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Definitely is a crazy co-incidence 
sick as it sounds but not to offend ... incidences like these so close together make the Final Destination movie franchise seem almost possible as if there could be some strange force with a plan to wreak havoc
Thank god this time no one was hurt .. it's a mad world we live in for sure
sick as it sounds but not to offend ... incidences like these so close together make the Final Destination movie franchise seem almost possible as if there could be some strange force with a plan to wreak havoc
Thank god this time no one was hurt .. it's a mad world we live in for sure
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Rally drivers are no longer allowed in helocopters
Technically Dave Richards wasn't a driver, he was Ari Vatanen's co-driver between '79 and and '81; but that small detail aside it is a bloody strange co-incidence.
Just glad that all aboard are OK, we've had enough tragedy for one weekend.
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Well this is the "David Richard walked out of the crashed helicopter without injury"-thread, so I don't really see a problem.
A helicopter is a dangerous machine. Because when your engine stops you fall down to the ground like a stone, wheras a plane can still be handled most of the time.
It's not that I made a "joke" about McRae...
The ugly-Impreza thing was a reference to your "scary" "freaky" etc comments. While I agree that it is a little strange, in the end it's nothing more than coincidence. There is no anti-Subaru-rallye conspiracy
Maybe my response was a little too short and therefor misunderstood.
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"I'm thankful Mr. Richards is ok." ? Why ? Is he a relative of yours ? No offense, but thousands of people die every day.
David didn't die, well nice for him, but .... you know... end of story.
No need to be overserious if you ask me...
A helicopter is a dangerous machine. Because when your engine stops you fall down to the ground like a stone, wheras a plane can still be handled most of the time.
It's not that I made a "joke" about McRae...
The ugly-Impreza thing was a reference to your "scary" "freaky" etc comments. While I agree that it is a little strange, in the end it's nothing more than coincidence. There is no anti-Subaru-rallye conspiracy
Maybe my response was a little too short and therefor misunderstood.
@ Danachronism
"I'm thankful Mr. Richards is ok." ? Why ? Is he a relative of yours ? No offense, but thousands of people die every day.
David didn't die, well nice for him, but .... you know... end of story.
No need to be overserious if you ask me...
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Not true...
http://www.copters.com/pilot/hvcurve.html
..helicopters can land safely after an engine failure, it depends on the pilot. It would however be true to say that helecopter are more difficult to pilot and more sensitive to adverse weather conditions.
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I'm not Mr. Richards biggest fan, but i don't wish him dead or hurt.
On the 'Is he a relative of yours' front i don't think you need to be realted to them or even know them personaly to be saddend when they die/get hurt/escape injury. Like Colin McRae i don't know him, but im gutted he's died. I grew up watching him on tv and so, thats why its affected me.
I do get your point about your joke, Dave wasn't killed so it was 'ok' to say it.
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I see. Didn't know that. But as you said it is rather difficult and depending on many factors. Even military pilots seem to have a hard time escaping such situations. At least I think so, since I don't know any statistics and while a crashed helicopter is big news, a safe landing after engine failure isn't.
Well of course I also have no reason to wish him dead or hurt as you said.
As to the rest of your post or compassion/sympathy for a dead person and their friends and family in general, I'm a bit sceptical.
And even if your ( or anybody's ) feelings are true, are they really as morally correct as they seem to be ? Or isn't it more a mix between egoism and wrong interpretation of your own feelings ?
Let me explain : Imo only family and friends, and to a certain degree people who knew him can really be affected by somebody's death. Because such feelings require a kind of relationship.
In this case, some people believe to know Colin personally because they remember having good times in front of the TV/Playstation or at a Rallye event. The fact that they know a lot about him ( media coverage etc ) doesn't mean that there is a true relationship to him.
If you would die in a helicopter crash, Colin would give a **** about that.
second aspect :
Now that he is dead, they can't enjoy his perfect driving anymore. > egoism.
That is my opinion. All that is the result of unreflected interpretation of feelings.
If you read the news : 1000 people killed in civil war in country x. Of course you won't party, instead you'll say : Damn, what a tragedy. But you can't really care. Of course you can support actions against violence etc as a reaction, but you can't be *really* sad. It is just a projection.
The world is full of this and it annoys me sometimes. Media supports that btw.
Thosuands of children die every week, shot, by hunger or raped to death in some backstreet in Manila.
At the same time hundrets of people stand in front of Lady Diana's house and cry. People that know her from "The sun " articles and TV coverage.
It's ridiculous...
However I don't want to attack anybody here, your feelings, your business, not mine. I just want you to think about this.
Btw I study medcine at a university, a lot of psychology included. I saw many people die, and it's not that I'm a guy who doesn't care about anybody except myself.
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I get where your coming from, i didnt mean to sound like i was attacking your view.
I agree with quite a few thing you said in the above post.
I lost a close friend last year i do feel more saddend by his death than of Mr McRae. But im not the person just to say 'sorry to hear the bad news of XXX's death.' or make a big fuss about them i have never heard of them or know little about him. Of course some of it is about my moral view.
Sorry if it sounded like i was attacking your view.
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