"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Norrin Radd]

OK so I slightly tap 3 guys because they brake too early and get 2 secs each time. So fine, but the only one who lost time in 2 cases was me and the 1 guy who did lose time didn't lose a position. Meanwhile I get driven off track deliberately twice and no pens given. Also several drivers mucking up going off track and no pens because they "didn't gain time" they didn't lose the 2-3 secs they should have lost but who cares. I just go over the line and get a pen, didn't gain anything.
Next race take a guy on first corner, contact made because he turned in on me. He divebombs from over a second back knocks me off the track and nothing.
So the kind of incident that could well be accidental and not effect anyone is still getting penalised, while dive bombing and running wide are fine, as long as you hit their side.
Totally removal or everything is a pen. This is just going to encourage bad driving. OH I braked late lets just slam into the side of that car and it'll be fine.

It seems a little better than before, but soon the dirty drivers will perfect the cheating and then the not so dirty will do it because they feel they lose out by playing fair and anarchy is just around the corner.

 

[TonyTufast]

Don’t make excuses for your bad driving, I’ve never watched a race before other than one single nascar race and I can drive just fine, never played online racing before GTS either. Just because someone else makes a bad move on you, doesn’t mean it’s ok for you to do it. Treat other people the way you want them to treat you, not copy what they do.

You may not get complaints, but your SR graph says it all, drive cleaner!

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Oops, look you've missed that bit in my previous message where I said "I shared the account with my friend of a different skill set til about the "90" Mark.".

Im also sure you've played this game for much more time, so you're more experienced and you've been round the block.

I dont know what's upset you this morning, but stop taking it out on me

 

[Pigems]

Oops, look you've missed that bit in my previous message where I said "I shared the account with my friend of a different skill set til about the "90" Mark.".

Im also sure you've played this game for much more time, so you're more experienced and you've been round the block.

I dont know what's upset you this morning, but stop taking it out on me

You blatantly admitted to diving on people, and seem to think that it’s ok, that’s my issue. It’s no wonder your SR looks like that.

The difference is nothing to do with skill, it’s learning ability. When someone tells me I’ve done something wrong, I stop, recalculate and do do it again. I don’t argue that my point is right and keep doing it.

Edit: And your SR isn’t any better after the “90 Mark”.

 

[TonyTufast]

You blatantly admitted to diving on people, and seem to think that it’s ok, that’s my issue. It’s no wonder your SR looks like that.

The difference is nothing to do with skill, it’s learning ability. When someone tells me I’ve done something wrong, I stop, recalculate and do do it again. I don’t argue that my point is right and keep doing it.

Edit: And your SR isn’t any better after the “90 Mark”.

Looool last time I open my mouth on here then I guess.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account.

 

[D_Dragline]

You're within 0.2/0.3 by the time you get to the corner, I appreciate its probably not "racing etiquette" to go for that move, but it's a low B lobby and if you're leaving it that open on the first lap then I'm taking the invite haha

Let me give you a different perspective on this. If your general approach to racing is to try and take every “gap” and ignore/impede the racing line you are not going to improve your driving. The minimal advantage you gain at T1 is more than lost through a misunderstanding of what produces a fast race rather than a single overtake.

I am often on the receiving end of these sorts of dives and I ALWAYS just let them go, because I am virtually guaranteed to finish in front of the diver by the end of the race either because they out-brake themselves, get caught up in unnecessary fighting or are the subject of revenge from other drivers.

If you want to get better, learn the lines and racecraft from other drivers. If you want to dive bomb, accept that you’ll never be a very fast driver.

 

[NoStopN]

What's that other saying?? Something floats?

Hope?

 

[Pigems]

Looool last time I open my mouth on here then I guess.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account.

It’s not my fault you clearly haven’t learned after all that time how to drive properly, that’s on you bud. As for the stats, they are open public record, anyone can look up anyone’s stats. You don’t like what people see, get better stats. And if you don’t wanna be called out, then don’t drive like a knob. 👍

 

[Dairyworker]

Looool last time I open my mouth on here then I guess.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account.

You just happend to hit one of the biggest buttons possible for that kind of reaction. Mr pigems is actually a very helpful guy. If you sant the education, ask for it. You came here basically bragging about the kind of move that makes some of us see red instantly.

Also, your graph still looks questionable at best after day 90.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Looool last time I open my mouth on here then I guess.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account.

I don't see any insults actually. And you brought up your account.
What we are telling you are that the tactics you use would get you penalized in a real racing situation and eventually leading to s black flag.
There's no insult in that, it's fact.
There is also no insult in calling it a dirty move, because that's what it is.
So, now you know that, it's now up to you to decide if you are willing to accept this and then decide if you want to be a dirtydriver or a clean one.
Your actions on track is what we are talk about and we do so because you revealed that you use this strategy, and it's clear you don't know it's dirty.
Now you do

 

[roamingbard13]

Looool last time I open my mouth on here then I guess.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account.

He did. He told you it was a bellend move.

Instead of being -- "Oh, I didn't know...I'll think about that next time", you doubled down.

You can learn a lot in this forum if you listen. If that's not your thing, you're right -- why bother.


(For the record -- I was a DR C driver when I started posting in here. @Pigems and a bunch of the other regulars in here have given great advice and been kind with their time in-game, too. Between that a little bit of work on my end, I'm at A+ for now.)

 

[TonyTufast]

Let me give you a different perspective on this. If your general approach to racing is to try and take every “gap” and ignore/impede the racing line you are not going to improve your driving. The minimal advantage you gain at T1 is more than lost through a misunderstanding of what produces a fast race rather than a single overtake.

I am often on the receiving end of these sorts of dives and I ALWAYS just let them go, because I am virtually guaranteed to finish in front of the diver by the end of the race either because they out-brake themselves, get caught up in unnecessary fighting or are the subject of revenge from other drivers.

If you want to get better, learn the lines and racecraft from other drivers. If you want to dive bomb, accept that you’ll never be a very fast driver.

Appreciate it, will take it on board!

It’s not my fault you clearly haven’t learned after all that time how to drive properly, that’s on you bud. As for the stats, they are open public record, anyone can look up anyone’s stats. You don’t like what people see, get better stats. And if you don’t wanna be called out, then don’t drive like a knob. 👍

It's just mad how you're clearly a better driver than me and then you're just jumping for insults and screencaps. I'm not saying don't but it's a crappy attitude. I clearly don't know better, my only experience has been in public lobbies, you're an S rated driver, you could have just advised on how I could improve my racing but no, call me a **** **** and drag my name around the forum.

 

[The_Tullster]

Just a quick one. With the update. Noticed that after a disconnect, I didn't lose any SR/DR? or maybe it'll take some time to reflect the change.

Disconnect losses don't show until the race is finished and results for all drivers calculated. That being said, sometimes they don't show at all due to a network glitch.

 

[AfraidRacer]

What's that other saying?? Something floats?


Weird glitch when trying to improve quali, car had no livery on so I changed views and it came back. Only a slight annoyance, but had it been at start of a race I'd be thinking I had the wrong car.

Takes a bit of time to load in sometimes.

 

[roamingbard13]

It's just mad how you're clearly a better driver than me and then you're just jumping for insults and screencaps. I'm not saying don't but it's a crappy attitude. I clearly don't know better, my only experience has been in public lobbies, you're an S rated driver, you could have just advised on how I could improve my racing but no, call me a **** **** and drag my name around the forum.

Go re-read the posts, my dude.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I love love love diving people at T1 L1, if the car infront touches the rumble strip on the left before the corner then you go, put your car on that apex and let them know its your position now.

Piling into the conversation here but I don't really like going for moves at turn 1. The braking zone is pretty short and with the track limits/sausages you don't have much room to play with, getting a better exit is usually better because you then have a long run/hard braking zone at the top of the hill where inside and outside work just as well.

Of course if I can get fully alongside by about the start line I will go for it, if the other car loses time by fighting it all the way into the corner from that position it's their choice and I couldn't really give a 🤬. Getting on the outside before turn 1 is nice too, if they're pinched to the inside they normally back out early and you have the position and the quick exit.

 

[roamingbard13]

Just for full disclosure, here is the first thing that @Pigems said to you @TonyTufast . Could not be more helpful in tone.

That is the proper line, touching the curb on the left. That’s not an invite to “dive” in if you don’t already have overlap going into the braking zone. Maybe you should rethink your strategy there.

 

[LVS_1986]

Hi folks, question: anybody noticed problems with pedals after update? I know it was only for G923, but my friend is using old G29 and his pedals just stop working after update...

 

[ASH32]

Yes T1 at RBR is about the only part of the track I can do right (most of the time), you want to be way over (almost fully off the track) before turn in, if someone in lower DR rooms does this I promise you'll gain tons of time on all the other cars, as long as there's no one trying to pass you here, which only ever slows everyone down even when done to perfection.

Passing at T1 should only be done when you are much faster than the car in front and are at least level with them and never on lap 1, that just causes chaos.

 

[OJBrit]

Let me share my SR graph for comparison in this debate.

Not perfect, nobodies' is. However it is mostly above the 'average' line which shows at least I try to race as fair as possible. Yes mistakes and rubbish penalties will pull it down from time to time. On yours you have reached 'S' from time to time. However you loose it very quickly. On mine you can see I at least keep it for several days in a row on most occasions. You should find better racing in SR 'S' lobbies and in theory it should be easier to hang onto a 'S' ranking. You have shown you can do the right things to get to 'S'. Your next aim should be to stay there for at least a week. Your graph doesn't make good reading currently @TonyTufast

 

[NevilleNobody]

I mentioned a few days ago that I have a massive hate on for the RBR T1 move. It's plain stupid because all you do is compromise us both and we get gobbled up but the mob behind. Stay in line and try into the next right hander.

 

[ASH32]

Right knew I'd have one somewhere so here goes. T1 overtake attempt at RBR from this morning.



First thing to say is my opponent does not do anything wrong at all, as clean as you can get, but just look at how slow you have to go to make that happen and how much we are both down on our best time at the end of the sector. This is also the best case scenario for a T1 pass attempt, usually you lose a lot more than this, even when it doesn't end in a crash.

 

[das89ca]

I mentioned a few days ago that I have a massive hate on for the RBR T1 move. It's plain stupid because all you do is compromise us both and we get gobbled up but the mob behind. Stay in line and try into the next right hander.

I beg to differ, personally I find T2 a lot easier to defend on the outside when racing with fair drivers - the inside car has a very tight line here with a compromised exit.

T1 moves can be very smart, either in a standing start, where being on inside it's a big advantage, easy to do the move and leave the passed car struggling with the crowd behind or during races when a good launch from last corner will get you side by side - the car taking the normal racing line will have troubles making the corner in an ideal way and will not really be able to fight back on the following straight.

Of course, I am talking here about smart overtaking when having a car in front will compromise your laptimes. If you are following a driver of similar pace, it makes no sense to fight it unless in the last parts of a race, when fighting for finishing position.

@TonyTufast: Watch the Driving School videos and other streams from Tidgney - you will learn a lot about racing smart, in my view he is one of the smartest racers out there.

 

[Groundfish]

Im also sure you've played this game for much more time, so you're more experienced and you've been round the block.

I dont know what's upset you this morning, but stop taking it out on me

What upsets us is people bragging about cheating. It’s particularly annoying when those people are unskilled, by their own admission and their driving record.

So why no educate me about it? Straight in with the insults and digging though my account

Why not, as an unskilled player, show some respect? You simply don’t realize who you are talking with do you?

You came here basically bragging about the kind of move that makes some of us see red instantly.

Yes, he did.

 

[ASH32]

Also the pit lane entrance is bad.



I didn't expect them to try to cut back because to me that makes no sense here and they clearly didn't think I was going to pit, so crash time.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened more to be honest.

 

[TonyTufast]

Sorry guys. I'll pack my bags and leave the forum, I'm clearly not on your skill level, nor do I have the brain power to improve and get to your level.


Apologies for having fun with a game and sharing that. My bad right.

 

[NevilleNobody]

It's not impossible but as the video above shows, even a best case scenario slows you both down. The corner invites trouble as there appears to be room there when taking the racing line but that door closes really fast. You have to be right alongside to make it work but most morons attack from behind and it ends in tears.

T2, yeah you can try the outside to defend but it is frought with danger, it's still the easiest place to pass.

Speaking of which, I need to do something about the exit at T2, I am losing 3 to 4 tenths there to peers, and ANOTHER 3 to 4 tenths on the fast left hander (second left in the double complex). I make up time through T1 (where I am very fast) and into T3 which I seem to have mastered.

 

[Groundfish]

@TonyTufast
Maybe you ought to drop the attitude and then we would be happy to help you for free.
However, running your mouth will get you less than nothing...

“Look guys I love diving I WON”

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Sorry guys. I'll pack my bags and leave the forum, I'm clearly not on your skill level, nor do I have the brain power to improve and get to your level.


Apologies for having fun with a game and sharing that. My bad right.

There is nothing wrong with trying different things, especially from a "unskilled" player, it's part of learning what does and does not work. There is a fine line with overtaking between looking like an hero or a dick and we haven't actually seen your move.

 

[das89ca]

It's not impossible but as the video above shows, even a best case scenario slows you both down. The corner invites trouble as there appears to be room there when taking the racing line but that door closes really fast. You have to be right alongside to make it work but most morons attack from behind and it ends in tears.

T2, yeah you can try the outside to defend but it is frought with danger, it's still the easiest place to pass.

In my view l, every pass/side-by-side/fight with the exception of slipstream fly-by's on straights are causing time loss for both drivers involved. If I am attempting a pass, it is because it is necessary and I will choose the best place to make it stick - most cases for me being T1 - cause I usually have a very good exit from last corner.

But there are a lot of different drivers here, what it does work for me, will not work for others and vice versa. I even appreciate a courageous dive from time to time, when I don't need to take evading actions to avoid the diver.

 

[NevilleNobody]

In my view l, every pass/side-by-side/fight with the exception of slipstream fly-by's on straights are causing time loss for both drivers involved.

100pc but sometimes you lose a few tenths, sometimes a lot more and T1 RBR is going to see a large loss a lot of the time, it is such a critical corner, so fast and such a long straight after it, I just avoid passing there unless I have the guy on toast before we even get to the corner.

It's like across the top at Bathurst, yeah you can do it but we're both gonna suffer.