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- greggypoos
Does Kaz's letter make any sense?
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I did all the menu books and had zero given to me. I’ve had to buy them all. A gr3 car costs around 700k with parts and tyres. At about 10k for a race c online earnings will get me nothing; so grinding is the only option open to me now if I want to expand my selection of race cars.
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- marc9600
Yes, it was exactly the same in GT Sport and I could never figure out why the payouts were so low for the online races, is it because they want to try and keep an even playing field so the best racers (and believe me, I'm not one of them) don't accumulate gazillions of credits? At the very least they could up the payouts by 50% and they still wouldn't add up to much.
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- Mangosaurus
Because Sony will be wanting game sales right now, and to have current owners playing it/continuing to play it from now until the next lot of DLC/add ons. Otherwise if players know the DLC (and whatever it may be) is coming later, Sony know that there will be a few people who delay buying the game until said update arrives, and that some current players will stop playing the game until the update - thus reducing the likelihood of extra income (microtransactions/new sales) during this time.
This is Kaz's baby, he wants to gush about it as much as possible, and if he is 'pained' by something then clearly it's something he's not allowed/advised to talk about. There has got to be a reason for it, as he's never said such a thing before for any previous GT game that i can recall. Excluding the times when he wanted some things to be a surprise for players, but i don't ever remember him expressing anything other than excitement for those times.
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There are two logical conclusions you can draw from the way this games economy works.
One, it is simply poor game design.
Or, two, it is pure greed.
I don't believe it is both, as anyone with a functioning brain would have realised the lack on content would force people to grind the most profitable events over and over again.
We all worked that out pretty much straight away, and PD have been designing, testing, retesting, tinkering etc...for years.
They knew exactly what they were doing.
For me, that's the end of the matter.
Unfortunately, they then made another stupid, greedy decision and priced those MTXs obscenely high, and then knowingly, cynically, priced those important classic cars at such a high price thar they are, to all intents and purposes, DLC cars.
Any goodwill they had is bleeding away fast...oh, and to not offer something as a token gesture, as compensation, reinforces how greedy they are.
One, it is simply poor game design.
Or, two, it is pure greed.
I don't believe it is both, as anyone with a functioning brain would have realised the lack on content would force people to grind the most profitable events over and over again.
We all worked that out pretty much straight away, and PD have been designing, testing, retesting, tinkering etc...for years.
They knew exactly what they were doing.
For me, that's the end of the matter.
Unfortunately, they then made another stupid, greedy decision and priced those MTXs obscenely high, and then knowingly, cynically, priced those important classic cars at such a high price thar they are, to all intents and purposes, DLC cars.
Any goodwill they had is bleeding away fast...oh, and to not offer something as a token gesture, as compensation, reinforces how greedy they are.
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they are locked behind gold on licenses and some missions, i got like 4 gr4 cars and 3 gr3, never paid a dime
I get the point but with the games economy the way it is you have to grind something as if you did all events only once you still dont have enough money to buy one 20m car.
Its a badly broken system designed to push you spending more money.
Seems 70 quid a game isnt enough to cover costs these days.
Except they've already given us a vague list of stuff coming in future updates even before the game released, in this letter Kaz has reiterated that updates are coming and even told people to expect a game that takes years to finish.
What difference would it make if Kaz gave a more detailed breakdown of the updates, what, and when? If people have already read his message and that post, they've already decided to wait or not. Giving everyone else a list, people who have already paid money for the game, is just a courtesy to keep THEM involved.
Just saying "We'll add stuff, game will last for years, please keep playing" isn't going to cut it for most people.
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It would have made sense if the events had been tweaked to reflect its contents.
Right now, the only events with a reasonable payout are Dirt Champions, so his tweaks actually achieved the opposite of what they were supposed to. No way I'm doing WTC 800 or GT Cup Gr.3 more than once, it simply isn't worth.
Right now, the only events with a reasonable payout are Dirt Champions, so his tweaks actually achieved the opposite of what they were supposed to. No way I'm doing WTC 800 or GT Cup Gr.3 more than once, it simply isn't worth.
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After all of this^, you have to be incredibly naive to think Kaz (or whoever wrote that crap) is being genuine about that statement.
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Well it made sense in that he made it clear he was only apologising for the outage, and unapologetic for the microtransactions and the game economy built around it. The justifications were always going to be nonsense, he was never going to say the true intention of the update was to steer people towards microtransactions.
What he really wants out of making this statement is in the last paragraph;
Or to put it another way - that he wants you to keep playing the game and forget about this issue.
But he also doesn't want to commit to changing the game to address these issues, nor does he want to commit to providing details of updates that would actually make players excited for (or invite scrutiny of) the longer term changes to the game. So he wants it both ways.
What he really wants out of making this statement is in the last paragraph;
Or to put it another way - that he wants you to keep playing the game and forget about this issue.
But he also doesn't want to commit to changing the game to address these issues, nor does he want to commit to providing details of updates that would actually make players excited for (or invite scrutiny of) the longer term changes to the game. So he wants it both ways.
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- Technix_77
I understand what Kaz is saying... and I don't agree with it.
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Hey, i'm just giving my take on what he said. Like you, and everyone else, i don't know what's really going on. I just wrote what i wrote because in my head that's how it played out. I may be wrong, but others who took those comments other ways may also be wrong. We won't know until stuff actually happens.
