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I had a great night of racing in race A. Little to no contact all night with some clean racers. Only significant contact I had was when I let off going into the chicane after getting a good enough run to pull alongside going in... He bins it so tough he almost comes to a stop and I boot him to the shadow realm coming thru at full speed. Sends him to the wall I get a 3 sec penalty and a SR down. Gg penalty system.
 
Shameful admission from an IT guy: I had my TV in "Theater" mode. After switching to "Game", I seemed to get faster, so I've been running a lot of League stuff to figure it out. Short answer: I'm faster, and more consistent, and I can now drive MR's much better. I knew I had a control latency issue, and I guess the TV setting was the problem? (58" Toshiba LED with a 4' Monster Cables HDMI...) Anyway, after a bunch of "testing" in League events, I ran B at Suzuka last night. I went from wild, a__-over-elbows 2:06's in the Mustang or Atenza to solid, stable 2:02's in the RS.01. I'm willing to admit t might all be in my head, but it feels real...
 
Race a is good this morning. Four deep, and all really clean. The guy i had the photo finish with yesterday or was it the day before..... anyway, he showed up for the last two, so its getting intense early.

I did a few at midnight last night with a few beers in me, and although i was sloppy i was still pretty fast. Podiums in each race and no contact of issue. Also was putting some 28.7's and 8's in race which is about my best race pace...

@Fudman420 in the next one, right behind me.... it was a great race. Your fast man! A pleasure sharing the track with you:cheers::gtpflag:
 
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I forgot one little thing. When we got the SF '19 added, I remapped that button for the overtake function. So, I'll have to look into my settings & see where I put it.



I use TCS, so I can't complain about lack of grip on the rear tires. But I swear that makes the lack of traction from the front tires double. Yeah, I know that sounds obvious (I'm a math major :D), but I swear the tire models have gone through enough change since the last Suzuka/Gr.3/RH combo was run that you can throw half of my favorite cars out the window. Redoing those calculations, that's actually 2/3rds of my favorite cars. The only ones I can comfortably hustle around are the Corvette & Ford GT. But hey, I've won in both of those during the last combo.



F1 removes names, F4 returns them.



Agreed. I've lost count of how many races I was leading only to be concerned with second place in relative striking distance or me trying to set the fastest lap & miss a braking point & hand them a victory. I' ve adopted the "maintain the win" mentality. Don't go gung-ho for the FL, hit the braking points just a smidge earlier & avoid going off track.



I loved the Matrix driver passing people before the race started. :odd:



Agreed.



It's sort of a combo for me. I've just decided that Interlagos & Tokyo are no fly zones for me. Not only am I worse as a driver at those 2 locations, add in other cars & I look like a total beginner in their first race ever. Then, those other drivers are practicing for kamikaze school & I get knocked out of their way. That's just no fun & games are supposed to be fun.



That Catalunya race is flying right up on us. I did one test race so far to gauge fuel use & tire degradation. I was pleasantly surprised with the results. I may test another car before the cutoff date. BTW, do you remember what your average or best time is at Big Willow? I'm just curious as to where I stand in comparison. I thought I was doing pretty well eclipsing @Pigems best lap, but somehow he waved his black magic during the race to dip into the 1:16s & my eyes bugged out.



See above comment.
A few months ago, when we had the same Willow race, we realized that the times in lobbies are slower than in Sport mode. I was doing mid 17s in the lobby, and upper 16s in race qualifying. Maybe the difference is the grip level.
 
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Shameful admission from an IT guy: I had my TV in "Theater" mode. After switching to "Game", I seemed to get faster, so I've been running a lot of League stuff to figure it out. Short answer: I'm faster, and more consistent, and I can now drive MR's much better. I knew I had a control latency issue, and I guess the TV setting was the problem? (58" Toshiba LED with a 4' Monster Cables HDMI...) Anyway, after a bunch of "testing" in League events, I ran B at Suzuka last night. I went from wild, a__-over-elbows 2:06's in the Mustang or Atenza to solid, stable 2:02's in the RS.01. I'm willing to admit t might all be in my head, but it feels real...
You're not imagining it. Most "smart" TV's do a quite a bit of image enhancement / post processing before displaying the picture. This introduces latency. "Game" mode (sometimes has other names) leaves all the image processing to the source (your PS4 in this case) and just displays what comes through the HDMI cable. The difference can be as much as 40ms on some TV's.
This issue is sufficiently important that I prefer racing on our budget 23" that I bought for the kids to the premium 40" Samsung because even in game mode the Samsung has more latency than the little budget TV (admittedly the Samsung is eight years old and newer offerings with OLED screens would be MUCH quicker).
 
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Race a is good this morning. Four deep, and all really clean. The guy i had the photo finish with yesterday or was it the day before..... anyway, he showed up for the last two, so its getting intense early.

I did a few at midnight last night with a few beers in me, and although i was sloppy i was still pretty fast. Podiums in each race and no contact of issue. Also was putting some 28.7's and 8's in race which is about my best race pace...

@Fudman420 in the next one, right behind me.... it was a great race. Your fast man! A pleasure sharing the track with you:cheers::gtpflag:
That was great fun! Great race, you are fast and clean as well! I was hoping you'd realize I was content to just follow till late in the race so we could gap the field and it worked out perfectly. We had a 5 sec lead and a great 2 lap battle for the win. Great win!
 
Apologies in advance for this essay!!

Bought a GT86, had a 10 minute familiarisation with it and went for two races between the lakes.

Loads of fun! First race, got passed early by a Jag who then passed the pole sitting Ferrari and opened up a small gap. I was all over the back of the Ferrari but with the straight line disadvantage it was near impossible to pass - although I was much quicker through T6 and had been tempted a couple of times. About L5 got a great drive out of the Senna S and the Ferrari... moved over. Clearly hoping that I could drag him up to the Jag I immediately thanked him by going off at T4 and bagging myself a 0.5s penalty, I wasn't going to be given that spot again!

Now at the time in the race where the tyres start to make a difference I got straight back on the tail of the Ferrari and after a couple of laps following I made the move out of T6 and in the run up to the hairpin on L8 - the gap to the Jag was 3s. So head down and off we went, gaining hand over fist, I caught up with the Jag half way around L10.

As expected he was really struggling badly with his tyres, was right behind him out of the Senna S on the last lap but the Jag's sheer grunt kept me at bay, then he parked it on the apex of T4 to stop me getting a run there. Not to be denied, had a run out of T6 but couldn't quite take it at the right hand hairpin (bit of contact, nothing naughty), the short run down to the left side by side he had the inside line - so I just drove around the outside of him! Into the lead, defended the right at the top of the hill VERY tight :D. Kept it clean through the final two corners and just held on across the line for my 30th win :cheers:



Next race, was racing the same Jag. Similar story of him taking the lead, I made a mistake and got overtaken by a Megane and then it was me and the Jag again, except this time I had more laps and he was totally determined not to let me past. Squeezing, stopping on apexes, hard but fair defending. So on L10 I just drove around the outside of him at the same left hand hairpin as the previous race! Defended the inside up the hill again and then defended for my life into the Senna S, couldn't have got a push bike on the inside of me! Held it, finished 2nd.



Toyota is a great option, not as quick as the Jag over a lap but tyre wear is amazing if you're in a position to make it work. Up to 48k now - and done for the day

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Shameful admission from an IT guy: I had my TV in "Theater" mode. After switching to "Game", I seemed to get faster, so I've been running a lot of League stuff to figure it out. Short answer: I'm faster, and more consistent, and I can now drive MR's much better. I knew I had a control latency issue, and I guess the TV setting was the problem? (58" Toshiba LED with a 4' Monster Cables HDMI...) Anyway, after a bunch of "testing" in League events, I ran B at Suzuka last night. I went from wild, a__-over-elbows 2:06's in the Mustang or Atenza to solid, stable 2:02's in the RS.01. I'm willing to admit t might all be in my head, but it feels real...

Check if your tv is listed here. They show the latency for all different modes.
https://www.rtings.com/

You should always use game mode if the tv offers it. Also some tvs add a lot of latency when using HDR, yet some 4K tvs are slower when you feed them a 1080p signal since they have to upscale. For example the Sony 830F 4K tv:
1080p @ 60 Hz: 29.8 ms
1080p @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode: 92.0 ms
1440p @ 60 Hz: 30.5 ms
4k @ 60 Hz: 31.8 ms
4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR: 32.1 ms
4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4: 31.5 ms
4k @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode: 94.0 ms
4k @ 60 Hz With Interpolation: 99.3 ms

Only problem is, Europe uses different names for the same tvs, the 900E in US is XE90 in Europe to make things confusing.
 
Had nothing but good races this morning. A bunch more with @Fudman420 great races man, your solid competition. Saw @dlshearon in a couple also. Going to have to do some real life stuff today so i am off to hunt ghosts for a bit first.

Congrats on the wins! Some clean & fun racing this morning. I hope to be home tonight to catch the lobby racing!

Edit: remove flags and I did have a terrible Race C, that a South American tried knocking off every panel of my Mustang. I lost my cool and sent him in the wall.

It is funny how you forget the bad races after you have a few good ones.
 
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It's Saturday weee
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That was all SR.S at the start of the race. I got a BS penalty from a car trying to push me into the pit lane, then spun out in his efforts and hit the wall. Plus a whole bunch of SR Downs in the middle of the carnage. I was in 8th in the final lap, but the car behind me dive bombed the car in front of me, who assumed I did it, so started ramming me off for the remainder of the lap.... Not a single lap without getting hit, dive bombed in T1 already at the start lol.

Down to 86 SR after that race.
 
It's Saturday weee
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That was all SR.S at the start of the race. I got a BS penalty from a car trying to push me into the pit lane, then spun out in his efforts and hit the wall. Plus a whole bunch of SR Downs in the middle of the carnage. I was in 8th in the final lap, but the car behind me dive bombed the car in front of me, who assumed I did it, so started ramming me off for the remainder of the lap.... Not a single lap without getting hit, dive bombed in T1 already at the start lol.

Down to 86 SR after that race.

Death wish racing!

I’ve never seen so many driver’s SR demolished like that in one race.
 
Death wish racing!

I’ve never seen so many driver’s SR demolished like that in one race.

There's too much SR to spend in SR.S. Next race I still got SR Down from getting bumped and got punted in T1 again as usual, yet +12 SR. It makes people think they are fine bumping other cars around, which sometimes ignites a demolition derby race like that. One person gets bumped, takes it out on the wrong person, etc etc.
 
It's Saturday weee
LfL0u15.jpg

That was all SR.S at the start of the race. I got a BS penalty from a car trying to push me into the pit lane, then spun out in his efforts and hit the wall. Plus a whole bunch of SR Downs in the middle of the carnage. I was in 8th in the final lap, but the car behind me dive bombed the car in front of me, who assumed I did it, so started ramming me off for the remainder of the lap.... Not a single lap without getting hit, dive bombed in T1 already at the start lol.

Down to 86 SR after that race.
I'm sure the post-race discussion was productive. :lol:
 
It's Saturday weee
LfL0u15.jpg

That was all SR.S at the start of the race. I got a BS penalty from a car trying to push me into the pit lane, then spun out in his efforts and hit the wall. Plus a whole bunch of SR Downs in the middle of the carnage. I was in 8th in the final lap, but the car behind me dive bombed the car in front of me, who assumed I did it, so started ramming me off for the remainder of the lap.... Not a single lap without getting hit, dive bombed in T1 already at the start lol.

Down to 86 SR after that race.
Stunned. I've never seen a lobby with that much red.

Does Interlagos just facilitate pure carnage, or is the "SR Down" bar lowered here? Honestly confused since I've had really clean, close racing there while ending with a red S. Things that would never pop an SR change elsewhere seem to trigger the downgrade here. Like for example this race I had last night was relatively clean, yet had a ton of red SR's at the end of it, including myself (think it was 8 pts down at the end).

I dunno, maybe I'm just imagining things.
 
I'm sure the post-race discussion was productive. :lol:

Everyone left pretty quickly, heads hanging in shame.

Stunned. I've never seen a lobby with that much red.

Does Interlagos just facilitate pure carnage, or is the "SR Down" bar lowered here? Honestly confused since I've had really clean, close racing there while ending with a red S. Things that would never pop an SR change elsewhere seem to trigger the downgrade here. Like for example this race I had last night was relatively clean, yet had a ton of red SR's at the end of it, including myself (think it was 8 pts down at the end).

I dunno, maybe I'm just imagining things.

It was an exception, one of those rooms where a couple people start causing trouble igniting the rest. Each SR Down costs you 3 SR, 5 of em and you have a red rating. A single contact penalty can be absorbed by collecting all other SR up arrows, yet two of em and you get red SR.

After flushing the toilet, the races cleaned up considerably. I settled on the 4C eventually as the best all rounder.
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I was driving it with brake balance to the rear to preserve front tires until I figured out it was only counter productive, causing the back to break out and ending up drifting through turns. That looks cool in replays, not so cool for the tires. With BB at 0, the car is absolutely stable and I have no more than a few tenths drop off in lap times in the last lap.

Other favorites these week are the NSX, 86, 458, Huracan, Cayman, Viper, F-Type. I've also seen the SLS AMG do well while Megane Trophies have pretty much disappeared from the grid. I've never seen BOP work this well, great job PD! Even the top 10 list is pretty varied with the Lancer, Atenza and Mustang in there as well. PD, thanks for making the FF cars totally irrelevant this week :)
 

Monza too. Get the other guy a penalty is so easy at Monza, just tap them and cut a chicane and it's a penalty for the other car and you even go quicker too and then there are the accidental track infringements and of course all the pushing that goes on down all the straights. A field without a blue SR rating at the end is easily possible there.
 
Monza too. Get the other guy a penalty is so easy at Monza, just tap them and cut a chicane and it's a penalty for the other car and you even go quicker too and then there are the accidental track infringements and of course all the pushing that goes on down all the straights. A field without a blue SR rating at the end is easily possible there.
ok satan
 

Especially last week on Tokyo in the FF cars, it was rare to see blue SRs at the end. SR downs had way more impact given there was little SR points to gain. IIRC, 2 SR downs = neutral SR. Anything beyond that was red SR. Even if you started on pole, the draft made sure you couldn't escape the pack from bump drafting you. :lol:

I gave up halfway through the week after 5 attempts to try and have a clean race there at S99. It was the norm to see most drop to SR A by the end.
 

I don't do it but it's happened to me multiple times, both when I've overtaken a car and when they were trying to pass me and I've seen cars in front do it and since it's not hard to do, it will only get worse. Next time Monza is in the dailies I expect loads of complaints about it unless PD change the penalty system by then, which is probably unlikely.
 
From the looks of things me having a couple of days off the game with family stuff seems like a good time for the 2 messy days of our friday and saturday. Need to give the 86 a good round at interlagos as I still feel fairly solid at that track, but also tempted to get used to it as a car since it seems to be a winner for Big Willow. Last time I rode the WRX around there and simply got dogged on the main straight all the time. Need something with zip.
 
I tried a race A for my mileage, went better than I thought until the guy that was faster than me but couldn't keep it on the track t-boned me in the final chicane for no reason. I got 4 seconds he got 2. I finished ahead of him but lost 2 spots otherwise. Bugger. Shoulda been a 5th in my first race in a long time.
 
I had some great clean racing on Interlagos in the late afternoon. My DR is back up to 17.3K from a low point of 8.0K on Thursday. No more driving FF cars! I've been sticking to the 4C this afternoon which is a great car for overtaking in the middle section, then defend on the straights by keeping inside and use those awesome brakes. I put a few clips together of my last 3 races. Contact free racing on Interlagos (forgiving the odd lag wobble)

Thanks to the almost irrelevant tire wear of the 4C compared to other cars, it gets easier and easier to overtake later in the race. Perfect for starting from last. 15 positions up in that last race to 2nd :)

Now I do have a problem, I want to start last at N24 on Monday. Yet since 2/3rd doesn't qualify for N24 on Mondays my DR is now way too high to start at the back. From previous experience, starting 6th to 12th on N24 on Monday means SR down to C after a couple races. I guess I'll give my DR away tomorrow to protect my SR for Monday. Park in the pit in lap 10 and sit the rest of the race out should do it with enough races. If I don't shed the DR tomorrow, it will likely disappear in a reset on Monday when starting in the middle :lol:
 
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