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1 hour-ish of practice for 3.5 tenths over my previous best? Yes please. I have no idea how to go any faster so I'll just stop for the rest of the week... :lol:



And if you were wondering, nope. I don't seem to like the META cars. I'm a hipster :cool:. Have been, since the GT5 days where I raced a BMW 120d as my main car in 400PP races. Bimmer did some good work, still have some fond memories :D.

Lancer feels very good. Planted, easy to handle and consistent. You can't push it too much or else it will nope out and understeer (turn 11 is where it struggles the most in my opinion), and yes, it does have 6 gears. No, 6th isn't useful.

See you people on track, hopefully. No puntin'! :lol:👍
 
sturk0167
Thank you.
I'm sorry, I left something out of my message. What I meant to say was that if you finish last, while being the lowest rated, would you not lose points? It sounds like in a field of 20, you may only lose 19.
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Yep, if you're DR D and everyone else is DR A over 44K, you would only lose 19 points in a field of 20.
If you're DR A (over 44K) sorted in a grid with 19 DR D (1 to 3999 DR) players and get disconnected, you lose 3,040 DR :lol:
 
NevilleNobody
My son has a toy Viper so we built a livery to match his toy and i promised to show him a race today with the Viper in it. Damn, that was a mistake. She's no good around the 'ring, rear end wants to step out under braking, not terribly but enough to make you hesitate before hitting the gas.
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My initial try: 58.8 with 58.5 as optimal. Might be a better car for a longer race. But, as much as I wanted to disprove your theory, the numbers don't lie. Tried the Corvette. Got a 58.3 with 58.0 optimal. Tricky track, surely slick as ice.

NevilleNobody
I will have the replay up in a sec, who was Groundfish listed as? All you schmucks with different usernames, just use the one from here so I know who you are!
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At least my alternates use the same name as my original. :D
 
NevilleNobody
Yeah not my finest pass, was never up to the C-pillar and missed the apex but i'll take it LOL.
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I got the races and the turns mixed up. It was the previous race I was thinking of and T7. We went wheel to wheel going in and you held the apex while I took an outside (slower) line. It was a nice move.

As for this one, it was understandable. You didn’t know I’d give you room, so you took it deep. What does “C-Pillar” mean? I have an idea from context clues, but would like to learn it’s meaning and application in overtaking.
 
Pillars are the structural supports for the roof. A is at the windshield, B between driver and passenger door, and C at the sides of the rear window. When the nose of your car is there before the braking zone you have the right to try and pass at the corner.
 
Guys technically my name here and my psn name are the same thing, just diff languages, they both groundfish homies!
I’m 48kon that acct right now, been building it since the game came out, and I race dailies regular so pissoff about the names!


So tonight I went in country again in my big ole boat. It’s a lovely car to drive.
Sadly tonight I wasn’t in the flow. Last night I was easily running mid 57 but tonight I was not...Race 1 I began in second but absolutely couldn’t shake a Canadian in an AMG. we were nose to nose at the line and he took second from me, great racing him though! Very clean and I’m happy with the bottom step of the podium.
I thought why not one more? In we go...
Again I start second with an Argentinian in the Ferrari third by a couple thousandths...911 on pole is a known A plus. The three of us were tight the whole first lap except the Ferrari tapped me a touch deep in the chicane entry so then I was totally defensive coming out. He tried round the outside final turn but door was closed. I defended but he was able to cleanly get around next to me on my outside turn 1 so well done by him...
Now the same AMG from last race is licking his chops and I’m out of sorts just racing point to point...I held him off lap 2 lap 3 turn 1 he aggressively challenged up the inside (I knew it was coming but I’m not gonna block a whole race). Turn 2 I had the inside but he was making a crossover challenge trying to very aggressively get narrow inside turn 3...I faded way right to give space looking to regroup and attack on the ensuing straight but he lost the car under braking into turn 3 and ended up half sideways no speed in middle of track in my path.
I was already on the limit looking for the inside turn 3 curb tapped him he went off and I got a 4 second pen...(knocking car off track)
I serve immediately 4 seconds lap 3 and fall to seventh behind some 911.
They are battling into the chicane and I get a good run and split through the two on exit back to fifth!
That was a seriously hairy moment!
The American in sixth stuffed it up my inside bad turn 1 even though I was defending...He took a pen I passed ended fifth...
Sr at 93, most entrants are B S, too risky to enter with high numbers of B, no offense or anything but if it were full A rooms I’d still be entering.
I told the AMG no worries, guy is a solid driver just a mistake, 6 little sr down don’t bother me dude! It was fun battling you!
Plus I’m not in the flow, 58s are pretty sad compared to being better focused...ADD oh well.
If you made it this far I wish you the best, this Stella is kicking in :)

Stay thirsty, my friends.
 
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Pillars are the structural supports for the roof. A is at the windshield, B between driver and passenger door, and C at the sides of the rear window. When the nose of your car is there before the braking zone you have the right to try and pass at the corner.
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It depends on the racing discipline. In F1 you have to be halfway alongside, if only to the C-pillar the defender has the right to the apex.
https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/

Consider the textbook method for overtaking in a corner: the attacker takes an inside line, gets alongside the defender in the braking zone, and beats the defender to the apex. If the attacker is ahead at the apex, there is no dispute over ownership of the racing line. The defender must yield. But what if the attacker is only partially alongside? Who owns the apex then?

Different racing series have their own criteria for how far alongside an attacker must be to have a claim to the apex. In Formula 1, the norms have been explored and refined over the years as a result of drivers like Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher pushing the boundaries and exploiting any gray areas. Today, it is generally accepted that the attacker must be at least halfway alongside the defender when they reach the apex to have a reasonable claim to this piece of track. Moreover, the attacker should not have achieved this position by carrying too much speed to make the corner — this method is called dive-bombing.

But true, if your nose isn't at least near the C-pillar before the braking zone you should not even attempt to out brake the other car, yet many do, over and over and over and over. Some exceptions apply of course, for example the vastly unbalanced GR.1 cars with very different braking distances. Yet in one makes and GR.3 and GR.4, braking distances don't vary that much so it's a good rule to stick to. If no overlap, don't try to out brake.
 
Man its someday to lose SR. I had two dead set nudges, penalty only 1 sec each a d went from 97 to 64. Damn.

Gave the 911 a try as everyone is using it, as usual at NGP, useless to me. Too easy to slide, doeant like bumps.

Gave the 16 Lexus a run. Matched my genesis qualybtime of 57.8. Raced with it and won but everyone else crashed out. Still, very different to the genesis, much more nimble a d good power but not as rock solid over bumps and the Tc impedes too much.

Gave old faithful a run, my ever favourite that I had been ignoring, the merc. Boom, felt good right away as i can brake late and the rear juuuuust slips enough for me to turn in and I can plant the gas like nothing else. Over the last chicane, I HURL it through there, literally all 4 wheels off the ground a d when she lands ahead bites and takes off, nothing else comes close to being capable of that. Ran a 57.2 which us well below 2pc off the fastest time which I rarely, if ever.manage to do. It's a good time for me.
 
Groundfish
Guys technically my name here and my psn name are the same thing, just diff languages, they both groundfish homies!
I’m 48kon that acct right now, been building it since the game came out, and I race dailies regular so pissoff about the names!
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Just to pick at you, I’m no ichthyologist, but Google says “Sebastes” is the species for rockfish, while groundfish would be demersal fish or bottom feeders like flounder or hagfish (also a decent Texas-based 90’s rock band).
 
ZiggyS80

Just to pick at you, I’m no ichthyologist, but Google says “Sebastes” is the species for rockfish, while groundfish would be demersal fish or bottom feeders like flounder or hagfish (also a decent Texas-based 90’s rock band).
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Yes, Sebastes denotes rockfish however the pertinent fishing regulations in my area refer to a bunch of subtypes and flatfish broadly under the term ‘groundfish’ regulations. Many varieties are fantastic eating, sadly I haven’t gotten out much the last few years for a few personal reasons.
The idea behind the handle was being a bottom dweller lol.
 
@Groundfish I did figure there was a reasonable explanation for the discrepancy, but wanted to give you a hard time. Plus any chance to quote Tombstone I’ll take. Just to take my own lumps, David Bowie is my namesake and he pretends to play Stevie Ray Vaughn’s solo in the video for Let’s Dance. Ziggy did not actually play guitar. Devastated!
 
ZiggyS80
@Groundfish I did figure there was a reasonable explanation for the discrepancy, but wanted to give you a hard time. Plus any chance to quote Tombstone I’ll take. Just to take my own lumps, David Bowie is my namesake and he pretends to play Stevie Ray Vaughn’s solo in the video for Let’s Dance. Ziggy did not actually play guitar. Devastated!
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Well played! Tombstones epic! Love people’s handles! Never would have figured out almost any without bein told. There was this rpm one I never figured but he nailed the reference on my lobby greeting within seconds!
 
Did Race C, saw alot of people going with 2 Stops but I feel like the 1 stop isn't a bad idea. Now granted I'm not one of those people who can make Speed in the opening laps on softer compounds and bigger fuel loads, but going from 15th to 8th sure seemed to suggest to me 1 stoppers are still decent enough.
 
RACECAR
Did Race C, saw alot of people going with 2 Stops but I feel like the 1 stop isn't a bad idea. Now granted I'm not one of those people who can make Speed in the opening laps on softer compounds and bigger fuel loads, but going from 15th to 8th sure seemed to suggest to me 1 stoppers are still decent enough.
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I think this the best strategy but starting on the hards, while everyone is close use the slipstream and keep tabs on guys Infront till ideally lap 8 but lap 7 if the tyres are done
Then nice fresh mediums to carve through the field with low fuel
I think the best pace I managed was low 32 on hards and consistenly in the 32's
Then nice to high 30, switching to medium and staying in the 31's after the first lap
 
Decided on a new strategy this week, no racing until the weekend, I'll spend what little time I have in the week to get to grips with track B so I can do both race A and B over the weekend, lol it will take me that long to get used to rear wheel drive.
 
NevilleNobody
I dunno, you had a run on him on the second lap and he took a defensive line then drifted over to the racing line, can't stand that. Pick a damn line or it ends in a plane crash.

I don't understand how he can be so untidy and turn low 57's, i just don't get it.
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If you're talking about the chicane at the end on lap 2, I'm... pretty sure that's fine. He moved once to the defensive to err on the side of caution, knowing that @05XR8 's Lexus was marginally faster in a straight line, and when he saw he wasn't alongside he returned to the racing line, all this done before the braking zone. If the guy had come across in the braking zone then, yeah, Houston we have a problem but it was fine in my eyes.

05XR8
Scratched a minor itch.
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That was a good race, shame you didn't get him in the end. I'm positive if you were in the Vantage you would've eaten him for breakfast on the straights and then you'd been able to defend but great driving nonetheless, you're damn quick! :cheers:
 
Natalie_GT
If you're talking about the chicane at the end on lap 2, I'm... pretty sure that's fine. He moved once to the defensive to err on the side of caution, knowing that @05XR8 's Lexus was marginally faster in a straight line, and when he saw he wasn't alongside he returned to the racing line, all this done before the braking zone. If the guy had come across in the braking zone then, yeah, Houston we have a problem but it was fine in my eyes.
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Nah to me he is trying to have his cake and eat it. He took a defensive line, at that point I would take the racing line, brake a little late and go under him if he slightly misses his apex. If i do that we crash as he drifts back to the racing line at the last second. Once you pick a line, you pick a line.

Groundfish
I like the Aston DBR9. Nothing can pass it or pull out on straights.
The races I’ve seen are a 911 festival, like a Porsche car club meeting.
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I don't get the 911 obsession in the faster rooms. It's wall to wall 911 and I cannot get within a SECOND of my Genesis or Lexus time or 1.5 seconds of the Merc.
 
NevilleNobody
Nah to me he is trying to have his cake and eat it. He took a defensive line, at that point I would take the racing line, brake a little late and go under him if he slightly misses his apex. If i do that we crash as he drifts back to the racing line at the last second. Once you pick a line, you pick a line.
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And what would you do once you have claimed that part of the track? The other guy still has the inside to the chicane and you can't pass anyway so... why not just stay back?
 
NevilleNobody
Nah to me he is trying to have his cake and eat it. He took a defensive line, at that point I would take the racing line, brake a little late and go under him if he slightly misses his apex. If i do that we crash as he drifts back to the racing line at the last second. Once you pick a line, you pick a line.



I don't get the 911 obsession in the faster rooms. It's wall to wall 911 and I cannot get within a SECOND of my Genesis or Lexus time or 1.5 seconds of the Merc.
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I could get a time out of the 911, but it would take 1-4 hours of qualifying, and it would be a unicorn lap. It stinks in the chicane if a persons not from Mars.
Also great q time man! I was really surprised to see you in the Hyundai the other day!
 
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And what would you do once you have claimed that part of the track? The other guy still has the inside to the chicane and you can't pass anyway so... why not just stay back?
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As mentioned, i will take the "high" line when someone goes defensive as there is a reasonable chance they overshoot the corner a bit given it is a shorter braking distance and they are a bit stressed. From there I can square off the corner and start an undercut. Also, by going defensive, they are compromised for the next exit, by taking away both lines you force me to brake a bit early and lose momentum through the turn compared to you just going defensive.
 
Race A at Suzuka: would you like to lose DR or SR for that race? Because you ain't getting away without paying one or the other. So close and impossible to race anyone without contact on the bumpers... fun, but not one to do over and over without risking a SR spiral.
 
NevilleNobody
As mentioned, i will take the "high" line when someone goes defensive as there is a reasonable chance they overshoot the corner a bit given it is a shorter braking distance and they are a bit stressed. From there I can square off the corner and start an undercut. Also, by going defensive, they are compromised for the next exit, by taking away both lines you force me to brake a bit early and lose momentum through the turn compared to you just going defensive.
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Alright, I see your point and I know that going defensive usually results in a slower exit speed. Honestly though I personally would never take the outside through the GP chicane unless I'm visibly seeing the guy on the inside massively overspeeding into it, I will show my nose but brake a bit earlier than them (bit before the 100 board) so as to not really cause any problems since it's more beneficial to have them return to the racing line and working together to pull away from the pack some more than start fighting inmediately. I guess it's just what we prefer to do as drivers, personally, the higher I go, the less likely I'm going to try for overtakes and the more mental games I'll play so as to take the least possible chances to screw up my 2nd/3rd/etc. place finish. Cheers for the respectful discussion :cheers:.
 
In some of the fast rooms I’ve been in certain drivers will go defensive by running as far as possible on the inside for example Interlagos approaching t1 mirror scraping the inside wall, then they wanna veer out towards the racing line and bonk the car alongside wide.
My response to those drivers now is pinch them tight by running right alongside them so they become trapped way narrow.
It’s a cheeky move but I take an eye for an eye, most days..
Like OK bud that’s where you wanna be that’s where you can stay.

At times it can be safer to run closer to your opponent because if there’s contact it will be lighter.
 
NevilleNobody
Early?? That's where i always brake. Killin me.
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My usual braking point is... ah god how do I explain. There's a bit of a grey line right alongside the tarmac by that point, then the same line becomes wider suddenly thanks to a kink. The kink is my braking point.

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Here, because I don't think words suffice, I'm crap at explaining stuff. :lol:👍

Edit: Yes, it's pretty much the 100 board, but I use that reference point because I usually see the 100 board knocked down and out of the way :lol:.
 
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