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Damage on all cars confirmed by IGN
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On the other hand, what we're seeing now corresponds almost directly with the "interior design corresponds to damage" translations of the leaked feature list. (i.e. on some cars, doors and hoods will fly open, at which point you can see the inside of the carsdriver, engine, etc.)
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I still think that's a pretty big stretch of meaning you are doing there... especially since you can see the interiors of all cars through the windows regardless of damage.
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It wouldnt be just better, it would be realistic. "The Real Driving Simulator" remember.
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I agree, if this was simply about fixing damage, then it could'nt explain why other items could have still been presented at TGS. While working around these issues. of corse there was Bill Gates moment while presenting Windows (blue screen of death). There seems to be a much bigger issue that PD is addressing.
A lack of a specific day in March, would seem to conclude that there is the possibility of a further delay beyond such date.
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I don't see how it's a stretch, since it fits perfectly with what's been confirmed. Also, while you can see some of the interior through the window, you can't see as much you'd be able to see post-damage, like the driver's legs, engine bays, etc.
Here's what I'm wondering
If the stuff like doors being ripped off is reserved for "racing cars," does that mean if you get a Full Race Conversion on your Civic, will it be bumped up to the better damage model?
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I dunno, I have seen a lot of angle on replays, and while you can see an awful lot of the interior.
Here's another thing... what would be the point of making that deliniation as cars without premium damage won't have doors flying open to see anyway...
I think it means production vs non production cars. ie an upgraded civic will not be a race car becuase it's still a production car, modified, but still a produciton car.
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Excuse me, but don't you give your sources way too much credit? Company executives often leak some information. They do this in order to appear interesting and to show they are "in the loop". Often these types only heard something from someone else they know within their company who is actually involved (and sometimes even from an entirely different business unit).
Even internal documents are not really a source since they're often already outdated or obfuscated on purpose to make external people none the wiser. Sad thing is that these documents probably contain the author's names who are not responsible for the leak at all so your'e absolutely right to dislcose nothing at all!
Also, ongoing projects often deviate from their intended plan and features get added or de-scoped as they proceed, so people not within the inner circle of development outdate very quickly.
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Better is rather subjective, we wont argue that.
When a car flips, gets hit by another car going 100mph+ and flips again, but manages to still drive away is no less realistic than it doing all that with some scratches and dents. Both scenarios (with scratches and dents and without) are utterly unrealistic, and that is what we will be stuck with.
And all 4 tires will have air pressure too:tdown:
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True, but you still can't see the engine bay, which is more "interior" than the cabin.
I think that was the whole point. "Some cars can be damaged so much you can even see the insides," which is exactly what IGN confirmed to be the case.
Could be, yes. I was just wondering if the delineation was "has a roll cage," since that's what that one dev hypothesized was allowing them to have the doors ripped off and still be cool with the manufacturers. Presumably, the FRC would add a roll cage, thus making ripping off the doors a kosher thing to do.
Plus, perhaps I'm not remembering clearly, but in past games, didn't getting the FRC prevent you from entering races restricted to "production cars"? I seem to remember there being cases where going FCR penalized you in some way, and I'm pretty sure that was it. In other words, it seems like doing the FCR means it's no longer a "production car" and is now a "race car."
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I think most people would agree with that statement.
I tend to think of realistic as being a black and white term, not much of a gray area. (semantics)
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Yes if the interior referred to is the engine bay, then that makes mores sense. Interior to me has always sounded like cockpit.
Could be, yes. I was just wondering if the delineation was "has a roll cage," since that's what that one dev hypothesized was allowing them to have the doors ripped off and still be cool with the manufacturers. Presumably, the FRC would add a roll cage, thus making ripping off the doors a kosher thing to do.[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of possiblities, but I tend to go with the simpler ones like an easy deliniation between race and production cars... keeps things clean and simple and makes licensing choices a little easier.
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