Daily roulette is rigged.
- Thread starter hicker
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- Austin
- SleezyBigSlim
Computers aren't random though and GT Sport is a a computer game. There's no such thing as random in computing in 2018 we still have a long way to go. The roulette was programmed to give certain cars at certain times. Just like in Destiny the loot drops are programmed. Nothing random about it. Devs talk out their ass.
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- Blackburn
- Furinkazen_54
It really isn't.
He is talking about computers cannot make a %100 random value. He is right about it but that doesnt have much to do with our topic.
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- CommanderCyclops
I think if it was strictly predetermined, we’d have a reference thread by now and we’d be able to look up what our next car is. I think it is predetermined, but can be changed by PD. Clearly, when new cars or events are added, the odds of getting those cars on the spinner increase, at least for a while. Do we even know if the software controlling the spinner is on our consoles or on PSN servers? If it’s on PSN, it could be changed constantly and would be pretty close to being truely random.
The fact that people are getting lots of cr20,000 cars and no cr20mil cars indicates more random than determined. There are simply far more cr20,000 than cr20mil cars in the pool. If it were rigged, I can’t imagine why they would give us so many duplicates.
Also, as others have pointed out, a lot of people are falling for the gambler’s fallacy. The spinner doesn’t care what’s already in your garage, nor what you’ve gotten on previous spins. None of that affects the current spin at all. Every time I’ve sat down at a roulette wheel in Vegas, someone always says something like “6 hasn’t come up in a while. It’s due!”, and the casinos even have readouts showing the last 50 or so numbers. And people apparently think the casinos are doing that to help them, rather than to encourage them to blow more money.
The fact that people are getting lots of cr20,000 cars and no cr20mil cars indicates more random than determined. There are simply far more cr20,000 than cr20mil cars in the pool. If it were rigged, I can’t imagine why they would give us so many duplicates.
Also, as others have pointed out, a lot of people are falling for the gambler’s fallacy. The spinner doesn’t care what’s already in your garage, nor what you’ve gotten on previous spins. None of that affects the current spin at all. Every time I’ve sat down at a roulette wheel in Vegas, someone always says something like “6 hasn’t come up in a while. It’s due!”, and the casinos even have readouts showing the last 50 or so numbers. And people apparently think the casinos are doing that to help them, rather than to encourage them to blow more money.
Although I'm fairly new to GTS gift cars aren't rigged imo. Have had a few expensive cars show up. Unfortunately I haven't won any of the 20 million cars yet but have certainly won a couple of cars worth >1million. Regardless, these should be seen as gifts.
I do agree with other ideas though, such as daily credits for login, prizes for campaign mode and level up.
I do agree with other ideas though, such as daily credits for login, prizes for campaign mode and level up.
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- G_ASHER
If the garage would show the date the cars were acquired, it might enable us to make sense of it. I'd sure like to know why I've gotten a dozen Focus rally cars and a lot of Renault Clios and Meganes. I got my 4th Subaru BRZ last night and my 4 or 5th Gr. 3 Ferrari today.
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- oppsijustkilledu
Just coming here to say that I received a the 20mil jag a while back, the Mercedes F1, X2014, Vulcan and a contact over the last few months. The OP is just getting unlucky.
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- Gent Ghent Gand
- svenvangent968
Like the casino's in real world .
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- nowcontrol
Guess which car I got from that lot?????
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGED AF!!!!!!
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- Gibson_Washburn
PD can get rid of the "gift" cars completely.
It would make for more skilled drivers and here's why: If I want a car, in a matter of minutes, I raise the money and buy exactly what I want. Who cares about some 'throwback' 20mil car? What can you do with them, you can't race them. Are you going to show them to your family and friends? I highly doubt they care... Nevertheless, buy 'em if that's your game.
Now, to raise money, run through the trainings and campaign races. Not only do people earn their cars per their skills, they also become better drivers on the track to race beside. In nearly every race there is some driver in desperate need of training.
The guys at PD have done and are doing an amazing job and have far more to worry about as stewards than keeping tabs on everyone's free car collection. I want them to focus on eliminating the dirty drivers who are on a mission to exploit the game to get ahead and ruin it for the people that take it seriously.
Just my two cents. I had to comment because I hear this complaint all the time and it really is nothing worth complaining about. UNLESS you are prevented somehow from buying what you want to buy. Then I can see being upset.
It would make for more skilled drivers and here's why: If I want a car, in a matter of minutes, I raise the money and buy exactly what I want. Who cares about some 'throwback' 20mil car? What can you do with them, you can't race them. Are you going to show them to your family and friends? I highly doubt they care... Nevertheless, buy 'em if that's your game.
Now, to raise money, run through the trainings and campaign races. Not only do people earn their cars per their skills, they also become better drivers on the track to race beside. In nearly every race there is some driver in desperate need of training.
The guys at PD have done and are doing an amazing job and have far more to worry about as stewards than keeping tabs on everyone's free car collection. I want them to focus on eliminating the dirty drivers who are on a mission to exploit the game to get ahead and ruin it for the people that take it seriously.
Just my two cents. I had to comment because I hear this complaint all the time and it really is nothing worth complaining about. UNLESS you are prevented somehow from buying what you want to buy. Then I can see being upset.
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- serlemke
its probably just some algorithm that adjusts probability: the higher the value of the car the less chances to get selected, and probability adjusted strong giving the usual results, I would guess something around:
65 % to get the cheaper/common,
23 % de second worst,
10 % the second best and
2 % to win the best.
65 % to get the cheaper/common,
23 % de second worst,
10 % the second best and
2 % to win the best.
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- GO6DoRiFUt0
- gtun3d
Last night after throwing an F40 around for like half an hour, I got a choice between the F1000, Audi LMP, Subaru GR3 and something else that I already had. I figured I was gonna get my sixth Subaru GR3.
I got the F1000 to my surprise.
The roulette isn't rigged. It's as people have said, it's selection of 4 cars from the massive amount already in the game, so your chances are relatively small. It's like saying the lottery is rigged cause you don't always win.
Just go throw a car around a track for a bit, have some fun. If you get a good car, you get a good car, if you don't, try tomorrow.
I got the F1000 to my surprise.
The roulette isn't rigged. It's as people have said, it's selection of 4 cars from the massive amount already in the game, so your chances are relatively small. It's like saying the lottery is rigged cause you don't always win.
Just go throw a car around a track for a bit, have some fun. If you get a good car, you get a good car, if you don't, try tomorrow.
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- BallPtPenTheif
- BallPtPenTheif
I honestly don't think they have the time enough to care and build a complex dynamic algorithm with the sole intent of screwing everyone. You honestly wouldn't even have to when the natural odds of the car distribution would do that for you anyways.
Its extremely easy to do. Just decrease the chance you dont own and increase the others.
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- Canada
I do think it is predetermined, but I think there may be a couple different algorithms and or car sets that determine what you get based on how/what you play. I don't have a pile of evidence to support this, but here's why I think/speculate so. A friend and I were comparing our garages. He likes playing with the vision cars and hyperfast prototypes and on average his daily gifts had more Group X and Gran Tourismo / concept cars. I barely touch that stuff. I play mostly Group 3/4 and on average I have more group 3/4/B cars as my gift cars. Actually, when I say on average, both of us receive duplicates on average the most. I don't think it's random, there is pre-determinism in there and it looks like they tried, maybe, to tailor it to be appealing to the player's specific interest. The execution kinda sorta failed though didn't it? Anyway, I just wish they'd respond to the legitimate usability problem of duplicates. It clogs the garage, it's a pain to remove them and just wastes time. Give us the option to decline, or a 1/4 of the cars value in credits or whatever. Just don't give me one button to press when it's not "ok" 
For all the talk of things taking long to develop around here it would not be difficult for an algorithm to determine what is in the garage already or, even simpler, a button that says "Decline".
For all the talk of things taking long to develop around here it would not be difficult for an algorithm to determine what is in the garage already or, even simpler, a button that says "Decline".
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- G_ASHER
That's not applicable in my case. I almost never drive Gr. B, yet I've gotten more Focus rally cars across two accounts than anything else. I wasn't fibbing when I wrote in my post above that I have a dozen of them, probably more because I've "rage-deleted" some of them.
If anything, I think it's related to your IP address. I've received the same car on the same day in the same color more than a few times on both my accounts.
I do like the idea of a decline button. They could also add a "get in the car" button like when you purchase a car.
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I think I have 7 Alfa Romeo Mito’s. Somehow I doubt anybody has 7 Lamborghini Miuras 
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