Davis's Cars - I bought a Honda with a stupid wing

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Really their back story in general is fairly interesting, a mix of occasionally brilliant cars and horrific mis-management. A lot of their cars simply made the best of a bad situation - the 1990s Rover 400 could have been better than it was, but Rover's tie with Honda at the time meant compromising with Honda on a bunch of things they'd have preferred to change. And then Honda picked up its toys and left when BMW bought Rover, which hurt them a bit too.

Unfortunately by the time they started producing really good stuff in the late 90s and onward, their slide into oblivion couldn't really be halted.

Given how successful MINI has been under BMW, it's a pity BMW didn't keep Rover for a little longer - a few more MINI-like hits and the company could have been turned around.

As for the concepts, yeah, some were an acquired taste. And probably wouldn't have been as successful as the MINI. Though they were a great deal more forward-thinking - Rover wanted to produce a genuinely clever small car, BMW a sporty FWD hatchback. In the end, companies like Mercedes and Audi actually did the former with the original A-Class and the A2, so there was clearly a market there for such things.

(Apologies, I'll not derail this any further - feel free to PM me if you'd like to talk BMW/Rover!)
 
This is ridiculous.
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Saw this ad for an MC40 in a car-sale magazine. Somebody wants 25k for it. My car has everything that this one listed has, just with with 55,000 more miles. This one may only have 15,500 miles, but 25 grand for a 10 year old Cooper S is insane.

I bought mine for less than half of what these people want. :lol:
 
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Fourteen in all.

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Only 3 1st-gen cars showed up, including me. But a lot of cool R56s and a trio of Countrymen showed up.

Two F56S's showed up... they're better in person, for sure, and the dark colors make the front blend together a bit more. They sound fantastic.





Getting onto the freeway, I was behind an R56S roadster. I was just a hair faster flat out. Looks like the modifications are working. :P
 
Looking good. The coupe looks much better with the roof down than up IMO. I still think the newest gen is pretty bloated and a little fugly though.
 
How can the Coupe look good with the roof down when it's a Coupe? Do you mean the Roadster?
 
I got some wires crossed. For a minute I thought the coupe had a retractable hard top. The coupe looks really weird IMO and thought that the red roadster with the top down was actually the coupe with its top down. :lol:
 
I always think the Coupe looks like it's wearing a baseball cap backwards. :dopey:
 
Always thought the roofs looked like these.
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Looking good. The coupe looks much better with the roof down than up IMO. I still think the newest gen is pretty bloated and a little fugly though.

Seeing it in person, it's definitely less bloated. What looks big and annoying in pictures doesn't bother me too much in real life. I'd still take my R53 any day though.
 
I always think the Coupe looks like it's wearing a baseball cap backwards. :dopey:
That, I believe, is what it's designed to replicate. That's the rumour anyway - designers have a habit of picking up ideas from daft things, and this time it was the designer's son coming in one day with his cap on backwards.

Personally, I think it looks more like a flat cap than a baseball cap, so I'm claiming the car as an honourary Yorkshireman.

It's a pity it's so ungainly as I like the concept though. I quite like two-seater cars but I feel like that particular one could have been done a lot better.
That pic reminds me of one thing I'm not so keen on, with the first-gen MINI - the leather seats look seriously cheap.

I've no idea what kind of leather MINI used but it's very shiny and seems to age really badly. I'd be very tempted to find some nice aftermarket units in the same red and black, would make a hell of a difference to the interior.
 
I've no idea what kind of leather MINI used but it's very shiny and seems to age really badly. I'd be very tempted to find some nice aftermarket units in the same red and black, would make a hell of a difference to the interior.

I think the seats look fine, but some nice aftermarkets would also be neat, methinks.
 
That pic reminds me of one thing I'm not so keen on, with the first-gen MINI - the leather seats look seriously cheap.

I've no idea what kind of leather MINI used but it's very shiny and seems to age really badly. I'd be very tempted to find some nice aftermarket units in the same red and black, would make a hell of a difference to the interior.
Well, the seats are on their 10th year now, so the small amount of wear that is on the driver's seat is justified, to me.

I seriously considered some red racing seats, but I'm having a hard time justifying dropping 2k on some Sparco Milanos, or even the Recaros that fit in the car. If the seats were the cheapo-leatherette/cloth ones that came standard, I wouldn't feel so bad. :dopey:

I do love the Recaro Sportsters that are in the GPs, though.

I think the seats look fine

Zyla can confirm, his butt has witnessed them.
 
Well, the seats are on their 10th year now, so the small amount of wear that is on the driver's seat is justified, to me.
Not wear, so much as they get ruffled up really easily in a way that takes higher-quality leather seats decades to do. The "ass-print" effect.

But yeah, getting the right aftermarket seats can be damn expensive.
 
Well, the seats are on their 10th year now, so the small amount of wear that is on the driver's seat is justified, to me.

I seriously considered some red racing seats, but I'm having a hard time justifying dropping 2k on some Sparco Milanos, or even the Recaros that fit in the car. If the seats were the cheapo-leatherette/cloth ones that came standard, I wouldn't feel so bad. :dopey:

I do love the Recaro Sportsters that are in the GPs, though.



Zyla can confirm, his butt has witnessed them.
I love the sportster CS seats, probably what will go in the M3 eventually. The only seats I like more are the BMW Performance ones :drool:
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While I love my Sportster seats, would I upgrade I would take the Recarp Pole, simply because of the weight. Doesn't even need to be the full carbon ones. I think the pole go for around 600-700€ per seat.

Looks like a cool event the rallye 👍
 
Not wear, so much as they get ruffled up really easily in a way that takes higher-quality leather seats decades to do. The "ass-print" effect.
The 40 year old seat out of a 308 that I use for gaming still doesn't have ass prints. lol
 
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SR-65, Utah. I've been waiting for this road to open up since I saw it was gated off when I took a drive a few months ago in the winter. It wasn't scheduled to open until June 1st, but out of curiosity, I checked the road closure website. It opened last night at around 5pm.

Filled the Mini up with gas, topped off the oil, and hit the road. The weather was brutal, a flash rainstorm started as I got onto the freeway. I hydroplaned a couple times on the freeway leading to the mouth of Parley's Canyon, and I was about to call it quits, when the rain started to fade. Had one of the scariest drives of my life up Parley's Canyon (It's a 70 mile an hour, 3 lane freeway that cuts through the canyon, not at all ideal for bad weather) but I needed to drive it if I wanted to get to East Canyon, or SR-65. Finally, the exit came, but the rain continued.

I turned onto the road that leads to the canyon, and the rain held steady. It soon became obvious that I was one of the first to drive the road this year. I could hear gravel hitting my wheel wells, and all sorts of small debris was strewn across the road.

The road narrowed at the mouth of East Canyon, but the rain held steady. The trees lining the road gave way to a steep cliff face on one side, and a drop-off on the other. I kept on because the road was just starting to get interesting.

About halfway up, the Mini flashed at me that it was below 37 degrees outside. Snow started to fall, on top of rain. A slick, sleety, mush covered the road, which was now cluttered with large rocks that had fallen over the winter. It was a surreal feeling, being the only one on this driving heaven, while Mother Nature gave her protest.

This is what it was like in the 1964 Monte Carlo, I thought. I truly felt like Paddy Hopkirk, piloting the car that mine pays homage to.
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I had reached the summit. The weather cleared and a thick layer of fog covered the valley below. It was stunning. I kept going until I found a dirt patch off the side of the road to stop and take some pictures.


I was now descending into the valley opposite of where I entered. Snowy pines turned into budding aspens, and the road began to straighten out. Switchbacks gave way to undulating hills and the rain was only a slight drizzle at this point. The road mimicked the coast of the reservoir that it bordered, and the Mini tackled it perfectly. I held it in 4th, but occasionally dropped down to 3rd for some of the tighter corners. With the windows slightly cracked, I could hear the chirping of birds and the sound of the Bridgestones sloshing through yet another puddle.

Eventually the road led into a small town called Henefer. Not interested in what the town had to offer, I turned onto a single-lane road that divided two farms. The rain stopped and the valley was a beautiful, vibrant green.

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The road turned into a bland neighborhood filled with cars that seem to have stopped existing past 1999. I didn't feel like causing trouble by turning this sleepy road into my own racetrack, so I left and turned back around.

I got lost in the beauty and perfection of the road, and missed a turn that it took. I went straight through onto SR-66, which I didn't even know existed. I wasn't even half a mile in, before being warned by several signs that said for the next 3 and 1/2 miles, there were many sub-15 mph turns. And unlike the previous road, this wasn't a neighborhood. I'll spare you the details, but I doubled the speed limit 75% of the time I was there.

Much like SR-65, SR-66 spit me out in another small town, of which I had zero interest. The only thing that caught my eye was a purple C6 Corvette. I envy the owner, who probably gets to experience these roads on a daily basis. I turned around, and was greeted by a tractor driving down the opposite side. This was truly a small town.

I got back onto SR-65, and the clouds had completely cleared, as well as much of the snow that had fallen. I climbed back up the mountain, this time without the hazards of bad weather. The Mini tackled it without any protest. One corner after another.

I reached a lookout point that was previously covered in fog, and got out to take the picture that prefaces this story. Looking back to the Mini, I saw something out of place.

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I had murdered a bird somewhere in the process and didn't even notice. And instead of falling off of the car after being hit, his foot had been lodged between the plastic lip and the grille. I dragged this poor corpse along for at least 60 miles. I hope he had one hell of a ride.

I went back down the way I came, free from any bad weather. SR-65 and SR-66 are now easily within my top 5 roads that I've driven.

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I assume the poor bird fell off on the freeway when I hit a violent bump. The only trace of him when I got back was a feather on my back window, and a few tufts in the front grille.

These are the rest of the pictures I took that didn't fit into the story.
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The contrast between red-rock and snow was beautiful.
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Underneath the layer of fog. Directly ahead, behind those clouds is where I took the first picture.
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Behind that corner is a nasty field of fallen rocks.
 
Brilliant little story. I envy you for having roads like that. I'm definitely going to Utah one day.

also rip in piece bird never forgottun </4
 
Excellent story. 👍

Nice pictures too. Glad to hear you had fun.
 
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