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If for whatever reason GT6 is a PS4 title, it will be well after the PS4 has launched. It just doesn't make any sense in my mind to make GT6 a launch title. That just feels like it would be a complete disaster.
DLC #4 vs. GT6
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SimonK
That does make sense. Sony can't afford to Release a 50% finished Game. No Publisher can sell a Alpha for 60$. And GT5 was something like an Alpha in 2008.
A Publisher decide on which Console a Game will be released. And they can decide everything.
I dont know what a work you do, but i think 97% of all workers in the World can't decide what the Boss has to do. Or which product will be produced...
But you think PD can do that?
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- GTP_Raitzi
Yes, for the competition.
If the new system can use old assets easily, it might be possible. I think problems PD faced last time are more related to inadequate workforce to create enough content and not how to put in the game. Of course prioritization and work way efficiency(car base modelling automation etc.) are also key points.
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I'm hoping for a GT6 with so much content a DLC is not necessary, to me it doesn't make sense to use all my money on what, 20 cars and 3 tracks when I, in the theory, can use that very money to buy GT6 when it's out.
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SimonK
They have to put pressure on PD. And they have to wait. But that doesn't matter. The Boss/Publisher decide everything. They decide...
- if a GT6 will be developed
- IF the Name stay's the same
- How much Cars are they can license and integrate
- How many tracks
- On which Plattform ist will be developed
- How much Money PD can invest
And so on. Publisher decide everything.
Look. Just go to your Boss and say you want to produce a Car he has to give you Money and shut the ***** up. And of course you want 100$ per Hour and 6 months Holiday. That will Not Happen, but you say ist is possible.. 98% workers but they can't say what the Boss has to do, Some can Share their opinion with the boss, but the Boss decided After all.
In 2008 the Game wasn't finished. Sony made the decicion to Not Release it, because you shouldn't Release a unfinished Game. But that isn't an Argument to denie that a Boss decides everything.
Beside i Never Said that Sony can say we want a the Game in 1 month Release or something like that. They have to make a realistic target. Games needs Time in Development. I only Said Sony decide on which Console and which Game PD has to develop. And everything Else. But a Boss is a Human and can't Influence the Time.
Development costs time.
Yes SONY could say we want a 2008 release SimonK, but the product was still in Development and a early Release would hurt GT, the quality of the game, the sells, Sony,. So they decided to give them more Time. Even 2010 was a Bit early. Yamauchi Wanted to more years, but Sony denied that.
thelvynau
Sony dictate a Release target and other Things. ND had Problems to Release Uncharted 2 @ the Date Sony Wanted. The had Problems to Run Uncharted on PS3 before Release .
Developer work under pressure and they work sometimes alot more than 8 hours.
Where the pressure comes from? Publisher.
Just read this for example
www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-...destructive-publisher-developer-relationships
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I still believe Sony will want gt6 as a ps4 launch title simply because they will want to hit the ground running with the new system, they have to avoid the same situation when the ps3 hit the market with no decent games. They will want that wow factor on day one because the battle with the next Xbox is going to be massive, any advantage they can get they will use to the max! A game like gt6 is a system seller
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Yes!
I also can't see GT6 as a launch title. I'd be much happier with bounties of DLC goodness but as many have pointed out, some of the flaws require more than just DLC to fix so I'm hoping we'll get GT6 on PS3.
Wasn't it said that immediately after GT5 was released, PD was already working on GT6. Sounds kind of weird to have them work so early already on a game which will launch on a console that hasn't even been announced yet.
I think that after GT Academy we'll get some DLC, it seems that is polyphony's main focus is the academy right now. Even though you get prizes for trophies for the academy they must think that those prizes are better than none at all. Just my opinion.
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There's a fine line between dictating what developors can produce, and when Sony wants the game out. Anybody remember GTPSP? I think that's a good example of a game that Sony actually "forced" PD to get it done by PSP Go's releases. Just look how that game turned out. If they didn't had initial start on it (which they did around GT4's time), the game would probably be even worst than it is now. Seriously, the game may be decent to some of you, but if you look at it, it's basically a bunch of GT4 port with the tracks and cars, and a bunch of license tests.
Point is, if Sony wants GT6 for the PS4 launch, it's gonna be a pretty weak one, like that of GTPSP in terms of rushed effort, or GT5P in terms of content (ala GT6P), especially if they haven't yet started working on it with the PS4's dev kits as of now. I'm pretty sure, if PD has been working with the PS4 dev kits right now, we would get some kind of sign. It's not exactly a decision that you can just go quiet about and decide at the last moment.
Point is, if Sony wants GT6 for the PS4 launch, it's gonna be a pretty weak one, like that of GTPSP in terms of rushed effort, or GT5P in terms of content (ala GT6P), especially if they haven't yet started working on it with the PS4's dev kits as of now. I'm pretty sure, if PD has been working with the PS4 dev kits right now, we would get some kind of sign. It's not exactly a decision that you can just go quiet about and decide at the last moment.
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I think that PD most probably is dedicating everything to GT6 now, and that there won't be any more DLC for GT5, at least nothing major anyway.
I personally hope that GT6 is out at the end of this year for the PS3. So far PD has released two Gran Turismo titles for every Playstation console, I think it likely that this trend will continue and that GT6 will be, more or less, everything that GT5 probably should of been, with nothing but premium level cars and most of the 'missing' tracks restored to the game.
I personally hope that GT6 is out at the end of this year for the PS3. So far PD has released two Gran Turismo titles for every Playstation console, I think it likely that this trend will continue and that GT6 will be, more or less, everything that GT5 probably should of been, with nothing but premium level cars and most of the 'missing' tracks restored to the game.
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GT PSP was first revealed when the PSP was first announced and it only came out on PSP's 4th version of the handheld.
I have GT PSP, one of my main reasons why I bought a PSP-1000 and it's OK at best. I'll be honest, bit disappointed in it and I think if PD had just included a career of some sort it'd be 10x better.
I just don't want to see Prologue nonsense either for PS3 or PS4 so I hope PD are solely working on GT6. And I also hope we don't see any more of this standard vs premium split of content.
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SimonK
They decide on which Console the Game will be developed and they dictate a Release Target.
The publisher dont release a game If they work to Slow and the product isn't finished.
They could do it, but a Bad or unfinished product hurts the Franchise, the Company,...
You can't sell a unfinished Car or product. Why you dont understand that? "Yes we just added the tire, but the Engine is still in Development... Well Release it anyway.." That will Not Happen, but a Boss/Publisher could do it.
But there are disadvantage... The Customer would be angry and the product wouldn't sell.
You just dont know the Real World and how to work do you? The Boss decide Things and the worker has to do what he wants. Sad truth.
Well how decide which product will be produced? The Boss or the worker?
How say to the worker work faster?
If Sony wants GT6 on PS4 they'll get it.
If Sony wants more DLC they'll get it.
If Sony wants GT6 on PS3 they'll get it
If Sony wants to sell PD they do it
If Sony wants no GT anymore... They just do it.
And so on.
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mjm23race
That makes no Sense ^^
There are Things a Human can't Influence or do, but Sony owns PD and they say what they have to do. But they can't say "
make a game with 100000000000 Cars in 1 Minute."
That is Not possible. They can decide everything if it is realistic. For example "
Release GT6 on XY Console. You have 3 years development Time and XX.XXY.XYX $. We want XY Cars and a simulation with different assists for Gamer. Dont make it a Real SIM your Target is the mass market."
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thelvynau
??? I cant understand why i have to explain it a 1000x Times. Is it that difficult?
You could ask " Why the Car manufacture dont Release a Car without a Engine?"
The Game wasn't finished in 2008. Sony decided to give them more Time, because they missed the target.
The reason for this decicion is obviosly the disadvantage. You can't Release a 40% done Game which is still far away from a finished.
The Sony product are quality products and a GT Release in 2008 would hurt Sony,... because it wouldn't be finished and good.
The Consumer would be dissapointed and angry. The sells would be worse too.
In 2010 the Game was playable and good. Yamauchi Wanted 2 more years, but Sony denied that.
Is it to difficult to believe that a Boss/ Publisher make the decicions? really?
topolino
Maybe. I dont think so, but if he does he can't ignore the "command" from Sony.
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The only Thing which is bigger than the Boss is the Customer. He/She has more "power"
That's the reason why a Company will not Release a unfinished product.
There are two Important Things for a Boss and the company: Money and Image.
You hurt your Image and earn less Money if you Release a unfinished product.
Of course they have other Things that matter too....
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ch3ng is dead wrong about everything he has been talking about, but I do have to give credit where it's due, he is good at sticking to his guns.
Do you really not see that you're constantly contradicting yourself? In one breath you say that Sony gets what they want, in another you say that if the product isn't ready they won't get what they want when they want it.
If Sony wants GT6 on PS4 they'll get it. Unless PD aren't ready, then they won't.
If Sony wants more DLC they'll get it. Unless PD aren't ready, then they won't.
If Sony wants GT6 on PS3 they'll get it. Unless PD aren't ready, then they won't.
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