DLC #4 vs. GT6

[another_jakhole]

3D was the the downfall of GT5 but thats not the reason it is not 720p, it was always gonna be as close to 1080p as they could get it!

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http://www.ps3news.com/PlayStation3...t_truly_1080p-_upscaled_trickery_in_action-1/
We're wrong.



There was a thread on GTP a while back that discussed this, and I believe it was proven that it's still the same for GT5.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis
This was the main reference in that thread.

 

[OHM_fusion]

I think most people who want to see GT6 on ps3 only think that way because they are afraid they will have to spend even more money on a new console if GT6 ends up being a ps4 title. And that's understandable, but there is really no point for GT6 on ps3.

GT5 is already compromised in graphics and performance. There is simply not enough room for improvement, and people want more cars, better graphics and physics on a system that is already maxed out by gt5, and all that in 2 years time?

They should prepare their assets for ps4 and start there.

 

[greg666]

I want GT6 for Playstation 3. I don't want the PS3 left with a flawed and unfinished Gran Turismo that is the 5th version.

Agree, PS4 would have brand new hardware. Try to fit GT6 in PS3 will be a waste of time. Also the time is not enough for them to release.

 

[ch3ng]

DLC

I'd rather have the next GT on the PS4, because from the looks of it the PS3's limitations have been reached. Having 16 cars at once is already taxing the PS3's RAM. The shadows might be fixed with a more powerful system, although I'm not sure about that. PD was told to increase the resolution, because of 3D, from 720p to 1080p and even then it isn't native 1080p. The PS3 just isn't enough for GT5 with the level of detail pursued by PD's graphics department.

Something else I'm not entirely sure about, but I think makes sense, is that the new physics engine's power coupled with the graphics on outdated hardware (and visible backseats in cockpit view) could mean a lot of things won't be improved if GT6 is on the PS3. Six years and you guys think they can harness a significant amount more of the PS3's power for a "complete" GT6?

Agree

3D was the the downfall of GT5 but thats not the reason it is not 720p, it was always gonna be as close to 1080p as they could get it!

Nope. GT5 runs on 720p nativ with 38-60FPS.
Without 3D Mode. It gets worse if you use 3D.

I voted GT6. Yes i know that DLC dont waste much Time, because they Create the Cars in better quality and can Easy decrease the quality for the PS3. If GT6 is a PS4 Game.

I would like to See GT6 on the PS4, because the PS3 reached its Limit. Ans i want up to 64 Cars in Track. We would Get more realistic Rave Series, because the have Often more than 16 Cars on Track. Or think about 24h races like Nurnburgring. It was Boring in GT5. The Cars on Track wasnt enough. Ok the AI was Bad, Not competitiv, but that is not - only - a problem of the ps3 hardware.

Yes GT6 can have improvments on PS3, if you think about Livery Editor, much better tyre physics,... But those improvments can be much better on better Hardware.

RAM is a huge problem here

 

[patriotzero]

gt6 will be on the ps4.

the ps3's timeline is getting closer. Gt6 will be wasted on the tripple. A brand new GT game at this point needs a fresh new console.

Prologue and number 5 sold enough copies this generation for polyphony

What about GT4? GT4 was triple A. It released in 2005. PS3 released 2006.
They need more development time to release on ps4

 

[analog]

Recently, everybody has been talking about DLC #4 and a new track for GT5. Many people on this forum are anticipating this. Despite this, Polyphony has not confirmed a 4th DLC pack.

People like me would rather have PD work on Gran Turismo 6 rather than Gran Turismo 5. GT5 is nearly a year and a half old, and in my opinion it doesn't need any more DLC. If PD starts focusing entirely on GT6 they might be able to finish it by mid-2013.

Would you rather see a 4th DLC pack as well as a track or would you like PD to focus on GT6 instead? The more PD focuses on GT6 the faster it gets done.

Obviously PD didn't confirm DLC pack 4, nor did they confirm pack 5, 6, etc. even though it's logical to assume they'll arrive when GT6 still takes a long while to be launched.
The content of each DLC pack will more or less automatically be included in GT6 as well so it won't stand in the way of GT6 development, it only creates revenue which can be used for it and it could also mean there's no need for a GT6 Prologue title taking development time away.
So the question whether I'd rather see them focus on GT6 or release more DLC is an irrelevant one since they aren't mutually exclusive.

However, if I had the choice of paying once for a new title already including all the separate content I have to pay more for combined it's obvious I'd go for that if I knew it would arrive quite soon.
We don't know when GT6 will arrive and on which platform it'll arrive and GT5's content might be enough for you but for many, more Premium cars and new tracks are very welcome since GT5's selection is very limited in many regards.
And those are modelled by teams separate from other teams working on GT6's game structure/physics, etc.

 

[roflcoptor]

I think most people who want to see GT6 on ps3 only think that way because they are afraid they will have to spend even more money on a new console if GT6 ends up being a ps4 title. And that's understandable, but there is really no point for GT6 on ps3.

GT5 is already compromised in graphics and performance. There is simply not enough room for improvement, and people want more cars, better graphics and physics on a system that is already maxed out by gt5, and all that in 2 years time?

They should prepare their assets for ps4 and start there.

Agreed. 👍

 

[JBanton]

I think most people who want to see GT6 on ps3 only think that way because they are afraid they will have to spend even more money on a new console if GT6 ends up being a ps4 title. And that's understandable, but there is really no point for GT6 on ps3.

GT5 is already compromised in graphics and performance. There is simply not enough room for improvement, and people want more cars, better graphics and physics on a system that is already maxed out by gt5, and all that in 2 years time?

They should prepare their assets for ps4 and start there.

Agree, PS4 would have brand new hardware. Try to fit GT6 in PS3 will be a waste of time. Also the time is not enough for them to release.

Agree

Nope. GT5 runs on 720p native with 38-60FPS.
Without 3D Mode. It gets worse if you use 3D.

I voted GT6. Yes i know that DLC dont waste much Time, because they create the cars in better quality and can easily decrease the quality for the PS3. If GT6 is a PS4 Game.

I would like to See GT6 on the PS4, because the PS3 reached its limits. Also I want up to 64 cars in track; we would Get more realistic Race Series, because they often have more than 16 Cars on Track. Or think about 24h races like Nurnburgring. It was Boring in GT5. The cars on track weren't enough. Ok the AI was bad; not competitive, but that is not - only - a problem of the ps3 hardware.

Yes GT6 can have improvments on PS3, if you think about Livery Editor, much better tyre physics,... But those improvments can be much better on better Hardware.

RAM is also a huge problem here

Fixed Ch3ng

I agree with all of these statements 👍

 

[coolboy48]

I can haz both plzzzz......

My thoughts:

GT6 should be prepared for the PS4 so I don't mind waiting. (Hardware limitations and all that...)

In the mean time, I would love some form of DLC.

Whether it is the form of more cars, more tracks, 'fixes' to the premiums (see my post history if you are interested), higher resolution textures for the standards or even a larger variety of engine sound samples, I would love anything new or different.

 

[Griffith500]

I don't see this as picking the one over the other. Pragmatically speaking, I know GT6 is already coming, I'll take a few more cars to tide me over, even if that means having a few fewer "new" cars for GT6.

This really isn't a case of one or the other, it's now or later. Oh, and PS3 is fine, thanks. There's much that can still be done with the game, outside of any technical burden that "3D" might impose...

 

[ERIC11940]

GT6 on PS4, but with PS3 graphics that has stuff that only PS4 could handle.

Think about it. If PD used the PS4 engine, they would take alot of years on GT6, and it would end up having the same fate GT5 did.

So does anyone agree that GT6 should be on the PS4 with PS3 graphics?

 

[georgetigra]

is very early for gt6..
i thing the best is fix gt5 to perfection!
and gt6 launch with ps4 !!

 

[interpolfan11]

Who said making DLC takes away from GT6? They can do both at the same time with different staff. If a new car/track is made, it will be used in GT6 as well, so we get a taste now and will see later in GT6. There isn't gonna be much of a difference where they would be forced to add more polygons to cars for GT6.

Splitting up resources and working on both at the same time results in less time being spent on GT6.

 

[NeoXenzaka]

You people would pick dlc 4 with probably only a few meager cars and a small expansion over a fresh new game loaded with content?

I feel like this meme is trying to be funny like every other memes, but it to, dissapoint.

 

[HuskyGT]

Voted for GT6. It's been too long now and the idea of them eventually adding more DLC to GT5 would only mean that GT6 is going to take longer.

Nevertheless, I would like that PD tells us once and for all if they are working on GT6 and what their plans are for GT5 so I can move on to another game and wait without axiety for the future GT title.

 

[coolboy48]

GT6 on PS4, but with PS3 graphics that has stuff that only PS4 could handle.

Think about it. If PD used the PS4 engine, they would take alot of years on GT6, and it would end up having the same fate GT5 did.

So does anyone agree that GT6 should be on the PS4 with PS3 graphics?

Meaning: non-flickery shadows, less usage of LODs and a resolution of 1920x1080 with maybe some AA, sure!

If it's true that PS4 will use a different architecture though, I wonder how it will affect the usability of the current game engine.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Splitting up resources and working on both at the same time results in less time being spent on GT6.

I don't see how it would take longer. Any resources spent making GT5 DLC would be part of GT6 anyway.

 

[McClarenDesign]

Meaning: non-flickery shadows, less usage of LODs and a resolution of 1920x1080 with maybe some AA, sure!

If it's true that PS4 will use a different architecture though, I wonder how it will affect the usability of the current game engine.

Every article I've read points to the end of backwards compatibility, so 5 likely won't work on the PS4.

 

[Topsu]

If GT6 is a PS4 launch game in holiday 2013, then that.

 

[1241Penguin]

Every article I've read points to the end of backwards compatibility, so 5 likely won't work on the PS4.

Added to that, why would you want GT5 on the PS4? Given that GT6 is already on it, and you haven't sold your PS3...

 

[OK8]

GT6 is still a far way away. There's no point for PD to stop making DLC for GT5.

 

[Samus]

I've said it so many times but i'll say it again, GT6 does not need to be on a next generation console to be great. The way people are going on you'd think the PS3 was never powerful enough for a great GT game which is of course ridiculous.

I'm not going to find my old posts to copy and paste but here are just some of the things they could add/enhance which are nothing to do with the power of the PS3:

- All premium cars
- More tracks and all of them with night/weather
- Hundreds more events and a completely updated A-Spec, remove the level system
- Online overhaul bringing lots more variety and community events like the 'other' game
- Much better customisation/RM over all the cars including a livery editor

There is more but that alone would make for a much better game. We don't need new hardware for a great GT game.

 

[Dean]

GT6 is still a far way away. There's no point for PD to stop making DLC for GT5.

Agreed.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I've said it so many times but i'll say it again, GT6 does not need to be on a next generation console to be great. The way people are going on you'd think the PS3 was never powerful enough for a great GT game which is of course ridiculous.

I'm not going to find my old posts to copy and paste but here are just some of the things they could add/enhance which are nothing to do with the power of the PS3:

- All premium cars
- More tracks and all of them with night/weather
- Hundreds more events and a completely updated A-Spec, remove the level system
- Online overhaul bringing lots more variety and community events like the 'other' game
- Much better customisation/RM over all the cars including a livery editor

There is more but that alone would make for a much better game. We don't need new hardware for a great GT game.

I have to agree.

GT5 could have came out a LOT better than it did and many possible improvements have nothing to do with PS3 limitations. PD just need to basically just start over again with GT6 and make sure they do a much better job developing the game.

 

[Spagetti69]

I agree with Simon too.
No matter if PS4 has more power, which it obviously will. The potential for failure is as high as GT5 was.

 

[Samus]

You also have to look at how many improvements the other game made over three games on the same console. The same goes for any type of game though, they improve through the same generation. You don't need a new console each time. I mean if GT6 came out on PS4 and still had flaws would you all be saying GT7 needed to be on the PS5?

There will ALWAYS be limits on a console or any piece of electronic hardware for that matter, it's all about briinging your software up to the limit and making the most of it. PD certainly didn't do that across the board with GT5, they could with GT6.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

I hope for DLC, looking at GT history even if they said they'll release GT6 at the end of 2013 we probably wont see it before 2015 so yeah. As for the which console it should be on, I hope for the PS4 and a more polish game this time. I really want a good online system and not something that have bugs all around and this time no Vsync problem and all car should be premium. Premium from gt5 would be ok I guess.

 

[Samus]

I hope for DLC, looking at GT history even if they said they'll release GT6 at the end of 2013 we probably wont see it before 2015 so yeah. As for the which console it should be on, I hope for the PS4 and a more polish game this time. I really want a good online system and not something that have bugs all around and this time no Vsync problem and all car should be premium. Premium from gt5 would be ok I guess.

Why do you think you need a PS4 for that?

 

[patriotzero]

I've said it so many times but i'll say it again, GT6 does not need to be on a next generation console to be great. The way people are going on you'd think the PS3 was never powerful enough for a great GT game which is of course ridiculous.

I'm not going to find my old posts to copy and paste but here are just some of the things they could add/enhance which are nothing to do with the power of the PS3:

- All premium cars
- More tracks and all of them with night/weather
- Hundreds more events and a completely updated A-Spec, remove the level system
- Online overhaul bringing lots more variety and community events like the 'other' game
- Much better customisation/RM over all the cars including a livery editor

There is more but that alone would make for a much better game. We don't need new hardware for a great GT game.

This. And track list could be this

-Infenion Raceway
-Midfield Raceway
-Twing Ring Motegi
-Apricot Hill Raceway
-Bathurst circuit(100% coming)
-Seattle
all of them have dynamic weather and day n night cycles!
I never no to any gt like this.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

The hype and excitement surrounding a new console always fogs people's minds. November 2013 = 3 years since GT5 release.

Wouldn't be surprised to see it then. On the PS3.