I can understand why PD don't give out all the info and it's to do with hype. If you announce a new game and then give out all the info a month later what you'll see happen is there will be loads of hype surrounding it all for a couple of months but then it will all dissapear, if you give out the info in bits along the way you keep that hype going, as for GTA SA we don't knopw everything that will be in the game, we know a lot about the game but I bet theres more to come. And Forza hasn't confirmed all it's cars, not even all the cars so far. All we know about Forza's cars are the ones that have been shown in demo's, theres more cars than whats been shown. We actually know a lot more about GT4 than we all think we know, we know over 250 of the cars that wil feature, many of the tracks, most if not all of the modes and we have plenty of info regarding the game itself, how it plays ect.