DiRT 3 Event of the Week (23): CLOSED
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Tried the previous round a few times throughout the day and I just couldn't do it - the physics are pissing me off again.
Still, they're nowhere near as rage inducing as whatever GRiD was trying to be.
Still, they're nowhere near as rage inducing as whatever GRiD was trying to be.
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From the looks of it, I won't be able to top my first car and that is the Fiesta with a time of 1:22.577.
Edit: Yup, the N12 is absolute bottom tier in this class: can't accelerate, can't turn, can't do anything quick. Not trying the Lancer either.
I got too accustomed to the Fiesta already so the Subbie Hatch is super slippery and loose. Seems it all comes down to the R4, though I've probably found the faster ways around turns with the Fiesta already
Edit: Well, I was wrong. the R4 is a easy choice for this since it slides so little. 1:22.154. going to take the Fiesta out one more time
edit: However, I matched the R4 pretty easily and it's power brought me through the majority of the turns faster, except the last. Despite this, 1:21.788 Fiesta.
Will post tips on Wednesday.
Edit: Yup, the N12 is absolute bottom tier in this class: can't accelerate, can't turn, can't do anything quick. Not trying the Lancer either.
I got too accustomed to the Fiesta already so the Subbie Hatch is super slippery and loose. Seems it all comes down to the R4, though I've probably found the faster ways around turns with the Fiesta already
Edit: Well, I was wrong. the R4 is a easy choice for this since it slides so little. 1:22.154. going to take the Fiesta out one more time
edit: However, I matched the R4 pretty easily and it's power brought me through the majority of the turns faster, except the last. Despite this, 1:21.788 Fiesta.
Will post tips on Wednesday.
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1:22.874 - Ford Fiesta
This is only my first decent time, but knowing how I usually do in the Fiesta, I'll beat it in the R4. I just think it's easier to control in most situations, and if the WRX SRT USA is as good as it was for me on the previous Head 2 Head event, then I might get a better time with that as well.
This is only my first decent time, but knowing how I usually do in the Fiesta, I'll beat it in the R4. I just think it's easier to control in most situations, and if the WRX SRT USA is as good as it was for me on the previous Head 2 Head event, then I might get a better time with that as well.
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I just can't get used to the Fiesta in this class, but having just tried the SRT USA, the Fiesta a damn sight faster than it. It's far too loose and lacks grip on this more technical and twisty stage, and I'm constantly over a second slower than my PB.
I'll try the R4 in a sec if I have the time to.
EDIT: 1:22.637 - R4
I'm quite disappointed with this to be honest. I was expecting it to eclipse the Fiesta, but after and hour I haven't been able to pull off a good lap.
It's weird because I seem to get somewhere around 1:23.3xx almost every lap, even when I set what feels like a good time. Yet it's no faster than the Fiesta even though it feels a lot quicker. It's nicer to use than the other cars I've tried, but it's just not as rapid as I thought it would be. I guess I should try the Evo X to see how that compares.
EDIT: The Evo X is heavy as expected, but it feels so slow here. It understeers a lot on certain corners, usually the faster turns, but it's alright on the tighter turns and can grip well. I can keep close to the inside walls without losing much speed, but I simply cannot string together a good lap with it. Half the time it feels like it can beat every other car in its class, but the other half it doesn't cut it when it matters most.
It's frustrating to know I can get more pace out of the Evo X, but I just can't find it.
EDIT: 1:22.416 - R4
I'm done with this. Might give the Fiesta another chance soon, but I can't improve my time with the R4 right now.
I'll try the R4 in a sec if I have the time to.
EDIT: 1:22.637 - R4
I'm quite disappointed with this to be honest. I was expecting it to eclipse the Fiesta, but after and hour I haven't been able to pull off a good lap.
It's weird because I seem to get somewhere around 1:23.3xx almost every lap, even when I set what feels like a good time. Yet it's no faster than the Fiesta even though it feels a lot quicker. It's nicer to use than the other cars I've tried, but it's just not as rapid as I thought it would be. I guess I should try the Evo X to see how that compares.
EDIT: The Evo X is heavy as expected, but it feels so slow here. It understeers a lot on certain corners, usually the faster turns, but it's alright on the tighter turns and can grip well. I can keep close to the inside walls without losing much speed, but I simply cannot string together a good lap with it. Half the time it feels like it can beat every other car in its class, but the other half it doesn't cut it when it matters most.
It's frustrating to know I can get more pace out of the Evo X, but I just can't find it.
EDIT: 1:22.416 - R4
I'm done with this. Might give the Fiesta another chance soon, but I can't improve my time with the R4 right now.
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1:24:052 - Subaru wrx sti srt usa
I gave all cars a shot and this is the best time I came up with so far.
Hopefully I'll get around to another session to improve to 1:23:xxx. That seems to be a realistic target for me with some more practise.
I've been checking out the online mode a bit recently which is proving to be quite fun. So far it has been pretty easy to find races even though the amount of actual racers in those events has been quite low for me up to this point.
DiRT really got me hooked at the moment and I hope to achieve some better results in the coming time trials here @gtp. One day I'm gonna get myself a top 3 entry here
I gave all cars a shot and this is the best time I came up with so far.
Hopefully I'll get around to another session to improve to 1:23:xxx. That seems to be a realistic target for me with some more practise.
I've been checking out the online mode a bit recently which is proving to be quite fun. So far it has been pretty easy to find races even though the amount of actual racers in those events has been quite low for me up to this point.
DiRT really got me hooked at the moment and I hope to achieve some better results in the coming time trials here @gtp. One day I'm gonna get myself a top 3 entry here
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Got a new PB
1:23:337 - Colin McRae R4
1:23:337 - Colin McRae R4
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That's roughly the same time I set with the R4 consistently, although I knocked 9/10ths off on my fastest run somehow. Most likely because I got a smooth run through the tight section on the second part of the stage. I'm surprised at how much time I can shave off on that section.
Nice job though bongwasser. Is the R4 your preferred car for this?
Nice job though bongwasser. Is the R4 your preferred car for this?
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The Fiesta has and always will feel looser than the R4. I'm surprised that anyone thinks it generates too much understeer.
I kind of agree with you there.
I think RACECAR was the only one who favoured the Open class Imprezas (not sure if he did for the N12 though). Again, it's completely useless on this stage, and the SRT USA isn't much cop either.
I kind of agree with you there.
I think RACECAR was the only one who favoured the Open class Imprezas (not sure if he did for the N12 though). Again, it's completely useless on this stage, and the SRT USA isn't much cop either.
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The Evo wasn't the worst, or anywhere near as bad as the N12 in my opinion. I just couldn't get a consistent lap with it, otherwise I probably would have set a faster time than the one I set with the R4. Well, I thought so at least.
I didn't get time to try the Fiesta again this week either, but the new event is up now so it doesn't matter. I tested this one out last Thursday and it's a challenge just to reach the end of the stage, regardless of what car I use.
I didn't get time to try the Fiesta again this week either, but the new event is up now so it doesn't matter. I tested this one out last Thursday and it's a challenge just to reach the end of the stage, regardless of what car I use.
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1:25.588 - Z4 M Coupe
I gave each one a go earlier and even my car of choice was a handful, even more so than some of the other cars. The SX4 is balls to drive no matter what stage I'm on, so that didn't seem any good, and I didn't get a good idea of how quick the Fiesta was because I haven't had a clean run yet, but the Z4 M is surprisingly easy to drive, and it's not slow either. I still question the Z4 Ms stats in DiRT3 (half the power of the others, second heaviest and RWD instead on 4WD), but the car is pretty handy.
I'll be testing all the cars on this stage again at some point, possibly tomorrow night. Plus I'll give my thoughts on the stage itself.
I gave each one a go earlier and even my car of choice was a handful, even more so than some of the other cars. The SX4 is balls to drive no matter what stage I'm on, so that didn't seem any good, and I didn't get a good idea of how quick the Fiesta was because I haven't had a clean run yet, but the Z4 M is surprisingly easy to drive, and it's not slow either. I still question the Z4 Ms stats in DiRT3 (half the power of the others, second heaviest and RWD instead on 4WD), but the car is pretty handy.
I'll be testing all the cars on this stage again at some point, possibly tomorrow night. Plus I'll give my thoughts on the stage itself.
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The Z4 IIRC was the easiest car to drive there. Actually underrated because of it's comparatively smaller HP. The SX4 can probably manhandle the other rides given enough practice. I remember back then I would never drive that thing, nor the Fiesta. Now I'm anxious to try.
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Drove some quick 3 laps just now.
1:24:901 - BMW Z4 M Coupe.
I love the trailblazers, although most of the TB stages are quite dull as it's just full throttle almost all the way through. I'd like some more technical driving, with cuts and hairpins and whatnot. Or some real up and downhill tracks. That would add a bit more spice to this vehicle class in my opinion.
I will give the other cars a shot in the next days. I tried the BMW first because it's the car I used for most of the Dirt Tour events in single player mode.
After watching my replay, I think I can still improve in the first sector with the BMW. The other sectors I managed to get through rather flawlessly, but I'm sure that one could drive faster than me in the first sector as well
Nevertheless...Regarding the already entered results I'm quite happy with my time so far since I am really really bad when it comes to the snowy tracks in Dirt3.
1:24:901 - BMW Z4 M Coupe.
I love the trailblazers, although most of the TB stages are quite dull as it's just full throttle almost all the way through. I'd like some more technical driving, with cuts and hairpins and whatnot. Or some real up and downhill tracks. That would add a bit more spice to this vehicle class in my opinion.
I will give the other cars a shot in the next days. I tried the BMW first because it's the car I used for most of the Dirt Tour events in single player mode.
After watching my replay, I think I can still improve in the first sector with the BMW. The other sectors I managed to get through rather flawlessly, but I'm sure that one could drive faster than me in the first sector as well
Nevertheless...Regarding the already entered results I'm quite happy with my time so far since I am really really bad when it comes to the snowy tracks in Dirt3.
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1:23.790 - Z4 M Coupe
There are a few corners that I have problems with regardless of what car I choose. The main one being the first major right-hander before the village. I've hated it since I first encountered it the day I bought this game, and I still can't get a good run through there. Turn to early and you hit a bump on the inside which needs to be avoided, but going too wide will mean having to slow down in order to make it into the village. I tend to brake on the slight right turn just before it, then, stay close to the inside and letting the car slide a little.
The left turn after the village is easy to cut, although when I keep the speed through there to the next right-hander I have to let off the throttle to slow down for it earlier, but it's an easy section to get through. I do brake a tad for the long left-hander after that, while nursing the throttle at the same time so that I can stay in 4 gear and keep the momentum through the entire corner, keeping near the inside at first and letting it power towards the outside just as the slightly deeper snow ends near the exit (I didn't notice any drop in speed when I ventured into the deeper snow, so I just ignore it).
Just before the right turn with the large banking on the inside (which is just before the railway crossing), there's a slight crest which I normally cut a little and let the car point left more that I would normally let it.
After the crest the follows the railway line there's a patch of snow on the inside of the small left turn that can be cut easily, which in turn makes it easier to get through the section leading the the tight left turn. Here I can afford to let the car slide again, but the long right corner after it can be deceptive as it tightens near the end. I always take in cautiously through there because I always ended up hitting the outside bank on earlier runs as I messes up my speed of entry.
And I have a tendency to hit the gate at the finish of this stage, well in the 2 fastest runs anyway. It didn't ruin my time on the quickest run though.
I'm about to give the other cars a go now. See if I encounter any other problems on this stage that I can work on overcoming.
EDIT: 1:22.773 - RMR PM580
The main problem I have with the RMR on this stage is understeer (on certain turns), but once I was aware of that and adjusted the way I tackled this stage, I can get a faster time with it than the Z4. You just have to be more careful through certain corners because it tends to stray towards the outside if you don't slow down enough. Plus I sort of agree with BKGlover and that the RMR can do better than any of the other cars after the village, but it takes a little more effort in order to be rewarded with a faster time. You can take the final long right-hander flat out without any worries as well (which is strange considering the understeer it suffers from on other corners).
EDIT: 1:22.771 - SX4
I'm surprised how well the SX4 drives on this stage, and I even beat my RMR time by 2/1000ths (in a car I'm supposed to hate).
I found that it behaved much more like the Z4 really, plus it was a good 7 MPH faster on the fast section at the railway crossing. You do need to be careful on some of the corners, but it's not much different from using the Z4 apart from being a little more difficult to control due to the higher speeds it can reach. I still can't understand how people get such fast times with it on other Trail Blazer stages though, like the ones in Michigan.
And I just set a faster time of 1:22.592 in the SX4, but I just wanted to say that you should avoid hitting the final sector sign that's located on the inside of the right corner after the railway crossing (the turn with the area of snow that you can cut). I didn't have a problem with that sign in any other car until I ended up having 2 large accidents in the SX4 because of it (launched the front end into the air the first time, and knocked the car to the right sending it off the road the second time).
EDIT: I wasn't expecting a decent run with this after BKGlover's comment, but I managed a time of 1:23.894 in the Fiesta.
It's pretty obvious why people hardly ever choose this. It handles like crap compared to any non-DLC other vehicle available, with a large amount of understeer when tackling most corners, which usually leads to lots of oversteer if you try and correct it. The Fiesta isn't as fast as the others on this stage even when driven with few errors, so naturally I wouldn't recommend it.
There are a few corners that I have problems with regardless of what car I choose. The main one being the first major right-hander before the village. I've hated it since I first encountered it the day I bought this game, and I still can't get a good run through there. Turn to early and you hit a bump on the inside which needs to be avoided, but going too wide will mean having to slow down in order to make it into the village. I tend to brake on the slight right turn just before it, then, stay close to the inside and letting the car slide a little.
The left turn after the village is easy to cut, although when I keep the speed through there to the next right-hander I have to let off the throttle to slow down for it earlier, but it's an easy section to get through. I do brake a tad for the long left-hander after that, while nursing the throttle at the same time so that I can stay in 4 gear and keep the momentum through the entire corner, keeping near the inside at first and letting it power towards the outside just as the slightly deeper snow ends near the exit (I didn't notice any drop in speed when I ventured into the deeper snow, so I just ignore it).
Just before the right turn with the large banking on the inside (which is just before the railway crossing), there's a slight crest which I normally cut a little and let the car point left more that I would normally let it.
After the crest the follows the railway line there's a patch of snow on the inside of the small left turn that can be cut easily, which in turn makes it easier to get through the section leading the the tight left turn. Here I can afford to let the car slide again, but the long right corner after it can be deceptive as it tightens near the end. I always take in cautiously through there because I always ended up hitting the outside bank on earlier runs as I messes up my speed of entry.
And I have a tendency to hit the gate at the finish of this stage, well in the 2 fastest runs anyway. It didn't ruin my time on the quickest run though.
I'm about to give the other cars a go now. See if I encounter any other problems on this stage that I can work on overcoming.
EDIT: 1:22.773 - RMR PM580
The main problem I have with the RMR on this stage is understeer (on certain turns), but once I was aware of that and adjusted the way I tackled this stage, I can get a faster time with it than the Z4. You just have to be more careful through certain corners because it tends to stray towards the outside if you don't slow down enough. Plus I sort of agree with BKGlover and that the RMR can do better than any of the other cars after the village, but it takes a little more effort in order to be rewarded with a faster time. You can take the final long right-hander flat out without any worries as well (which is strange considering the understeer it suffers from on other corners).
EDIT: 1:22.771 - SX4
I'm surprised how well the SX4 drives on this stage, and I even beat my RMR time by 2/1000ths (in a car I'm supposed to hate).
I found that it behaved much more like the Z4 really, plus it was a good 7 MPH faster on the fast section at the railway crossing. You do need to be careful on some of the corners, but it's not much different from using the Z4 apart from being a little more difficult to control due to the higher speeds it can reach. I still can't understand how people get such fast times with it on other Trail Blazer stages though, like the ones in Michigan.
And I just set a faster time of 1:22.592 in the SX4, but I just wanted to say that you should avoid hitting the final sector sign that's located on the inside of the right corner after the railway crossing (the turn with the area of snow that you can cut). I didn't have a problem with that sign in any other car until I ended up having 2 large accidents in the SX4 because of it (launched the front end into the air the first time, and knocked the car to the right sending it off the road the second time).
EDIT: I wasn't expecting a decent run with this after BKGlover's comment, but I managed a time of 1:23.894 in the Fiesta.
It's pretty obvious why people hardly ever choose this. It handles like crap compared to any non-DLC other vehicle available, with a large amount of understeer when tackling most corners, which usually leads to lots of oversteer if you try and correct it. The Fiesta isn't as fast as the others on this stage even when driven with few errors, so naturally I wouldn't recommend it.
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1:21.662 - SX4
The first major right-hander is still a problem at times, but only if I'm guilty of a major cock-up like missing my braking point. It's pretty easy to get through there fast with the SX4. Also, the sector marker I mentioned before is still a problem, but rather than sticking to the road and going around it, I braved the deeper snow on the inside and cut it without any trouble. I know you can cut that turn anyway, but not by that much.
Anyway, I can only really improve my time on the first right-hander after the village, just before the long left turn, but that's about it. I've done it before on previous runs, but I was a little too heavy on the brake on my fastest run when I could have just controlled the throttle instead.
The first major right-hander is still a problem at times, but only if I'm guilty of a major cock-up like missing my braking point. It's pretty easy to get through there fast with the SX4. Also, the sector marker I mentioned before is still a problem, but rather than sticking to the road and going around it, I braved the deeper snow on the inside and cut it without any trouble. I know you can cut that turn anyway, but not by that much.
Anyway, I can only really improve my time on the first right-hander after the village, just before the long left turn, but that's about it. I've done it before on previous runs, but I was a little too heavy on the brake on my fastest run when I could have just controlled the throttle instead.
