Does Anyone Watch Wrestling? (WWE, AEW, TNA, NWA, etc)

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Some reports say that Charlotte had to be escorted out of the arena by security.
 
Oh my goodness... I surely hope Jim Ross is alright. I also see AEW Dynamite is on right now on TNT as of the time of this post.
 
New reports came in that Becky throwing the belt at Charlotte was actually in the script and Charlotte was the only one who went off script. Charlotte did get escorted out of the arena but it was out of recommendation as Becky was doing a Dark match after the show

Also confirmed, Wrestlemania will be a 2 Night event again. I actually prefer the 2 Night schedule as Wrestlemania is an endurance to sit through as of late and cutting it in halves makes it easier to sit through both.
 
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WWE revealed their PPV schedule for next year, there are more Saturday shows than on Sunday making a big change after 30+ years, Mania is a two-nighter as mentioned, there were talks about the UK potentially hosting a PPV but that's not happening next year at least, a few of the PPV's don't have names yet.

Congratulations to Corey Graves and Carmella on their engagement.
 
Seems there is no PPV between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. Unless Super Showdown is going to happen there.

Sort of relieved. One thing I hated about February PPVs was they were way too predictable since plans for Wrestlemania already show themselves at that point ever since 2011. It ruined Elimination Chamber matches as a whole.
 
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New Japan Tidbit: Okada has been awarded the last IWGP Heavyweight Championship belt instead of carrying a briefcase with a contract for a match at Wrestle Kingdom. The way it's being spun is that Okada intends to hold this belt and rematch Ibushi for it...and that he has no interest in the IWGP WHC. The old belt is not active as a championship, and is (as of now) taking the place of the contract.

I'm already hearing the internet get heated about it being brought back fully, replacing the WHC, but I wouldn't go that far. I still don't care for the new belt, but I don't know how hitting the "🤬! Go back!" button now will do anything but cut down the whole organization at worst, and undermine the prestige of either title at best...BUT, I am not well versed on this and I don't have any insight at all. Just a ramble.
 
Side note on the Lynch/Charlotte situation:

Friend of mine on another message board who was in the wrestling business has a friend of a friend who's on the active womens roster in WWE, and the TL;DR is Charlotte is apparently pre-back injury Shawn Michaels-levels of difficult to work with.

without giving too much away, I have a friend of a friend currently in WWE women's division, so I hear a lot about Charlotte, much of it predating this or the embarrassing scrap she had with Nia Jax. Everything in these reports rings true with what I've heard - that she's impossible to deal with, thinks she's untouchable, works too stiff, does nothing to protect her opponents, and management do **** all to punish her or address any of it, so she keeps getting worse. Title matches, feuds, entire gimmicks have been dropped because Charlotte pulled the "that doesn't work for me, brother" card. I've heard people who are universally liked in wrestling, and have nothing bad to say about anyone, go from loving their job to saying that the whole company is a joke for how much they let her get away with.

I don't know if it's just a matter of her adapting to the horrible atmosphere as it is that I think they don't see the women's division as being as worthwhile as they once did - they don't have a Ronda Rousey to build around any more, they've burned through all the "historic first time ever" matches, and they're back to giving the women a couple of minutes unless they're one of the chosen few; both women's matches on RAW this week were under 3 minutes, and there were no women's matches on Smackdown (though there was the angle that kicked off this discussion). I think they care so little about the division that Charlotte is tacitly allowed to get away with things that a male wrestler never would be, because there's less management scrutiny on the women's division. That's just a hunch.



Ultimately, someone else already used the "Shawn Michaels in '97" analogy, but that's what I've been saying for months now.
 
Seth Rollins is the number one contender to Big E's WWE title after winning an excellent ladder match on Raw's main event, he beat Finn Balor, Rey Mysterio and Kevin Owens, the match was PPV worthy and Rollins facing Big E is a bit 10 years in the making as the faced each other on NXT for the NXT title way back when.

Becky Lynch and Bianca Belair will battle for the Women's title next week after Bianca interrupted Becky's promo and they fought, RK-Bro faced Ziggler/Roode for the titles and they retained, this was after they beat Alpha Academy and Street Profits in a triple threat. Damien Priest returned to face T-Bar which led to a DQ after a few minutes then Priest just beat up T-Bar, Dominik Mysterio faced Austin Theory in a nice little match. Keith Lee battered Cedric Alexander, There were two women's matches but sadly they were very quick once again and both were rematches.

Good show overall.
 
Side note on the Lynch/Charlotte situation:

Friend of mine on another message board who was in the wrestling business has a friend of a friend who's on the active womens roster in WWE, and the TL;DR is Charlotte is apparently pre-back injury Shawn Michaels-levels of difficult to work with.
Glad someone else brought up how a lot of Womens first time evers have just been gimmicks and not actual advances for the Division.

Evolution PPV had a terrible build up with only 3 actual storylines heading to it one of it was featuring legends Trish and Lita (2017 Elimination Chamber also had 3 women storylines and that was using half the roster) The other wrestlers were thrown into a Battle Royal. The Evolution set itself was built like a House Show.

While I do agree with the Women's Main Event of Wrestlemania 35 to be a good choice due to how that storyline is playing out. They had nothing for the Women outside of this to the point they randomly shoved the Smackdown Women's Championship on Charlotte just add unnecessary stakes to the Triple Threat (Becky 2 Belts felt really forced especially since she quickly dropped the Smackdown Womens title), it really should've just been for the Raw Women's Title and give Asuka an actual storyline for her to defend the Smackdown one.

Also, funny how the first Women's Royal Rumble is the only one that was in the Main Event
 
NXT Halloween Havoc is tonight, Don't know all the matches but there is Ciampa v Breakker for the NXT title, a few other title matches I think too.
 
So...riddle me this. I seem to recall for YEARS hearing that there were many times in history where 'Ric Flair' overrode Richard Fliehr, so many stories where the ring persona just never turned off. I don't know if David or Reid ever displayed this trait, but does this not feel like Charlotte doing the exact same thing? Be it intentional or not, I always wondered if this could happen.
 
So...riddle me this. I seem to recall for YEARS hearing that there were many times in history where 'Ric Flair' overrode Richard Fliehr, so many stories where the ring persona just never turned off. I don't know if David or Reid ever displayed this trait, but does this not feel like Charlotte doing the exact same thing? Be it intentional or not, I always wondered if this could happen.
Not really a Flair thing (wasn't HBK very similar), it's a trap any performer whether Wrestler, Actor or even Voice Actor can fall into. Playing a character for so long can influence you as a person, not always a bad thing mind you, taking this out of left field for a second, in the cartoon Total Drama. The VA for Heather (the main antagonist of Season 1 and is constantly an ***) got a lot more assertive due to her role when she was more reserved and shy before. Taking this back to Flairs and Wrestling, it only becomes a problem once you start taking all of the traits of the character, even a bad one. Which Charlotte could've just done and believed her own hype created by her heel on screen Persona.
 
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Tommaso Ciampa successfully defended his NXT title against Bron Breakker last night, however we do have new champions, Mandy Rose beat Raquel Gonzalez to become new NXT women's champ, this was after Dakota Kai returned to screw Raquel, Toxic Attraction completed the prophecy when Jacy James and Gigi Dolan became new tag team champs beating Shirai/Stark and Hartwell/Pirotta, Io Shirai took a horrific bump when she landed awkwardly onto a ladder outside but she is Okay, finally Imperium beat MSK to become new tag champs, The Usos younger brother made his debut under the name Solo Sikoa.

Smackdown announcer Greg Hamilton was released yesterday, this was because he sent Instagram messages threatening legal action to a rapper.
 
And with ROH has one-upped WWE in releases by releasing everyone...

I've done the Escape from Undertaker, Netflix choose your own adventure movie. Really short and if you know the patterns of the choose your own adventure genre, you can get to end without any trouble. I do like how some of the choice is just what perspective you want to see the scene in though. I went for the Kofi Kingston perspective everytime. I might go back to it just to see Big E and Xavier Woods perspectives. It incites replayability which I can give it credit for. Though it's very bare bones.
 
Charlotte Flair has been pulled from media duties this week.

Bray Wyatt officially a free agent from Friday.
 
So WWE will be buying up their tape library around late January, then?
I remember when rumours circled around with TNA when they were in a rot.

It's weird to see ROH go in the dumps before TNA/Impact like people expected back then before Impact got its act slightly together
 
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If there's any silver lining to the ROH thing, it's that they are going through the year. They don't have a stellar reputation away from the ring, but personally I think releasing the talent to go elsewhere while still able to pay them through December, and I think I heard some situations would be paid through March/April, is a lot better than the Dub's "We don't want you here, and we don't want you anywhere for three months" deal.

It could also be a heads up that they fully intend to see through a rebuild. What's ROH's position in the market right now? Pretty good wrestling without all the WWE pomp and fluff...to be nice...but in the last two years AEW(and by extension Impact) and NJPW Strong seem to have covered a lot of that ground themselves. Where could they go? No clue, I'm not that creative.
 
It could also be a heads up that they fully intend to see through a rebuild. What's ROH's position in the market right now? Pretty good wrestling without all the WWE pomp and fluff...to be nice...but in the last two years AEW(and by extension Impact) and NJPW Strong seem to have covered a lot of that ground themselves. Where could they go? No clue, I'm not that creative.
What ROH really needs is a clearer sense of identity like their early days of "here's some great wrestlemen who basically just do wrestle moves". Not saying going full-bore back to "guys who can do ALL THE MOVEZ and nothing else" is a great idea, it isn't; still, something to make it stand out from any number of feds that sprouted up since their birth who have more or less done the same thing.
 
I remember when rumours circled around with TNA when they were in a rot.

It's weird to see ROH go in the dumps before TNA/Impact like people expected back then before Impact got its act slightly together
Especially when this article says that ROH actually wasn't losing any money for Sinclair Broadcast Group pre-pandemic, which is really rather impressive. Though it also does make a very good point that never establishing a weekly network show anywhere, despite being directly tied to a major broadcast group, and letting their top draws leave to eventually go to that upstart new promotion AEW really shot them in the tail long before they had to stop running live shows.

It also makes a good point in that WWE probably wouldn't buy the tape library since all the ROH guys that worked for them have long since left, and if anyone would be interested it'd be AEW. Especially since it would include the first All In PPV, which is what really kicked off AEW in the first place.
 
Not a lot of happening on Smackdown last night, fairly boring show, there were a couple of interesting things though.

Charlotte started the show (which was pretty brave I thought!) she said that she is the face of the company and that her winning a title is just another Friday, Sasha then came out to say that she holds everyone down and she was followed by Shotzi who challenged Charlotte to a match (non-title), they then had the match which was fine mostly but there were a few little botches from Shotzi (the dive from the ring to outside came up short and Charlotte had to move forward to catch her) Sasha was still outside causing distraction which led to Charlotte winning and then Shotzi attacked Sasha afterwards which went on for a little while, so it seems Shotzi is getting a little push.

Adam Pearce was at home and he announced that on top of Brock Lesnar's suspension he has also been fined $1 million (which is like one appearance for Brock!) Paul Heyman was watching backstage when Kayla Braxton asked him how would Brock respond then Heyman went into full 'Lesnar advocate' mode until he realised he was doing it and stopped to say 'why would you ask me that?' then walked off...

That was pretty much it TBH, then main event was Usos v New Day for the millionth time which says a lot, the only thing they advertised for the show beforehand was the trick or street fight.

However there was some fun to be had in the dark matches before and after the show, before the show NXT's Raquel Gonzalez had a match and so did the Creed Bros from Diamond Mine, after the match its was a six-man tag with Bloodline v Street Profits and McIntyre, Heyman got involved and tagged himself in!, he tripped up on the ropes and fell flat on his face then got pummeled by Montez Ford a tiny bit and left like he'd done 10 rounds with Tyson Fury! :lol:
 
I do think turning Heel over an accident is really dumb catalyst to suddenly become as ***. I feel that way about Tag Team Break Ups as well.

"I tried to swing at my opponent but she dodged and I nearly hit you, so it's all YOUR FAULT, not the opponent dodging my attack" :lol::lol::lol:
 
"I tried to swing at my opponent but she dodged and I nearly hit you, so it's all YOUR FAULT, not the opponent dodging my attack" :lol::lol::lol:
"I tried to grab the other guy from behind, but he fell over at the last second and you clotheslined me off the apron. You clearly betrayed me because my attempt at cheating backfired! How dare you!" :mad:
 
"I tried to grab the other guy from behind, but he fell over at the last second and you clotheslined me off the apron. You clearly betrayed me because my attempt at cheating backfired! How dare you!" :mad:
Oooh, we're doing wrestling logic time?

"You may have brutally attacked me, my friends, and threatened my family; but BY GOD, I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE PAY PER VIEW TO KICK YOUR ASS"
 
Lynch v Belair for the Raw women's title on Raw tonight, after what happened on Smackdown the week after last don't be surprised if Belair wins the title so they can avoid Lynch v Charlotte at Survivor Series.
 
Lynch v Belair for the Raw women's title on Raw tonight, after what happened on Smackdown the week after last don't be surprised if Belair wins the title so they can avoid Lynch v Charlotte at Survivor Series.
If that happens imagine being punished for the other person going off script :lol:
 
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