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If it really sounded like that Nascar might be worth a watch, might...

GTS gave me joy and bitterness tonight.
Another decent climb through the back at Maggiore. Started 13th, Nope... 12th after someone quit. At the end of lap 3 I was within touching distance of 4th. However into turn 1 they broke too early and I could do nothing but tap them. I backed off and they kept the place but a 2 second penalty was mine. I lost a further 2 places serving it. Finished 7th. But I at least set the fastest lap on lap 3. The Megane feels very good around here.
Popped over to Spa.
Qualified 13th, Nope... 12th after someone quit. Quietly made my way up the order as others spun out. Two cars served a penalty and I caught them at the end of the straight. I came through Les Combes slower than usual but one of them still decided to park it. Yup another penalty from hitting an idiot who was going unnecessarily slow. Served it but didn't loose a place. Eventually the others had grief and I caught them back up and passed them as they went wide at various corners. I was up to 5th. But the car had other ideas. It went wide coming through Ickx. Spun me into the inside wall. Of course I get 1.5 seconds as the cherry on top. (WHY PD, WHY IS THIS A PENALTY!? :banghead:)
Recover and then the next lap the car understeers coming out of Stavelot 2 and I do my best Tony Hawk impression along the kerb at Paul Frere. I know what's coming but I hope that less acceleration and keeping straight will help. Nope, 2 seconds later I spin several times. I again get going. Then last lap the car understeers at Pouhon. At least it doesn't spin but I loose a couple of seconds. Someone gets ahead. Their dirty air causes me to run wide through the 2nd part of the Fagnes Chicane and I of course spin again. Back in 11th now and the car isn't finished there. Runs wide coming through the last chicane and spins around and the timer counts down before I can get it anywhere near straight.
So so frustrating.
 
Copy. I figured there was something behind it. Anything I can do about it, that an obviously marginally capable person can do?
You could spend a few hundred billion on slightly shorter cabling across the Atlantic to shave off 1 or 2ms. Or fundamentally change the nature of the universe by altering the speed of light. Otherwise no.

Move to the East Coast maybe?
 
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EMEA.
Saw plenty of 3 abreast thro corners while swapping paint and little nudges here and there but nothing really dirty.
Have moved up to B S so that will probably change :lol:
 
Are you in the Americas region? I've seen plenty of BTCC action & I only ran 4 races last night. :lol:



I'll start by saying no & counter with another question. Am I the only one who feels like even though race B has no tire wear, the grip level begins to fall off around lap 3? :confused:
While there is no wear, I do believe the tire model has a temperature gradient, and therefore if you are working the tires hard, and get over the peak operating temperature... I believe you'd see some fall-off in grip and performance. It's obvious in-race and you can manage that within a short window- over-work the tires for a stretch and the grip in the next few turns will be less, but will recover when you ease up again.

Of course, you can see the red outline on the tire graphic when you really go over the limit, but I think that there is an impact even before the tires are shown in the red outline.
 
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While there is no wear, I do believe the tire model has a temperature gradient, and therefore if you are working the tires hard, and get over the peak operating temperature... I believe you'd see some fall-off in grip and performance. It's obvious in-race and you can manage that within a short window- over-work the tires for a stretch and the grip in the next few turns will be less, but will recover when you ease up again.

This was very apparent to me in the c race in gr2.
Seems to me also it’s been in game quite some time if you overheat tires straightaway with big slides from cold, they will never last or work as well as if you bring them up carefully to temp.
There’s an ideal operating window temp wise imo.
Also interesting was the med tires behavior when worn.
Even if they are worn say 20 percent they still were working great, just a bit more slip angle.
I found I liked worn meds after getting used to it.
 
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While there is no wear, I do believe the tire model has a temperature gradient, and therefore if you are working the tires hard, and get over the peak operating temperature... I believe you'd see some fall-off in grip and performance. It's obvious in-race and you can manage that within a short window- over-work the tires for a stretch and the grip in the next few turns will be less, but will recover when you ease up again.

Of course, you can see the red outline on the tire graphic when you really go over the limit, but I think that there is an impact even before the tires are shown in the red outline.
I agree 100%. I notice when driving cars like last weeks Gretty Fugo ( cars I enjoy sliding around) if you over do it, the slides start getting out of control, but half a lap of staying stuck, and they usually come back to what they were.
 
Been running from the back in race C NA. Going to have to qualify now as some known troublemakers have shown up and tried to have a go at me. Still mostly having fun with it but dirty air is annoying and the astroturf is just 100pct lethal.

If anyone wants a dark horse that is only slightly slower on acceleration but has a solid top end is the Hyundai. Weird, but had a couple good runs with someone who was running steady 2:02s in race and was just fast enough in the right places to be a really tough challenge to sort out getting by.
 
You could spend a few hundred billion on slightly shorter cabling across the Atlantic to shave off 1 or 2ms. Or fundamentally change the nature of the universe by altering the speed of light. Otherwise no.

Move to the East Coast maybe?

Haaaa exactly!!

I live 5,500km from the EMEA server and suffer at 130ms ping constantly.
I'm working on a new technology that involves bending the space-time continuum, as a DLC for GT7 Daily Races.
 
Haaaa exactly!!

I live 5,500km from the EMEA server and suffer at 130ms ping constantly.
I'm working on a new technology that involves bending the space-time continuum, as a DLC for GT7 Daily Races.


Easy there nerds ;).

Definitely not the first dumb question I've asked and I promise it won't be the last!!!


Just got done with 4 straight races in A-B/A-S lobbies. Had one fun race. Other than that, they were all meh. Everyone besides myself, and maaaaybe a few other guys in 458's, Viper's (my choice), or a random Megane are in the usual Metas. Although I saw someone post a top 10 world time last night in a viper, so I know a quick lap is possible. Regardless, I'm consistently a couple seconds off the front of the pack lap times. And with everyone on mediums, and in fast cars, with a very smooth track layout. Passes are hard to come by..... and someone really has to bottle it to make up ground.

I think I'm going to take this week off for the most part with some random races thrown in throughout the week.

Probably for the best. 2 of my 3 dirt bikes are in pieces and the first National of the season is this weekend. I got some wrenches to turn and some cardio to do! :crazy:
 
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Even with no tire wear you can overheat your tires and loose grip.

But I thought that if you overheat your tires, there is some sort of indication.......(see below)

Of course, you can see the red outline on the tire graphic when you really go over the limit, but I think that there is an impact even before the tires are shown in the red outline.

I've seen the red outline plenty of times. But I suppose the RM tires are more susceptible to this slight overheating than the RH. Last week at DTS Gr. 2, I swear the RM felt like they had grip for days, even with a multiplier.

This was very apparent to me in the c race in gr2.
Seems to me also it’s been in game quite some time if you overheat tires straightaway with big slides from cold, they will never last or work as well as if you bring them up carefully to temp.
There’s an ideal operating window temp wise imo.
Also interesting was the med tires behavior when worn.
Even if they are worn say 20 percent they still were working great, just a bit more slip angle.
I found I liked worn meds after getting used to it.

I felt the same last week. I suppose this is why so many were starting on the mediums then switching to the hards later. Also, bringing tires up to temp gradually:

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I think I'm going to take this week off for the most part with some random races thrown in throughout the week.

There's always Wreckfest. :mischievous: Obviously the demographics for the 2 games are backwards. :lol:
 
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Struggling with getting to grips on rave C, but trying to get better. So I do best in the TS0030, I know it's slower but I can handle it better and 2-3 secs faster than the TS0050 and about a week faster than the Audi. So not expecting to be competitive this week, just trying to hone (get would be more appropriate) my skills. Any other easy or at least easier to handle cars that I could try out? Did try the 787 and it was OK, corners badly, but at least doesn't become too hard on acceleration, was about as quick as the TS0050, but wouldn't want 10 laps with that.
 
Copy. I figured there was something behind it. Anything I can do about it, that an obviously marginally capable person can do?

No, you are limited by the speed of light for ping times.

I live in the Americas region and for my Asian account I picked New Zealand for my alt-home to mask my three bar problem. It doesn't make it faster but I figure others will excuse me as if I were dialing in from the end of the world. To be fair, many Kiwi users are hitting 4+ bars.

Pick Malta as your alt-European home maybe?
 
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No, you are limited by the speed of light for ping times.

I live in the Americas region and for my Asian account I picked New Zealand for my alt-home to mask my three bar problem. It doesn't make it faster but I figure others will excuse me as if I were dialing in from the end of the world. To be fair, many Kiwi users are hitting 4+ bars.

Pick Malta as your alt-European home maybe?
You're probably closer to the servers than us kiwis anyway. I can sometimes stick to 4 bars in the race, but honestly it is usually hanging around 3 for most of the time. FIA we get to 4, but it still says something that even then a large chunk of people cant hit a full 5. I get about the same connection in NA as I do in Asia.
 
Inus the FFs because I live TCR/WTCR. The TCR Australia season, bgins this weekend. Anyway, I don't need to win, I like the nostalgia of racing touring cars. All the TOCA/TOCA 2 vibes. ;)
 
Struggled through a few Race B races last night. Had run some qualifying laps earlier in the week in the TT and thought a 2:04:995 would put me somewhere half decent on the grid. Well, four races starting between 12th and 15th says otherwise!

I had a go in the Jag F-Type and had a good race, making a couple of places along the way to a 10th place finish. I tried the Viper with a new livery I had made and it looked good but only managed 11th on a grid full of TT and RCZ. I jumped in the TT and was put in 15th and ended up 10th with some impressive passes on the final lap, starting the lap 16th.

So I thought maybe it's time to improve my qualifying time. Jumped in the Renault Megane Gr4 and decided to try test the track limits. Well, I didn't realise how much you can cut some of these corners! Qualifying time dropped from 2:04:9, to 2:04:3, to 2:03:3 within 8 laps! I'll have to see what that does to my grid placings tonight!
 
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I wasn't trying to win. Just stayed respectfully clean, hard racing. On my alt even. AlfaMegane is so nice.


I've been quietly impressed with the Megane. I've not really used it until now (only had 60km use) but I have a feeling I'll be using it a lot more now. Any tips for BB setting? I've got it on 3 at the moment but it still has a fair chunk of understeer. Jumping into the TT after the Megane with the same BB setting makes the TT feel like a Gr3 car...
 
I've been quietly impressed with the Megane. I've not really used it until now (only had 60km use) but I have a feeling I'll be using it a lot more now. Any tips for BB setting? I've got it on 3 at the moment but it still has a fair chunk of understeer. Jumping into the TT after the Megane with the same BB setting makes the TT feel like a Gr3 car...
I leave the BB. Just TCS 0. There may be some members here, that have a favorite setting for the Megane. Not many use it though. Scirocco is the second most FF I've used. The TT and RCZ, I can count how many times I've used both those, on the same hand.
 
I've been quietly impressed with the Megane. ..

Same it's very good here. I don't have a TT. I won't buy one so I'll only get it if the game gives it to me. I've used the RCZ too many times so decided to use the Megane around here. In the races I have done I always go forward. I tend to get a better run out of the chicane and onto the back straight.
I think the understeer is just a mix of FF and being French.
 
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