DLC #4 vs. GT6

[NascarCraig38]

If they do make a dlc #4 I am hoping on the rarest of chances that we see a Ford ute or an Holden ute. The 382 horse power version from ford would be nice even for standard.

 

[velox86]

i want have more dlc and the gt6, but i hope it comes with the ps4 next year

but i also want/need a dlc (also for gt6) to adjust the driver seat ... in all cars iam sitting to close to the steering wheel!!

 

[ch3ng]

@ the People who criticize criticism

Only criticism Makes a Game better and this are the True passionate fans of a Franchise. Ok Most of them.

If you dont criticize the Publisher and Developer will not work on the Bad parts.

For example the Sound hasn't improved - much - since GT1. Why you ASK? Because some Fans buy the Game anyway and See in this example PD as gods or something like that.

You spend Money and i think we - the costumer - have the right to criticize a Game/Developer/Publisher.

In short PD has the best skills available, but t10 beats them big time in production, prioritization,and managing resources.
E.g car sounds in Forza are not amazing, GT just sucks in this department. Games like driv3r San Francisco have much better sounds even as they are not even trying to be realistic.

PD and Turn10 are both Great Developer Teams. I can't say which has better or worse skills....
Forza has realistic Sound

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All Games Out there have much to improve and they improve Things if the Community Wants more.
CoD and some GT Fans didnt complain and they Get less improvments.

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Developer Needs New Goals or a New Target and they can gain Motivation, Targets from criticism. We can Push the Developer and Franchise to New highs.

 

[axl54]

Gt6.

PS4 is heavily rumoured to be released q4 2013. So I'd like PD to dedicate all there energies towards gt6 - so maybe they could release gt6/prologue early in the new consoles life-cycle this time

I want to be blown away by a Gt game again, like I haven't been since 4. So I'd be happy if they brushed this stale disappointment under the carpet now, and y'know moved on to something new and potenially amazing.

 

[cuco33]

Sorry but please... no prologues!!!

Either make DLC for GT5 (or let us know if there won't be any more) or work solely on GT6. We don't need any prologue nonsense of any means. It only hogs up resources and dev time and further delays the full game release. PD should stick to GT6 if they are working on a new title, and I hope GT6 doesn't see anything like this standard vs premium fiasco.

 

[another_jakhole]

@ the People who criticize criticism

Only criticism Makes a Game better and this are the True passionate fans of a Franchise. Ok Most of them.

If you dont criticize the Publisher and Developer will not work on the Bad parts.

I dont know why some People complain about criticism.

GT5 isn't Perfect and only criticism makes a Game better.

I made a Statment

We criticize the people who don't know how to post without sounding or being nasty.

Whether it's to PD, Kaz, OTHER MEMBERS, it doesn't matter how good your points are. I'm not saying everything those people say is wrong. The way they say it is.

If you dont criticize the Publisher and Developer will not work on the Bad parts.

That's perfectly said.
Some people might have to add some jabs in there to make themselves feel better.


Saying, "Six years and this all they came up with", is completely pointless and doesn't add anything besides the fact that someone was dissatisfied with the game.

Forza has realistic Sound

This I don't understand (even though you weren't meaning it in a dirty way). So if I were to rebut that in any way, I guess that would mean I'm criticizing criticism? I don't think so.

E.g car sounds in Forza are not amazing, GT just sucks in this department. Games like driv3r San Francisco have much better sounds even as they are not even trying to be realistic.

Everything Raitziger said was fine, but I disagree completely. PD doesn't "suck" in the sound department. I've stated that even though FM has "better" sounds, I prefer GT's because they simply sound more natural. It's not to say all car sounds in GT are better.

And again, it's not like I can't admit FM is the better game. I completely prefer all that GT5 offers over everything that the FM series has provided. If there was only a GT5P, my obvious choice would be to choose to buy FM4. BUT THEN, that would mean paying for an even more expensive steering wheel than the DFGT.

I don't understand why people think we're biased when it's clear that some people are only here to nitpick GT5's shortcomings, and then I have to come in and quote/source information that either explains or justifies something being the way it is.



I can't justify "no leaderboards". I never have. But, I can explain it through a quote... sort of. Keep in mind, this is one of the loosest explanations that I've quoted for something.


One day after GT5 released, this interview was posted.

Eurogamer: On a specific note, will you be adding online matchmaking soon?

Kazunori Yamauchi: In this release we focused on the features that allow close friends to race together. Online updates are planned of course for leaderboard and matchmaking - [they're] all planned in the process of evolution.

Did people know that the idea of Standards having cockpit view was let go because of the way it looked? Meaning Kaz didn't like how it looked, so he scrapped it. People wanted it, Spec 2 brought it, and a good number of people thought it was "half-assed".

Many, many, MANY times I have to repeat the same things through quotes mostly.

For example the Sound hasn't improved - much - since GT1. Why you ASK? Because some Fans buy the Game anyway and See in this example PD as gods or something like that.

New:
The sound improved with Spec 2. Then with wind noise, although to some people it negatively affected them. Your belief of that seems crazy to me. I hope for obvious reasons.



GT5 Still Not Perfect (duhhh)
http://www.gamerzines.com/playstation/news-ps3/yamauchi-gt5-still-not-perfect.html

 

[TokoTurismo]

^ That's actually interesting to be honest. No developer would come up and say their game isn't perfect if it's not finished like how Mr. Yamauchi put it. I understand him though.

And I'm okay when others say their criticisms, but when it involve attacking Kaz or PD, or even the game for that matter, that's when thing gets low. In the feedback section, I found crap saying "STOP SUCKING SO HARD". that was directed at PD on purpose. And in the upgread standard cars into premium cars, which is the most voted in the list. Some idiot came and wrote up a bunch of crap in that section. HTH is that helping PD to improve GT5 is beyond me.

 

[cuco33]

I don't know about you guys but some people just need to stop blindly defending certain devs, whether you're a big Forza fan defending T10 or a big GT fan defending PD... The excuses can be a bit extreme.
Was I disappointed in GT5? Sure was!! I did not buy, and refused to this day to support their prologue nonsense but I have purchased and played every full fledged GT release usually on day 1, from GT1 through 5 and including GT PSP. One of the big reasons I got a PS1, a PS2, a PS3 and a PSP was mostly for the GT game that was released or bound to release on that platform.

This isn't a hate thread nor a gameX vs gameY thread. This is a DLC#4 vs GT6 thread and I'm fine if PD releases GT6 next gen (or even this) so long as we don't get this disparity in content and features throughout or if they were to release PROPER DLC for G54, and I say this in lines with the car packs and track DLC stuff, NOT the racemods of cars already in the game or the nonsense of one time paint chips... I still think that Spa DLC track is the best DLC we've received from PD.

 

[IRONBULL]

Ewww we have a troll in the forums. His name starts with an "I" and ends with an "L" His name's letters are all in capitals mind you.

Better the troll than the PD bootlicker. 👍

So you're expecting PD to deliver GT6 in under two years, yet you want everything to be new. Make up your mind. It's either, GT6 in several years, not two, and possibly a much improved game, or GT6 in two years, and a rushed game, just like GT5 was, and you obviously don't like GT5.

Tell PD to make up their minds. And your right I'm not you. I don't have enuff time to play that many car games w/o getting paid to do it.

You all stop trolling your rumors and assumptions w/o acknowledging the underwhelming expectations of GT5, and I'll stop trolling GTP with negative post about PD, deal?

 

[another_jakhole]

The guy with Illuminatus_13 for a PSN ID. ^^^

My username is meant for people like that.

^ That's actually interesting to be honest. No developer would come up and say their game isn't perfect if it's not finished like how Mr. Yamauchi put it. I understand him though.

And I'm okay when others say their criticisms, but when it involve attacking Kaz or PD, or even the game for that matter, that's when thing gets low. In the feedback section, I found crap saying "STOP SUCKING SO HARD". that was directed at PD on purpose. And in the upgread standard cars into premium cars, which is the most voted in the list. Some idiot came and wrote up a bunch of crap in that section. HTH is that helping PD to improve GT5 is beyond me.

That's the bottom line. People need to learn how to communicate without being like that.

Also, people are nitpicky as hell about GT5. Why can't I be that way about people's posts to balance it out? I wouldn't need to if people didn't keep bringing up the same things. That's the main reason why I haven't left. I can't help but feel that my conscience is dirty knowing that some people always bring up things like "too many duplicates". Then, what about GT4's duplicates?

I don't know about you guys but some people just need to stop blindly defending certain devs, whether you're a big Forza fan defending T10 or a big GT fan defending PD... The excuses can be a bit extreme.
Was I disappointed in GT5? Sure was!! I did not buy, and refused to this day to support their prologue nonsense but I have purchased and played every full fledged GT release usually on day 1, from GT1 through 5 and including GT PSP. One of the big reasons I got a PS1, a PS2, a PS3 and a PSP was mostly for the GT game that was released or bound to release on that platform.

This isn't a hate thread nor a gameX vs gameY thread. This is a DLC#4 vs GT6 thread and I'm fine if PD releases GT6 next gen (or even this) so long as we don't get this disparity in content and features throughout or if they were to release PROPER DLC for G54, and I say this in lines with the car packs and track DLC stuff, NOT the racemods of cars already in the game or the nonsense of one time paint chips... I still think that Spa DLC track is the best DLC we've received from PD.

It was a kind of beta-test, Kaz has said. I never played Prologue.
All threads contain some hate no matter what the topic is.

 

[cuco33]

I don't care what it was... Prologue 'games' have been nothing more than quick cash grabs at charging for beta stages of GT games. They've added to the delays and removed resources that should have spent more time on the full fledged games. This is why I have never liked them and hated that Prologues finally came to the states where I reside, and why I seriously do NOT want a GT6P, in any region.

Toss me some more GT5 DLC or better yet give me GT6, patch it up and whatnot but do NOT do a GT6P.

 

[another_jakhole]

I don't care what it was... Prologue 'games' have been nothing more than quick cash grabs at charging for beta stages of GT games. They've added to the delays and removed resources that should have spent more time on the full fledged games. This is why I have never liked them and hated that Prologues finally came to the states where I reside, and why I seriously do NOT want a GT6P, in any region.

Toss me some more GT5 DLC or better yet give me GT6, patch it up and whatnot but do NOT do a GT6P.

I agree and pretty sure Kaz said there wouldn't need to be.

 

[Terronium-12]

Tell PD to make up their minds. And your right I'm not you. I don't have enuff time to play that many car games w/o getting paid to do it.

You all stop trolling your rumors and assumptions w/o acknowledging the underwhelming expectations of GT5, and I'll stop trolling GTP with negative post about PD, deal?

No. What you're going to do is stop double-posting, stop with the thinly-veiled snarky insults, and you'll stop trolling regardless of what anyone else does.

It's not a negotiation nor is it open to interpretation; I'm telling you to stop, if you can't discuss the matter at hand like a civilized individual then don't discuss it at all.

 

[TokoTurismo]

@IRONBULL
Regression Ironbull. Regression. And you just admitted that you were a troll, tisk tisk tisk....

I agree and pretty sure Kaz said there wouldn't need to be.

Thank goodness to hear that.

 

[Donald Rumsfeld]

I would very much prefer to see more DLC and updates/upgrades to GT5. While I'm quite happy with the fact that a great deal of work has already been put in to improving GT5, the game still disappoints me in ways its competitors don't -- generally poor sound effects, the premium/standard problem, and weak/nonexistent damage model in A Spec are some of the most irritating things. To be honest, my decision to buy GT6 will be heavily influenced by whether or not PD continue their efforts to improve and expand upon a GT5 game that still feels incomplete. I understand that, realistically, we won't see any major change to sounds or standard models, but I really want to see wider implementation of full mechanical damage, and for DLC, a few new premium car models and a real life circuit or two.

Additionally, I am one of those who feels that GT6 would be best served by an improved console. If GT5 is indeed pushing the limits of the PS3's capabilities, then it is unlikely that a new Gran Turismo game will be able to represent any meaningful upgrade (apart, perhaps, from that "more complete feel" many of us seek) to GT5 unless it is designed and released for the next generation Playstation.

 

[thelvynau]

@ the People who criticize criticism

Only criticism Makes a Game better and this are the True passionate fans of a Franchise. Ok Most of them.

If you dont criticize the Publisher and Developer will not work on the Bad parts.

For example the Sound hasn't improved - much - since GT1. Why you ASK? Because some Fans buy the Game anyway and See in this example PD as gods or something like that.

You spend Money and i think we - the costumer - have the right to criticize a Game/Developer/Publisher.

PD and Turn10 are both Great Developer Teams. I can't say which has better or worse skills....
Forza has realistic Sound

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All Games Out there have much to improve and they improve Things if the Community Wants more.
CoD and some GT Fans didnt complain and they Get less timprovments.

--
Developer Needs New Goals or a New Target and they can gain Motivation, Targets from criticism. We can Push the Developer and Franchise to New highs.

I only critisize people complaining if the are not doing it constryctively.

 

[diegorborges]

We can have both. GT6 and GT5DLC.

And we'll have both. I just think they're finishing things up with GT Academy 2012 then it'll get back to normal.

Kaz said they are still thinking about when they'll be going to stop supporting GT5, and I think, the same way they did when they shut down the GT5P servers, we'll know about it.

So... IMHO... it's

GT Academy + GT5 update to be compatible with the GT Academy "goodies"

then

DLC 4 and more in the future until

GT6 on PS3

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Honestly it means alot to you. So much so you'd rather get ready to spend money on a game that doesn't even exist versus one that does.

I will continue to attack PD along with others because the game that took six years to copy and paste onto 1080p is still appearing to be a compilation of old GT games full of JDM standard cars and premium JDM electric hybrid race cars, while we get updates on GT competitions and speculation of a GT6 game.

Yeah your right, I paid 60bux for this crap and you can believe PD won't get a another wet nickel outta me if they kill future DLC for GT5. Everyone should know GT6 will be another copy and paste version of GT5 full of premium cars and tracks that were either already in older GT games or tracks that should have been in GT5 during the six whole years it took um to copy and paste it together in the first place.

I'm sorry but unless GT6 drops in less than a year, we'd be foolish to continue on with this current version of GT while waiting to spend another 60+bux on a game that was never "new" in the first place.

You seem like such a reliable source to begin with

 

[1241Penguin]

You all stop trolling your rumors and assumptions w/o acknowledging the underwhelming expectations of GT5, and I'll stop trolling GTP with negative post about PD, deal?

No. I don't care if people have criticism for GT5 and PD. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but don't go around ranting about, because there's just no point.

 

[Spagetti69]

I only critisize people complaining if the are not doing it constryctively.

When you criticise people complaining, do you criticise there complaints in a constructive manner?

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Better the troll than the PD bootlicker. 👍



You all stop trolling your rumors and assumptions w/o acknowledging the underwhelming expectations of GT5, and I'll stop trolling GTP with negative post about PD, deal?

I'd like to slowly tare this statement apart, first by saying:
If we didn't ask for things and/or create high expectations for Gran Turismo 5, then why would Polyphony Digital feel so inclined to make it better and add DLC? Criticism is what makes the world go around, and it makes the world go around in much better quality.. Without people asking for more, you would never get a better product. You could easily connect that theory to the real world.. lets say; Automotive industry. For instance, Lamborghini. Customers complained about how useless the Air Conditioning systems of their vehicals were.. The new Aventador LP700-4 has great air conditioning.. Coincidence? Less then likely.. Please think more before typing some trash up..

Also, I thought I would add this in.. Saying you will stop trolling GTPlanet like it is your right to be able to in the first place.. is a misconception. You won't troll GTP. As a moderator has already mentioned.

Have a nice day sir.

 

[thelvynau]

When you criticise people complaining, do you criticise there complaints in a constructive manner?

Excuse my spelling it was early here I do suggest maybe there is a better way to put across their view without a antagonising attitude.

Edit:

I guess its not the fact they are complaining thats a problem more the way they are doing it.

 

[karelpipa]

I want GT6 for Playstation 3. I don't want the PS3 left with a flawed and unfinished Gran Turismo that is the 5th version.

Same for me.
But i will be strict referee this time...

 

[MJGAIR]

From what ive heard PS4 wont be out until end of 2014 or early 2015 and GT6 will be out end of 2015 or early 2016.

 

[Foxiol]

From what ive heard PS4 wont be out until end of 2014 or early 2015 and GT6 will be out end of 2015 or early 2016.

No. GT6 for 2014. We are going to see some news about that on E3 or TGS 12.

GT5 took so much time to be made just because they developed the new engine and i believe that they are going to use the same with upgrades for GT6.

GT5 = Late 2010 and GT6 = 5 years late? It just makes no sense at all. And if you take a look at the competition they are releasing games every 2 to 3 years.
So no. GT6 = Early/mid 2014.

Take a look at this:

Release dates by Polyphony Digital:

Gran Turismo (1997/12/23)
Gran Turismo 2 (1999/12/11)
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (2001/04/28)
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 (2002/01/01)
Gran Turismo 4 “Prologue” (2003/12/04)
Gran Turismo 4 (2004/12/28)
Gran Turismo 5 “Prologue” (2007/12/13)
Gran Turismo PSP (2009/10/01)
Gran Turismo 5 (2010/11/25)

Release Dates from our beloved Sony consoles:

Play Station: December 1994 (Japan) (i had it)
Play Station One: July 7, 2000 (i played with it)
Play Station 2: 2000 (i have it, slim version from 2004)
Play Station 3: November 2006 (i had the "Fat" 60GB and now the Slim 120GB/ with a 250GB HDD)

And thanks to Wikipedia they added this:

"PlayStation 4: The successor to the PlayStation 3 is in development and is expected to be released at the end of 2013, ahead of Microsoft's next generation console. Codenamed "Orbis", it is expected to feature AMD hardware and boast a resolution of up to 4096x2160. Sony has yet to officially acknowledge the console's existence, despite persistent rumors that an unveiling would take place during the 2012 Electronic Entertainment Expo."

 

[TokoTurismo]

From what ive heard PS4 wont be out until end of 2014 or early 2015 and GT6 will be out end of 2015 or early 2016.

Where did you get that imformation from? I don't understand. Whenever someone saids things "such as this", I find it funny how they never bring up a link.

No. GT6 for 2014. We are going to see some news about that on E3 or TGS 12.

Where did you get that imformation from!? Ghaaa! I'm going crazy.

Edit: ^You know I'm only playing around right? I love to hear about GT6 at E3 this year.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/Top-Gear-car-pack-announced-for-Forza-4-2012-04-25?imageNo=0

And no Skylines.

The Venom, Pacer, Galant, Legacy, 300 SRT8, and Healey would all be interesting to try.

 

[IRONBULL]

The guy with Illuminatus_13 for a PSN ID. ^^^

My username is meant for people like that.

Your username is a hyperbole and only defines the member who created it.

No. What you're going to do is stop double-posting, stop with the thinly-veiled snarky insults, and you'll stop trolling regardless of what anyone else does.

It's not a negotiation nor is it open to interpretation; I'm telling you to stop, if you can't discuss the matter at hand like a civilized individual then don't discuss it at all.

No what you will not do is pass out internet threats while telling me what I can and cannot conjecturally post.

I'm not double-posting, and the reason I started posting on GTP initially was that I got sick of hearing so-called 'GT insiders' talking up past/present-months of things that are not to come on GT5, while hardcore players excuse all the continuous issues with the game while kissing up to a new game that I'm guessing is suppose to excuse the current one....?

I have a right to express my on topic opinion on a moderated forum w/o threatening, or offending, or starting problems with members which I have "tried" to avoid. (Wasn't my 'intent' to out-right argue with others over "my-own" issues with the game)

Super Mod or not don't hate on me because you dislike ripples in your pond by-way of complaints I've posted concerning DLC/GT6 in these respective threads I've posted in.

@IRONBULL
Regression Ironbull. Regression. And you just admitted that you were a troll, tisk tisk tisk....

All newbies are trolls now-a-days anyway so I took the title and ran w/it. Can't regress from something your already on the bottom of.

No. I don't care if people have criticism for GT5 and PD. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but don't go around ranting about, because there's just no point.

👍 Roger that.

I'd like to slowly tare this statement apart, first by saying:
If we didn't ask for things and/or create high expectations for Gran Turismo 5, then why would Polyphony Digital feel so inclined to make it better and add DLC? Criticism is what makes the world go around, and it makes the world go around in much better quality.. Without people asking for more, you would never get a better product. You could easily connect that theory to the real world.. lets say; Automotive industry. For instance, Lamborghini. Customers complained about how useless the Air Conditioning systems of their vehicals were.. The new Aventador LP700-4 has great air conditioning.. Coincidence? Less then likely.. Please think more before typing some trash up..

Also, I thought I would add this in.. Saying you will stop trolling GTPlanet like it is your right to be able to in the first place.. is a misconception. You won't troll GTP. As a moderator has already mentioned.

Have a nice day sir.

In the mist of your 'tare' you are correct. Although if you can use the Lambo HVAC issue as an example to consumer/corporate relations, then you should have been able to read in between the lines of my rant to see that interaction with PD for improvements is just my point.

And to your last few sentences, please don't tell me about my 'rights'. Your only misconception about the internet noneless "www." is what you think you know about it.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Voted for DLC, GT6 is still atleast 5years away right? Why not get more for
GT5 while we can since it will most likely end up in GT6 anyway. Especially if we can get some of the old tracks back.

 

[Famine]

No what you will not do is pass out internet threats while telling me what I can and cannot conjecturally post.

Nope.

You will, if asked by a representative of the forums, cease posting any content.

Violation of these rules may result in termination of your account or your ability to access the GTPlanet website, and your service provider(s) may be notified. GTPlanet expressly reserve our rights under the law to take any other actions we deem necessary, and may remove posts or withdraw membership at any time for any reason.

You agreed to it, you stick to it. You were free not to agree to it, but you did. You have two choices and continuing to post while not sticking to your own promises is not one of those two.