Imagine the chaos when the Spec III gets released!!!
And do you think they will have rented more servers to compensate?
My guess, no. They have known about thier crappy down speeds since spec II update..after this update, why should we expect anything more?
In all honesty, i'm starting to have doubts about how good GT5 is going to be when it finally gets released.
Gran Turismo Used to be about its fans. But now its about money...Hence the GT TV...$$$ They have forgotten about its hardcore fan base, and catered towards the average joe idiot that plays this game for 10 mins, then pitches it aside.
Again, Thank You PD
Gran Turismo Used to be about its fans. But now its about money...Hence the GT TV...$$$ They have forgotten about its hardcore fan base, and catered towards the average joe idiot that plays this game for 10 mins, then pitches it aside.
Again, Thank You PD
Again like a few have pointed out, PD is probably going to get little money off of GT-TV, why? Because they have to pay the people who's programs are going to be shown on GT-TV (unless of course tons of people use it, (I won't be one of them) besides not like they make you buy it), I completely disagree with you, I think the fact that we are getting updates at all is a sign that they aren't just interested in money. Man people around here sound like 12 year old kids than anything else sometimes, sometimes. Like after we get an update and people think it should have been a better update. Or because they still have server problems and you assume PD isn't even trying. Stuck up prigs. 👎
Luke
Luke,
I guess we will agree to disagree. Although I resent being called a 12 year old kid. I just believe if PD really did give a rats bum about its fans, it would take into account for past history.
I didn't say the update was crap. Although manys position here is that. I would have to disagree with you. The update made the cars easier to drive. If you remember before, prior to this update the average joe racer could not keep up. Even with the Rubber Band Effect, now with the new tire physics average joe is able to drive the cars with much more ease. So, instead of pleasing the hard core GT fans, PD has decided to go with the masses. Which is understandable, because the hard cores don't make up that much of the purchasing power. So in that aspect I understand why PD made the game easier.
Point here, This game is suppose to be a SIM game. How is it simulated when the cars feel like driving something from Need For Speed?
Back to the update speeds and failures. Yes, if you did your reading, it took me 98 times to download the update for my PAL game. 98 times.. What a load of crap. Prior to this, if you just bought this game, the update failed a few times before letting the user DL the full update. Also, if you remember Spec II, same problem with the severs..Slow DL speeds, Failed, whatnot...
If they did care about their customers, they would have learned from before and tried to beef up their servers. Becasue lets face it, they are crap.
I guess that covers it.
Chad
Speak for yourself. But considering the amount of money that games are now, then you've got the priced add on packs, it comes to a tidy sum. PD are a long way from going skint. These crappy GT-TV vids they are trying to promote are ages old, i've already got half of them on my PC HDD. They need to fix the online flaws first before charging people for old grainy SD vids. I've been a GT fan for a long time and it's about time they concentrated more on the actual game, instead of trying to rinse money out of the GT-TV add on.
I will like many others hold off full judgment until the full GT5 which I know is a long way off, but still.
P.S. I think they care about average joe, more than they care about GTPlanet Community Members needs. If we were posting our complains in the Playstation forums, maybe the update would not have been more toward the slower folks.
Chad
Just saying how poor my experience has been. If you don't know me well, I myself saythings that I should not here.
Having problems downloading latest update anyone else getting problems , Sugestions welcome on how to solve it .
Too true. Even an Elise can keep up with an Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo now. Thats how much of a joke it's become
98 failed downloads tends to have that effect on people .
Perhaps it's time for some of us to register on the PS forums to make sure Sony knows what we're saying here at GTP. It would give them a broader insight into what hardcore GT5 players would like to see in the game.
Gran Turismo Used to be about its fans. But now its about money...Hence the GT TV...$$$ They have forgotten about its hardcore fan base, and catered towards the average joe idiot that plays this game for 10 mins, then pitches it aside.
Again, Thank You PD
Sorry, but I fail to see your logic. I don't imagine the "average joe idiot" who has probably played Prologue and forgotten about it entirely is the target demographic for GT-TV.
If you don't want to pay for any of the content on GT-TV, fine. But if they deliver on the Fall update, and never charge for any additional Prologue game content, I don't think PD has lost sight of its fans to money.
Every businesses' goal is to make money, however, and Polyphony can't just give everything away for free. At least they're not charging for something unfair, like gas.
Chadswick have you managed to DL the update yet?
If you haven't Chadswick, then I will try to help you.
Sorry, but I fail to see your logic. I don't imagine the "average joe idiot" who has probably played Prologue and forgotten about it entirely is the target demographic for GT-TV.
If you don't want to pay for any of the content on GT-TV, fine. But if they deliver on the Fall update, and never charge for any additional Prologue game content, I don't think PD has lost sight of its fans to money.
Every businesses' goal is to make money, however, and Polyphony can't just give everything away for free. At least they're not charging for something unfair, like gas.
... or as a torrent. The more people downloading, the better the availability. Would have been perfect.
What in the world are you talking about? I can't imagine anywhere in my post did I suggest that GT TV was made for the masses. Look here man, why don't you reread what I said, if you read half of what I said in the first place, and then we can have this converstation.
Just another exapline of someone else that does not pay attention.
I see what you mean, now that you mention it. But don't get pissed off at me and accuse me of not paying attention because your damn sentences flow right into one another. I read your post just fine. The problem was that your line about GT-TV flows right into your line about PD forgetting the hardcore fan, making me think you meant that they forgot about the hardcore fan with GT-TV.