I enjoy rallies more than I do tarmac racing (- doesn't include the tarmac courses used in the Special Condition hall) sometimes. Rallying is much more fun, I think. It feels good when you can drift through those hairpins without bumping walls (though it's necessary in the actual races at times). I've been trying to find road cars that make good, the Audi A3 3.2 seemed good at Chamonix. And I tried simulating a Pikes Peak hillclimb with the closest thing, Grand Canyon, in the Audi Pikes Peak Quattro (feels perfect for that track. I recommend it to anyone who likes Grand Canyon:tup: ).
Does anybody actually rally willingly?
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RICHARDOAm I the only one that DOSEN'T intentionally hit walls?
You can do that?
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I've dabbled a little bit in dirt driving, and it really helps you come to terms with GT4's "unrealistic" rally mode. Especially when you find out that you will understeer off into the barriers if you carry too much speed into a turn, and that getting the back end to kick out when you're going fast (and not just when you're having fun, it's easy to kick the back end to kick out when you're driving at only 8-10ths) isn't as easy as it seems on TV.
Most rally simulations are a bit too easy...
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But even once you've learned how to actually drive on dirt in GT4, the damn 5 second penalties and getting tagged by the AI drivers just makes it not worth it. I still free run, though.
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Yes Niky, I have the 1337 capacity to drive rally WITHOUT hitting walls, it's hard as hell to control the urge though.
GT4's off-road physics I think are pretty well done, it's just the cars feel a little too light and twitchy for being off road. It doesen't feel like your driving in deep dirt, it feels more like ice, but besides that I think it's a pretty decent distraction physics-wise IMO, and definately underrated because of the 5 second penalty.
GT4's off-road physics I think are pretty well done, it's just the cars feel a little too light and twitchy for being off road. It doesen't feel like your driving in deep dirt, it feels more like ice, but besides that I think it's a pretty decent distraction physics-wise IMO, and definately underrated because of the 5 second penalty.
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yeah, i rallied a little im my bother's truck.[my actual brother's truck, just to clear it up.]
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The worst thing about rally on dirt or snow is having to pay for tyres for rally cars. The damn things should be standard on a rally car.
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I dont really like it, to me it's hard. Anyway I still have 3 or 4 Special Condition events left, and of course, they are rally.. I kind of like the snow w/o the penalty but after a while it gets boring.
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RICHARDOYes Niky, I have the 1337 capacity to drive rally WITHOUT hitting walls, it's hard as hell to control the urge though.
GT4's off-road physics I think are pretty well done, it's just the cars feel a little too light and twitchy for being off road. It doesen't feel like your driving in deep dirt, it feels more like ice, but besides that I think it's a pretty decent distraction physics-wise IMO, and definately underrated because of the 5 second penalty.
A very valid observation... I liken it to driving on a layer of very loose gravel over very hard-packed (rock-hard, actually) dirt... not fully representative of all types of rally stages, but a kind of terrain I'm familiar with... which is why I feel comfortable with it. But it never feels like you're biting into anything, no ruts, no deep stuff... no nothing... but then, that's probably a limitation of the physics engine more than anything else. Besides fluid dynamics, deep gravel or snow is probably the final frontier for videogames.
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Yep. I mean, creating an engine capable of accurately calculating all the small rocks, and their effect on the wheel, is pretty hard, I guess, and impossible to integrate on current-gen (gaming) hardware (since those high-end simulators over at NASA can probably do that). I mean, it has to figure out the density, the amount of sinking after time (depends on track conditions, type of dirt/snow, tyre width and strengh, and lots more), without even mentioning tracks where the wheels touch two surfaches, and combining the effects. And making it all look good...
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I do now! Just put a racing suspension and supercharger on my Dodge Ram, along with a set of dirt tires and just spent about 30minutes in photo drive on the Alps course.
Lifted the beast all the way up, cambered out the front tires, and put a Nerf suspension under it! Tomorrow I'll upgrade the rest of the drivetrain and mess around with the suspension some more.
When I get some more cash I'll get that Taco XRunner and make a Pikes Peak Truck out of it!
Lifted the beast all the way up, cambered out the front tires, and put a Nerf suspension under it! Tomorrow I'll upgrade the rest of the drivetrain and mess around with the suspension some more.
When I get some more cash I'll get that Taco XRunner and make a Pikes Peak Truck out of it!
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i rally all the time. i like it. i probly speak for everyone when i say this but the 5 sec. penalty SUCK!!!
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yes... sometimes for fun with the dodge ram lol
Hmm, I'd agree with that, but what about when they give you a penalty?
Typically, you can be driving well and the AI decide to go into a corner too fast, faster than 'ideal' that is, smacking you straight up the rear-end of your car & handing you a 5'er
. That, to answer the thread's question, is what keeps me from ralying willingly:.
FormulaGT
Typically, you can be driving well and the AI decide to go into a corner too fast, faster than 'ideal' that is, smacking you straight up the rear-end of your car & handing you a 5'er. That, to answer the thread's question, is what keeps me from ralying willingly:.FormulaGT
I do solo rallies on the swiss alps course just better myself. I find it even more fun to do it with every AWD wagon I can find, like the Nissan Stagea Autech version (latest impreza WRX wagon and Audi RS6 Avant are fastest). There's just something magical about drifting a sports wagon...
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Well, I'll willingly go to Tahiti, Swiss Alps, Chamonix and those El Capital stages(Forget the name), just aslong as its not in the special conditions hall, that penalty system is the devil in GT-Form.
