from 19th/20th.

I'm less than 2,000 DR points off DR A in my little "Start from the back" challenge. Even when complete I think I'll keep doing it as it's much more eventful racing.

 

[Petroperu]

Great race I had on the Tokyo Loop with the Peugeot RCZ.
I maintained my position mostly and by the end of the last turn, I was trailing a Venezuelan in the slower car. I put myself behind him gaining speed and proceed to overtake him on the outside.
He saw me crawling on the right side and proceeded me to hit me to the walls.
He got a 2 second penalty! HA!
I still beat him.

Ended up 4th place btw.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

You know a race is unpopular when you see 4 sets of DRs racing one another. Race C is a borefest by every stretch. It's not suited at all for longer racing. It's a Race A by definition, not C.

My only race highlights were being pit maneuvered (lost around 6 seconds to the rest of the field. SR S at its finest) purposely after turn 1. He already had a 5 second penalty so it looked like he was on a rampage. The joke is he still finished with neutral SR. The other was a nice and clean 3-wide battle at the last turn, I was able to pass them both to reach 8th.

Despite lost time at the start, I finished 7th after starting last. Recovering SR is its only redeeming feature.

 

[Invisigoth]

TPC ? New team

It's hilarious when you use his name in chat. Because PC in TPC precedes the P in @Pigems , it bleeps out his name . Drugs are bad, m'kay?

Did one single and last race in Tokyo. The smallest bump oh the wall will grant you a 5-second penalty. It's absurd. Never racing there again. Tokyo traumatised me.

Aaaaand *this* is why I stopped racing Tokyo in any form. The other cars pinballing me off the walls usually result in 1 minute or more in penalties .

 

[Pigems]

It's hilarious when you use his name in chat. Because PC in TPC precedes the P in @Pigems , it bleeps out his name . Drugs are bad, m'kay?



Aaaaand *this* is why I stopped racing Tokyo in any form. The other cars pinballing me off the walls usually result in 1 minute or more in penalties .

You race Tokyo with us!

 

[GT5Power]

Bite-sized story time from my alt account:

Lap 4 in race B, running 5th (having started last). 6th sends it up the inside of T4 from 4 tenths back, clips my car, plows into the wall and I get a 5 second penalty. Oh the joys of C/C. I'm C/D now.

 

[Petroperu]

Woah people are crazy good at Dragon Trails.
I am doing high 1:38s with the Raybrig NSX Concept-GT.
But I am doing it with TCS off and I am losing time because I going delicate on the throttle exiting those corners.
I was slipping on full throttle while qualifying.
That's why I decided to take it more careful in the actual race, but people are OP on this track.

 

[Granadier]

Back to the recluse bit . . As long as you see family, etc, don't worry about it. I very rarely go out. There are people out there. I hate people. Much better conversation from the cats.

This is the secret to happiness. I should get a cat again.

Woah people are crazy good at Dragon Trails.
I am doing high 1:38s with the Raybrig NSX Concept-GT.
But I am doing it with TCS off and I am losing time because I going delicate on the throttle exiting those corners.
I was slipping on full throttle while qualifying.
That's why I decided to take it more careful in the actual race, but people are OP on this track.

With the Gr. 2 cars you can shift up into 3rd when exiting corners to preventing wheelspin while still going full throttle.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

Gr.4 is where I generally feel most comfortable. So decided I'd do some Tokyo laps.

Well, I started a lap and got bored waiting for T1 to appear. Decided I couldn't be bothered to do it again once I'd messed up T2, and so that was that really.

To my least favourite class it is then. Gr.2. I'm not sure which I'm worst at tbh. Gr.1 or Gr.2. But safe to say I wasn't overjoyed by the prospect. I went for the old Lexus for 3 reasons.

1 - I hate the '16 GT-R.
2 - Other than the '16 GT-R it's the only other Gr.2 I have.
3 - That's what @RacingGrandpa was driving.

Did about 100 miles. Completed what, 15 laps!? I mean, I understand the concept of trusting the downforce and all that... But I'm really not consistent enough to trust that the car itself will be consistent - I promise that makes sense! If you get the right line, then you can run it full throttle and it'll be like it's on rails. Yep. Totally. Well... I think I managed the COD full bore ONCE. And that was on my first go when I wasn't really focussing too much and I'd already ruined the lap before we got there.

Anyway. The best I could muster was a 31.880 and that's probably as good as it's gonna get.

The Seaside is a proper track. You have to be close to bang on, just to get an 'average' lap. I was either down, going through the Bus Stop or if I was up, I sure as hell wasnt gonna be by the time we'd got out the otherside - all the hardwork is wasted. Ah well.

Not sure I can bring myself to actually race any of these though this week. None of them shout out as actually being fun.

 

[NoStopN]

That all depends on where you are when they decide to bottle it.

You sent that car to the Shadow Realm in the 3rd video.

Maybe I need to learn revenge.

I smell another joining the ranks of R4M.

Ready for some of that Gr.2 DTS mess in EMEA.

Well, once I've earned enough credits for that damned RCF.​

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I'm going to need to get some credits on my alt account in order to get a Gr. 2 car.

Haven't got the META and doesn't really want to own it. Lexus it is for me. The older one is far easier for me to go faster in. Already in the first lap I was matching my Qt in the new one. Have only been running 5 laps so far. Needs to run a dozen more at least before entering a race.

I assume the GT-R is meta this week as well?

I'm one of those "I like big, practical diesel estate" wierdos. I can't stand watching car races. They bore me to death. Bike racing is where it's at. Unless it's gaming. Then it's the other way around.

I'm an off road truck nut. Been one for some time.

 

[Petroperu]

Didn't do so bad at Race C.
Ended up 6th from very last place.
Didn't have time to qualify.
Lots of people sliding off track for some reason that doesn't make sense (the Miata is extremely slow and very friendly to full throttle maneuvering).

Rate is obscenely long for this track and car though.
Wouldn't do it again.
Race was tedious.

 

[S A Debre]

It's been less than a day and it feels like everyone in these goddamn lobbies is already a Dragon Trail expert

Also, interestingly enough I've only seen like two guys get killed at Death Chicane. T5 and the squiggles after it seem to be the main Shadow Realm entry point because people just aren't very cautious about that part of the track.