Daily races are now WEEKLY races (POLL)

Do you want DAILY races or WEEKLY races?


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(sorry for bragging about hot girls, but this is a distracting factor to consider :sly:) (from a researching point of view I suggest googling "hot latina wife", the results are intersting :lol:) (latinas are among the most demanding girls you can cross with)
Married life is very incompatible with Gran Turismo, leaves you little free time. I'm considering converting the shed and extending power and internet (at a considerable cost). And yes, I work an average of 300 hours week, which is good for money but I leave at 6:00 and comeback home at 20:00, that means zero social life and an average of 5 hours practice per week:boggled:, weekends included. I'm desperate to have a space for training (here is a post in which I'm looking for a garden shed or room to share for practice)

So for me weekly is the best, I think is similar to how it was done in GT6, right? I think in that system it was more than just a week. I haven't had time to check, is this already working weekly?

PS: if anyone between London and Rochester wants to have a wheel and a 55" TV for free, please contact me, not kidding

You are amazing!!!! By my count there are approximately 168 hours per week and you work 300 of them? Have you managed to clone yourself?? Not to be a smart ass but with roughly 4 of youse (is that a word for multiple selfs?) I would think your hot Latina wife would have a tough time keeping all of youse (theres that word again, I hope its correct) satisfied. :lol::lol:
 
You are amazing!!!! By my count there are approximately 168 hours per week and you work 300 of them? Have you managed to clone yourself?? Not to be a smart ass but with roughly 4 of youse (is that a word for multiple selfs?) I would think your hot Latina wife would have a tough time keeping all of youse (theres that word again, I hope its correct) satisfied. :lol::lol:

Perhaps he is a fourth-dimensional being and our linear time line doesn't apply to him.
 
You are amazing!!!! By my count there are approximately 168 hours per week and you work 300 of them? Have you managed to clone yourself?? Not to be a smart ass but with roughly 4 of youse (is that a word for multiple selfs?) I would think your hot Latina wife would have a tough time keeping all of youse (theres that word again, I hope its correct) satisfied. :lol::lol:
The plural of you is you. And I don't think that the details of @Kano Manel life is for this thread.
 
For anyone on twitter, please try to contact Kaz (from polyphony digital) and refer him this POLL so he can see that almost nobody wants the new daily races schedual.

His twitter account name is: "kaz_yamauchi"
https://twitter.com/kaz_yamauchi


I'm afraid, its not our feedback what effects their decisions.

There must be criterias we aren't aware of, and I guess it must have something to do with costs, otherwise I tried but I can't find any reason what justifies that radical change
 
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do[/B] encounter alien(s), who've had more time to practice, you, as a casual jump-in-once-a-week gamer are not going to beat them under any circumstances unless they make a catastrophic error.

I think it's more about having more time to get acclimated to a track you haven't seen in awhile, in a car you might not have used in a while, rather than trying to beat aliens

I do like the win but it doesn't happen very often. A good race for me is driving clean and competitive without many mistakes and finishing in the top 5 or 6, which I could only do when I have enough time. The learning curve isn't the same for everybody.

It seems to me the biggest complaint about weekly races is people don't want to get stuck with a track they don't like for a full week.

Why not make everybody happy and just add a weekly race or two, rather than changing them all to weekly
 
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You do realise that the vast majority of drivers out there do not get paid but would still drive anything , anywhere if given the opportunity?

Vast majority? :lol: Err, no.

Unless you're the most ardent hobbyist, with time and, more importantly, money to burn, most drivers get paid one way or another. For hobbyists that may just mean sponsorship from local businesses thats just about enough to feed their habit, getting them and their car to the next meet. For pro-ams, in proper racing series, that may mean sponsorship and, if they're good enough, prize money. (However, you'll probably find most pro-ams usually have enough spare wedge to play racing driver and not worry about sponsorship/prizes anyway; see Paul Hollywood of The Great British Bake Off for instance.)

Yes, there is going to be fringe cases where a driver may get called up at short notice to drive a track he/she doesn't particularly like, with or without the prospect of getting paid, but it could very well be that the driver owes / or is doing a team boss/owner a favour, or is looking to make a name for themselves and break into something more permanent, so will take the rough with the smooth. (Hell, I'd drive a ride-on lawnmower with no suspension on a track made of cobble stones if it meant I got more regular drives in real racing cars!)

In motorsport, as in life in general, nobody operates at a loss (for too long at least) unless they're independently "wealthy" outside of motorsport or they genuinely believe they're good enough and envisage big pay days in their future. This is as true for hobbyists, dragging their car on a trailer behind a battered old van around the country, as it is for F1 drivers (and teams).


It's a week, not weeks.
I don't like stupid little Japanese cars or Tsukuba, I love Suzuka and like Gr.4 but I'm not a fan of that combination, and I think St Crock is awful.

What if next week is another stupid little Japanese car (and I guarantee it will be!), a Gr.1 first-corner-SR-destroying-wreck-fest at Monza, and dull-as-dishwater enduro at Blue Moon, all of which I'd avoid like the plague?

Like I said, WEEKS.

So this gives you more time to play the combos you enjoy. I work late on a Monday and only really get a chance to do a BMB 24 mile "marathon" to get my daily car. I do a league race on a Tuesday night. I can't recall the last time I did a Sport race on a Monday/Tuesday, yet those could have been the best races ever.
No, it doesn't, because the chances of combos you really enjoy coming round have been exponentially reduced. Lets take Race B or Race C as an example:

Those are (usually) Gr.1 - 4 races. With the addition of St. Crock there are now 51 tracks/layouts but as PD don't seem to use every one for Sport Mode lets be generous and say they only use about half that, which, for the sake of simplicity, we'll call it 25. To run through every combination of on a daily schedule would take 100 days. However on a weekly schedule to run the same 25 tracks and every class combination would take 700 days (nearly 2 YEARS!).​

Congratulations, you got to do that one combination you really enjoy for a week, or get to do on Wednesday that combination you saw on Monday, but kiss goodbye to it because you may never see it again before GT7 (or 8, or GTSport 2, or whatever its going to called is released) and the servers for GTS are switched off.
Meanwhile those of us who are fortunate enough to have jobs, or lives, which afford us a little more time than most (or the unemployed, or students, etc) potentially have to put up with weeks of stuff we don't like. Brilliant. :banghead:

What PD should have done is publish proper schedules in advance so people can plan ahead (shift/swap days off, send the significant other / kids on a day out, not do that DIY project you've been promising your significant other you'd do for months, fake illness/death etc) if it really mattered that much.

Or, better still, they could have simply added two weekly races to the current line-up, so:
  • Race A - One-make weekly, track change daily.
  • Race B - Daily sprint.
  • Race C - Daily endurance.
  • Race D - Weekly sprint.
  • Race E - Weekly endurance.
This would have satisfied everyone, but oh no, thats waaaaaaaaaaay too simple for PD.

If PD was one of those companies that has a strap-line/motto on their logo it would be this:

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With all due respect, that is a weak argument. This is a FIA sanctioned arcade-sim-racing game, designed for competition. Weekly races will rise the level of the competition and will make players better drivers.
Complaining about a competitive game being competitive is like complaining about honey being sweet. If you don't like competitive racing, then... don't eat honey.

Why is this happening?
In my opinion is because the level of this community is so low that is appalling:

only 4% of players have finished the campaign*
only 10% is over level 30*
71% of players is still in rank D*
However, the distance driven in general is quite high, which is concerning because the relation level to distance is actually very poor.*

IMO this is not just another Gran Turismo, I consider this game (and I call it) Gran Turismo FIA. In what other game you get real FIA officials to act as referee? This is a competition game, and the level of competition right now is ridiculous. Anything they do to rise the level of competition is very welcome IMO.

With 300 hours of work per month, a university degree, a magazine to edit every month and a hot latina wife to keep happy, I still managed to get a high position in my region with Nissan.
With weekly races the level of the competition is going to be higher, but will also give me more hours to get a better qualifying time and be more competitive. To be honest I couldn't be happier.



* Stats available at http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php

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Of all your stats I would say that keeping your Latina wife happy without really having enough time is the most worrying

And the serious answer is that you are not the average player, at least I hope not. Most have more time for playing and would rather like it different. I personally decided to learn the new track in sport mode, it's staying there for a week, why bother with training
 
If PD was one of those companies that has a strap-line/motto on their logo it would be this:

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That did make me laugh, but in all fairness you have zero idea why PD implemented this change, so you are in zero position to comment on how much sense it makes.... and when I say you I mean everyone that's coming up with their own schedules. If you don't know what issue PD were attempting to address, you can't come up with a better suggestion.
 
I remember PD changed their approach on dailies when GT Sport was launched with all the feedback from us (game was released with the races changing after 3/4 days. The open beta changed everyday).

I'm sure they will change it back again.
 
https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/news/00_3960825.html



This big change deserves its own thread. Are people happy with this? This has ruined my day! We had this set up at the start of the game and people didn't enjoy it. Isn't that why they changed it daily races? Think about it. Lets say the weekly race list is a set of three tracks you typically despise. You might not pick up the game for an entire week now instead of a day? Doesn't that push players away? Doesn't that hurt the player count? This is a horrible, not asked for, unnecessary change. We needed an EXTENSION of the daily race slots. Not a continuance of crap tracks for a week. I am furious. How do you feel? Discuss.



Completely agree! I hate this change. Who in the world likes LESS variety!? God some of these guys slurp the game creators like they work for them or have stock in the company. It’s OK to complain people, otherwise things won’t change!
Bottom line it’s the trait I hate most about this game. It slow and sometimes completely defiant responses to what ITS PURCHASERS WANT. From no gold logo for completing all tracks at gold level (NO sense) to the penalty system, to LOOSING points for bottom half race finishes. Where in the racing world do your points or status as a racer go DOWN with a 9th place finish!?!?
How bout this.
Make ONE race weekly, a one make that’s grx or a one make that isn’t a crap car, 2 daily races gr1-gr4
 
riddles and mysteries presented by PD...

What the hell could have gone through their heads?


LOVE Kudos Prime, and no doubt. They are pissy at doing their own thing despite what players want. They will regret this if someone from their team splits off, copies the physics engine and corrects penalty system, gives awesome stats like kudos does and ADAPTS TO PLAYER PREFERENCE
 
If you don't know what issue PD were attempting to address, you can't come up with a better suggestion.

You have a point, we don't have all their data of what players are doing/ prefering, we don't know their contracts, we don't know their long- time strategy and also not their financial situation and/or under what kind of pressures they are or what human manpower ressources they have.

But somehow your comments sounds for me like "the ways of the Lord are unfathomable" (I hope meaning was not lost in google translation)

WE, the player base, should be the main criteria for PD, and I think in this forum the player base is represented, and not only the very fans.

If the reason changing to weekly is based on financial reasons, I'd fully understand it, but if they think more players will come back to daylies, I'm pretty sure they're wrong.

But, who am I, right?
 
I think this is an awful decision, and could possibly kill the game. I'm more likely to skip weeks at a time because the track/car combos often stink. Less time play it sport, means more time playing other games. Not sure what PD was thinking. I could live with it if they had at least added a few more weekly options.


What’s really coincidental is COD just released their “days of summer” online community event. Lots of limited time cool stuff to play hours to earn and now me with little motivation to play THE SAME races again today or the rest of the week. Odd but I guess happy coincidence until PD gets to changing BACK AGAIN to daily races after we all complain.... again. Jesus monopolies suck. No real other racing game to compete with GT and thus no real motivation for them make or maintain significant changes.
 
probably the best is just to mix them, it makes sense. The quality of the driving might get better if we have a couple of permanent races for a week, that would encourage people to improve, and make a better qualy trial, we might even get cleaner racing (day dreaming?)

And for those who wants variation (for any reason, not judging) have another 2 that changes every day.
in this forum the player base is represented

the player base might be a lot of people, but only a small % really understand what this game is about. If PD is going to take decisions based solely in the player base then the game will be a mess, just a reflection of the racing quality (again, not judging, I don't consider myself a good clean racer, I'm part of the big crowd of SR roller-coaster) The majority is not always right
 
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I forget how the community reacted when they first went from weekly races to daily races? Does anyone remember?
 
That did make me laugh, but in all fairness you have zero idea why PD implemented this change, so you are in zero position to comment on how much sense it makes.... and when I say you I mean everyone that's coming up with their own schedules. If you don't know what issue PD were attempting to address, you can't come up with a better suggestion.

The logo thing was more a dig in general, not just this one particular issue; like, for instance, after 21 years, they still can't make even marginally competitive AI. Whoever thought that rolling roadblocks that always do 10-30mph less than necessary through corners was a job well done needs to be sacked immediately, if they're still there, and never allowed near a compiler, via punishment of death, ever again. Anyway, I digress.

My theory (I'm allowed that at least, right?) is PD are doing this purely for their GT Academy, not for us (probably) slightly-more-than-average gamers. Daily races give PD just a snapshot, an indication of who has potential. Weekly races allow them to build up a significantly better statistical "picture"; Who is just a one-golden-lap wonder but bottles it in races? Who can turn a not-so-strong quali position into race wins? Who is a strong all-rounder?

This change is for them to really drill down into the best of the best, the 0.1%, giving them longer to battle it out under rarely changing conditions (by that I mean class/track, not weather :lol:), the ones that will potentially end up making them the most money? What, you thought PD don't make a penny from their GT Academy business? Who wants to take the bet that a GT Academy contract will have a 2-5 year "future potential earnings" clause buried in there somewhere? Anyone? Anyone? No, thought not lol.
 
I'll love weekly races when it is Blue Moon Bay oval. When it's Tsukuba, Gr.4 and a un-balanced BoP like this week I'm not so keen.
 
I'll love weekly races when it is Blue Moon Bay oval. When it's Tsukuba, Gr.4 and a un-balanced BoP like this week I'm not so keen.

I've had a few good wins at BMB and BB Raceway. Qualified well and started 1st and a group of 3rds. Will look forward to this combination when it comes up again 👍

The last time it came up recently
 
I've had a few good wins at BMB and BB Raceway. Qualified well and started 1st and a group of 3rds. Will look forward to this combination when it comes up again 👍

The last time it came up recently


Yawn. Pointlessly jockeying for position at the front of a pack on an oval? Okay then :confused:

Weaving and dropping down onto the apron in an attempt to break slipstreaming. You have absolutely no business on a race track. Pathetic "racing".
 
Yawn. Pointlessly jockeying for position at the front of a pack on an oval? Okay then :confused:

Weaving and dropping down onto the apron in an attempt to break slipstreaming. You have absolutely no business on a race track. Pathetic "racing".
Cool story...

Maybe try to troll someone who cares about what you think? :lol:
 
My theory (I'm allowed that at least, right?) is PD are doing this purely for their GT Academy, not for us (probably) slightly-more-than-average gamers. Daily races give PD just a snapshot, an indication of who has potential. Weekly races allow them to build up a significantly better statistical "picture"; Who is just a one-golden-lap wonder but bottles it in races? Who can turn a not-so-strong quali position into race wins? Who is a strong all-rounder?

This change is for them to really drill down into the best of the best, the 0.1%, giving them longer to battle it out under rarely changing conditions (by that I mean class/track, not weather :lol:), the ones that will potentially end up making them the most money? What, you thought PD don't make a penny from their GT Academy business? Who wants to take the bet that a GT Academy contract will have a 2-5 year "future potential earnings" clause buried in there somewhere? Anyone? Anyone? No, thought not lol.

I think that's a bit of a reach. Firstly, I thought GT Academy ceased a couple of years ago when Nissan pulled their support? Secondly, I don't see how changing to weekly events actually gives them a better chance of getting a someone who'll go on to make a lot of money. Thirdly, it would be a bit of a lousy money making scheme for any party involved, given the cost to implement (I suspect it was all about marketing for PD and Nissan to be honest). I mean unless they launch somebodies career to the sharp end of F1, they're not going to make that much money out of contracts compared to.. say, charging for the DLC packs they're putting out for free.
 
GT Academy ceased a couple of years ago
Yeah, you're right. Its FIA sanctioned E-Sports tournaments now, same but different.


I don't see how changing to weekly events actually gives them a better chance of getting a someone who'll go on to make a lot of money.
You don't see how a 168 hours is potentially better than 24 for building up statistics for analysis? Seriously? You get why scientists and engineers repeat the same experiments over and over again, right?


It would be a bit of a lousy money making scheme for any party involved
Any? Now thats a stretch. It may not have been a (massive) money spinner directly for Nissan or Sony/PD, as groups, but you can guarantee that someone, in there somewhere (Nissan/Sony/PD), will have had their slice of cake and thats enough for them.

Same with E-Sports tournaments. If there was no money in them they'd still be just LAN parties in basements. They may not be making all of a tournaments organisation team rich but you can bet at least one is getting a pretty nice slice of cake.
 
The plural of you is you. And I don't think that the details of @Kano Manel life is for this thread.

Aye-aye sir, being a stickler for details is the bane of my existence, I was merely pointing out what appears to be a mathematical improbabilty. I guess that's what happens to mathletes when we become adults, we dont have sports to consume our attention. Tally hoo.:)
 
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