DLC #4 vs. GT6
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You should read the AUP, specifically this line:
Unless you want to give us some proof to your statement.
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Unless the PS4 comes for 2016 or later, you can expect a GT6 for the next gen. It just wouldn't make sense for PD to release another GT on PS3 considering their efforts with GT5, they aren't going to be able to convert all those standards to premiums or be able to make that many more tracks. It's a lot of work for a studio like PD considering they are a pretty small team when compared to other studios. So it would be better to have it next gen. I seriously don't think Sony would delay the PS4 that much that there is a window for PD to release GT6 on PS3. Is that good enough for you Simon? Just use your logic and recent statements by Sony and PD.
You still can't categorically say it's coming for the PS4, you're just guessing.
I can just as easily say it is coming for the PS3 because there is plenty of logic for that as well. Like them starting work on it in 2010, long before they are likely to have a representative PS4 SDK. Plus Kaz's statement that GT6 wouldn't take as long as GT5 and that it would be like adding apps to a current OS rather than building another new one.
Also your statement about them not being able to convert all those standards to premium for a PS3 is exactly the same for a PS4 game.
I can just as easily say it is coming for the PS3 because there is plenty of logic for that as well. Like them starting work on it in 2010, long before they are likely to have a representative PS4 SDK. Plus Kaz's statement that GT6 wouldn't take as long as GT5 and that it would be like adding apps to a current OS rather than building another new one.
Also your statement about them not being able to convert all those standards to premium for a PS3 is exactly the same for a PS4 game.
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Yes, that is true, Kaz indeed said it wouldn't take so long. But considering how PD handled GT5, (giving us a fairly incomplete game.) I don't think they would do the same stunt that they did where they just ported every car from GT PSP directly to GT5 to fill up the car roster. That would be very bad for them.
Look, if they decide to give us another GT for the PS3 and they decide to go the same road they did with GT5 with the standard cars, boring A-Spec etc. They minus well just keep releasing DLC. Look, supposedly Sony (and Microsoft) won't release a console next year because the current gen consoles are very profitable for them, but I've also read statements not only from Sony, but from other devs like Bethesda and Bioware (I think, don't quote me on Bioware) saying that the PS4 could very well be released by 2014. In all fairness I see where you are coming from, but by my understanding unless PD decides to release a GT6 trailer by next year you can expect a PS4 GT6.
Look, if they decide to give us another GT for the PS3 and they decide to go the same road they did with GT5 with the standard cars, boring A-Spec etc. They minus well just keep releasing DLC. Look, supposedly Sony (and Microsoft) won't release a console next year because the current gen consoles are very profitable for them, but I've also read statements not only from Sony, but from other devs like Bethesda and Bioware (I think, don't quote me on Bioware) saying that the PS4 could very well be released by 2014. In all fairness I see where you are coming from, but by my understanding unless PD decides to release a GT6 trailer by next year you can expect a PS4 GT6.
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- Bye_Ya
This, especially when they are still fresh off the market. Has anyone an idea of how much the PS4's are expected to cost?
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Bye Ya
No. But Sony works since 2010 on the PS4!!!!
Here is the link.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/attilavass?_mSplash=1
GT6 on PS4? It's more possible now.
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Hah! They've been working on it a damn-sight longer than that, you can guarantee it.
What you can't guarantee at this point is exactly when the next console will come to market. On top of that, you really, really (no, really) cannot guarantee when a Gran Turismo game will arrive for its first outing on a new console.
I just cannot fathom those who think it sensible to drop the current platform and preparatory work evident in GT5 because... ? What, a PS4 may appear in two years' time?
Is this "GT6 must be on PS4" argument some kind of megalomaniacal attempt to invoke a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy? That if you say it often enough, it might just come true? What's wrong with enjoying another Gran Turismo game in between waiting for the next console?
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Well. I will answer your question, but first i want to say that i don't really care on which console it'll be.
And i never said it must be on ps4. I said it could have advantage if they can use a more powerful hardware. And i talked about the competition.
Now i don't care anymore
1. My english is to bad to answer this
2. Nope
3. Nothing is wrong with it. Did i every said its wrong to enjoy GT6 on PS3? No.
FACT is we don't know what Sony has in mind. And we don't know on which console GT6 will be released.
there is absolutly no reason to be angry. Different people different opinions.
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Nothing is wrong with that but it would only seem logical if they can make a new game for the PS3 which justifies it. When considering all the time they have spent on GT5 both pre and post release, it would just seem like a waste to just let it die for the sake of a replacement. Furthermore, they know that they can milk GT5 as long as they maintain interest levels with a steady flow of DLC. These money can be spent to go the extra mile with the next title.
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Nobody ever said it was wrong to have a GT6 on PS3. I just think that considering their track record lately and the feedback of the people, if PD releases a PS3 GT6 it better be what GT5 was intended for it to truly be. Where is the supposed Livery Editor? And why aren't all cars Premium. I love GT5, don't get me wrong, but it's easily the weakest in the series.
If PD takes everything they did right with GT5 and fix or simply change the stuff that isn't working with this game, and well, I would buy it in a heartbeat. But I don't know... I just feels that this game is incomplete, and if I use as reference PD's release time between sequels it might as well be either one of the last games before the PS4 gets released or a launch PS4 title.
I'll admit, it was wrong from my part to say GT6 is a PS4 release, but for me makes more sense if they decide to do that, we still have no official statements from PD or Sony. So we are all getting way over our heads to be honest, even myself, but that's how I feel about this subject.
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If you didn't say these things, then the comment wasn't aimed at you. I buried a general address midway through a reply post, my mistake. No anger really, just bewilderment.
Anyway...
Kaz has stated that major feature updates will have to wait for the next game, so "milking" GT5 isn't going to cut it; not for PD, and certainly not for us.
I don't see how making GT6 for the PS4 will save money, though. I say strike whilst the iron is still hot and make amends for the disappointment fostered by GT5 as soon as possible. Then they can lock themselves in PD Towers again until the PS4 shows its face.
Interestingly, for me, GT3 was a massive letdown after GT2; it, too, felt incomplete. GT4 "fixed" that feeling for me. It's likely the platform maturity and extra experience PD now has will allow similar progress for GT6 on PS3.
Besides, Kaz said GT6 would be sooner than we might "expect" (perhaps given their release time between the sequels). That was at a time when Sony was still probably unsure when to deploy the next console, which all but implies Kaz's plans at that point in time were to put GT6 on PS3.
Anyway...
Kaz has stated that major feature updates will have to wait for the next game, so "milking" GT5 isn't going to cut it; not for PD, and certainly not for us.
I don't see how making GT6 for the PS4 will save money, though. I say strike whilst the iron is still hot and make amends for the disappointment fostered by GT5 as soon as possible. Then they can lock themselves in PD Towers again until the PS4 shows its face.
Interestingly, for me, GT3 was a massive letdown after GT2; it, too, felt incomplete. GT4 "fixed" that feeling for me. It's likely the platform maturity and extra experience PD now has will allow similar progress for GT6 on PS3.
Besides, Kaz said GT6 would be sooner than we might "expect" (perhaps given their release time between the sequels). That was at a time when Sony was still probably unsure when to deploy the next console, which all but implies Kaz's plans at that point in time were to put GT6 on PS3.
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Well then. Here's to GT6 on PS3.
I still do hope that they fix the stuff that just isn't working in GT5 with GT6.
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Nobody ever said it was wrong to have a GT6 on PS3. I just think that considering their track record lately and the feedback of the people, if PD releases a PS3 GT6 it better be what GT5 was intended for it to truly be. Where is the supposed Livery Editor? And why aren't all cars Premium. I love GT5, don't get me wrong, but it's easily the weakest in the series.
If PD takes everything they did right with GT5 and fix or simply change the stuff that isn't working with this game, and well, I would buy it in a heartbeat. But I don't know... I just feels that this game is incomplete, and if I use as reference PD's release time between sequels it might as well be either one of the last games before the PS4 gets released or a launch PS4 title.
I'll admit, it was wrong from my part to say GT6 is a PS4 release, but for me makes more sense if they decide to do that, we still have no official statements from PD or Sony. So we are all getting way over our heads to be honest, even myself, but that's how I feel about this subject.
Don't you think on the fact that GT5 is seemingly "incomplete" gives more all the reason that GT6 will be the game that will "complete" it AND much more? Unless you think that certain features like livery editor is only possible on the PS4, I'm not sure how I understand why you think that if GT6 is for the PS3, that it will be just as incomplete as GT5. If anything, they can only improve it. Plus they did say they decided to save some features for GT6.
If you're gonna go by previous records, first GT title for a new console is always the one with the fewest content and features... no? Unless PD has been working on GT6 since 2010, you can't expect GT6 as a PS4 launch title to be everything you want, with many features and content. So far it's been true that the second GT title for every new console is always the one with more features and content. Only gripe is the controversial physics change between GT3 and GT4. Nontheless, GT2 and GT4 is the more complete game compared to its predecessor.
As an opinion, GT5 may be the weakest in the series for you, but it's fact that it's also the most advance to develop. Saying that, I don't think it's fair to judge PD on the basis of how they handled GT5 for this generation and saying that a GT6 for the PS4 is the best solution for them, in terms of not disappointing us. Perhaps I have too much faith in them, but I believe GT6 will only be an improvement of what we (and Kaz) want GT5 to be. I just don't think that we can have a content blow it like we did with GT2 and GT3 if GT6 were for the PS4 early on, unless of course they've been working on it for awhile.
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It's not what you agree on, but myself trying to understand you, in hopes that I can have some explanation on why you think GT6 will be as underwheling as GT5 if it were to be for the PS3.... Also to anyone who might feel the same way.
Believe me, I read every post on this page, and previous.
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Oh, my bad then, it's not that I think that GT6 will be underwhelming. It's that PD will have to adapt to the new tech the PS4 will offer if they decide to release GT6 on PS3. I rather have them invest their time in a more complete experience even if we have to wait 'till the PS4.
I'm not sure if I am explaining myself very well, I think I am not.
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I think we may have confused ourselves because you quoted my unedited post. What I meant was the PS3 not PS4. You mentioned a couple of times that GT6 is best for the PS4 and that it would be as underwhelming as GT5 if it were for the PS3, in terms of satisfaction and "completeness." Basically, judging what GT6 will be like on the PS3 by GT5's development.
All is good though. What you say makes sense, but now it just seems out of place, but it's because of me. My apologies.
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K, just to be more clear (I know, unneccesary).. here are the quotes that I was trying to understand from you:
My understanding now is that you expect the next Gran Turismo to be all premiums and that it and other features like livery editor can only really be done on the PS4. What I'm trying to say is that a GT6 with livery editor, more features, more premium cars is certainly possible on the PS3. The only reason we would need a PS4 is for a dramatic shift in graphics, A.I. count, and physics.
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Oh no worries then. 
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I don't understand why people would want GT6 on the PS4. The only reason I think that is since the game would be released early in the PS4's lifespan, and it would feel like a PS3 game, only with extra content added that could easily fit onto a PS3 game.
GT6 should be on the PS3, GT7 (if there is one) should be released a few years into the PS4's lifespan.
Now here is one thing that many aren't putting into consideration. PD will end up taking an awful lot of time since GT6 will have tons of new content and improved graphics, almost entirely made from scratch, so wouldn't it be better for PD to make GT6 and milk money with GT5 DLC and GT6 before the PS4 comes out?
GT6 should be on the PS3, GT7 (if there is one) should be released a few years into the PS4's lifespan.
Now here is one thing that many aren't putting into consideration. PD will end up taking an awful lot of time since GT6 will have tons of new content and improved graphics, almost entirely made from scratch, so wouldn't it be better for PD to make GT6 and milk money with GT5 DLC and GT6 before the PS4 comes out?
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Eh... I don't see it that way but idk I rather have them make it a PS4 launch title so when GT7 comes around they are able to create a better games since they will be more familiar with the new tech.
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Bye Ya
I wish I could have a decent PC to run these sims. </3
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There are some personal reasons as to why I don't have one darling.
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