Dont Redline Your Cars.
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- Liquid_Li0n
Can you give us more photos or videos, DevilgtX? Especially from those big pick-up trucks.
Thanks
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DevilGTx
great...but unless you know one or the other you cant just magic these figures up from no-where, and even then there is tyre pressures/gearing/how good the run was blah blah
one car could have no interior, the exact same could have a huge ice install/bags of cement....or anything stuck in the boot
unless they have a weighbridge you see them all go through ?
sorry...I just dont know where you're going with all this
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dont mean to bring back a topic from the dead...but i beat the living *%@ out of my cars and they still perform well, i would love it if i had to replace tires realisticly, as in if the 2 lap races counted towards tire wear lol.
- 1,003
I beat the Frickin Crap out of my cars...many a day I bounce of the rev-limiter hundreds of times...burnouts, brake-torques, & so forth...& I've never seen anything of the like....I generally don't drive a car more than 300 miles or so at best...but I've done many a donut in used cars & never lost power
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Well if they are gonna give damage, then you should be able to repair it.Will refresh restore that lost hp?
- 1,003
refreshing only fixes the crazy oversteer they like to give you---i'd hate if cars actually got horribley deformed frames after 300miles---it's a little gay how fast they have that
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That is the correct answer. 👍TheWizardAllow me to make a little correction: HP permanent drop in GT3 comes from mileage, not from overreving your vehicle. I can't remember the exact number, but it happens really early too (within the first 500 miles), while GT Tester had 37200 Km (I assume) which is 23115 miles (roughly). Overreving your vehicle in GT3 has no effect whatsoever, as the only drop you get is if your oil gets dirty (recoverable HP - just change the oil) or if your vehicle has xxx (again, can't remember the number) - in this case the HP drop will be permanent, and there will be no way to recover it (except buying/winning a new vehicle, of course- and that is if the vehicle was not unique (meaning you can only win it once) to start with - in which case you will just have to deal with it).
But yeah, I agree, the drop is not that big of a deal, unless you are racing for the fastest lap possible (like in an Online Competition), in which case, for psychological reasons, I'd rather have the full HP amount, rather than knowing I am driving a not optimized vehicle... It makes a little difference as far as lap time goes...
EDIT: Ok, since I don't like spreading uncertain information, I actually bothered looking it up... Check this thread: Everything you always wanted to know about HP, break in, and oil changes
It explains, well, "everything you always wanted to know about HP, break in, and oil changes"
The Wizard.
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While I think it would be cool if there was a little more to engine maintenance by way of rewarding mechanical sympathy or punishing the ham-fisted, for the vast majority of GT players this woud either not be noticed or, at best, a distraction. I suspect the average player would not wish to be concrned with such things (all the more reason to have a 'sim' setting)
With regards to over-revving the engine in GT4, does doing so increase fuel consumption? And, if so, by how much as compared to keeping it below the red-line?
With regards to over-revving the engine in GT4, does doing so increase fuel consumption? And, if so, by how much as compared to keeping it below the red-line?
- 357
before i race a car, i take it for a test spin, you know tuning and the stuff, i make sure i know the rev limiter by heart that way i always shift about 50rpm's or so before it lol, my favorite is the 3.2 CL-S6 because it redlines at like 6500 and i shift at like 7900 lolBrock5000
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TheWizardAllow me to make a little correction: HP permanent drop in GT3 comes from mileage, not from overreving your vehicle. I can't remember the exact number, but it happens really early too (within the first 500 miles), while GT Tester had 37200 Km (I assume) which is 23115 miles (roughly). Overreving your vehicle in GT3 has no effect whatsoever, as the only drop you get is if your oil gets dirty (recoverable HP - just change the oil) or if your vehicle has xxx (again, can't remember the number) - in this case the HP drop will be permanent, and there will be no way to recover it (except buying/winning a new vehicle, of course
But yeah, I agree, the drop is not that big of a deal, unless you are racing for the fastest lap possible (like in an Online Competition), in which case, for psychological reasons, I'd rather have the full HP amount, rather than knowing I am driving a not optimized vehicle... It makes a little difference as far as lap time goes...
EDIT: Ok, since I don't like spreading uncertain information, I actually bothered looking it up... Check this thread: Everything you always wanted to know about HP, break in, and oil changes
It explains, well, "everything you always wanted to know about HP, break in, and oil changes"
The Wizard.
thanks wizard, very helpful
- 357
jamaicanhmmm... interesting topic, if you wanted it to be like reality you could 'baby' your car... i don't do that though, i redline every gearand revv the s**t out of it
Lets put it this way, when i get angry in a race, i downshift from 5th to 2nd which brings me from 210mph to 70mph when going into a turn, then i smash the pedal until it starts bouncing, and then i let it bounce for a second or 2 and then i shift, and repeat...lol after 10 19 laps of seoul i burned 1/2 tank of gas.
this is probably what the turbo in my 787B looked like all of last night
I think it would be cool if you could see the turbo's glowing, on the cars the turbos are visible...lol
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- davegeorge78
Interestinng topic, when you drive a car standard the gear change light always tells you to shift right on the redline, if you perform and engine balance and port polish one of the advantages is that the engine always revs higher ie into the red box....I think the amount of power you lose is from mileage not over-revving and its neglible how much it matters anyhow as its possible to win/buy most cars over and over...
However i would like to see engine damage in GT4 as a "switch on" mode that you could choose, would make the OLR more interesting if you had to be mindfull of not damaging your engine whilst trying for that perfect lap....
regards
Dave
However i would like to see engine damage in GT4 as a "switch on" mode that you could choose, would make the OLR more interesting if you had to be mindfull of not damaging your engine whilst trying for that perfect lap....
regards
Dave
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Thats a cool pic,and that would be awsome.Especaily the toyota 7 💡.nismo4lifeLets put it this way, when i get angry in a race, i downshift from 5th to 2nd which brings me from 210mph to 70mph when going into a turn, then i smash the pedal until it starts bouncing, and then i let it bounce for a second or 2 and then i shift, and repeat...lol after 10 19 laps of seoul i burned 1/2 tank of gas.
this is probably what the turbo in my 787B looked like all of last night
I think it would be cool if you could see the turbo's glowing, on the cars the turbos are visible...lol
- 357
seriously, im kind of scared to get Forza. Im going to buy an Xbox 360 after xmas (go ahead, critisize/flame on) to keep me entertained until PS3 is released. I've played Forza and my friend said that if you rev too high it can damage the engine...knowing my driving style i will be blowing motors left and right 
hopefully In project Gotham 3 i can rev the chit out of the Ferrari's and have a few blow to add to that online video of the 456 GT 
hopefully In project Gotham 3 i can rev the chit out of the Ferrari's and have a few blow to add to that online video of the 456 GT - 683
Good one 👍- 72
Hey guys i rev limit my 350 Z when drifting and i never lost HP at all.
But no argument, If it happens all we can do is be careful how we rev our cars.
I recommend breaking the engines first & servicing for a couple of months then race'em.
4 months ago i bought the new WRX STi as a drive car, It already has 12000 k's on the clock. I never over revved it, I serviced it at its first 1200 k's & it still runs like a dream.
Its already due for its 3rd service. Having drive cars relaxes me after hours of race/drifting.
But no argument, If it happens all we can do is be careful how we rev our cars.
I recommend breaking the engines first & servicing for a couple of months then race'em.
4 months ago i bought the new WRX STi as a drive car, It already has 12000 k's on the clock. I never over revved it, I serviced it at its first 1200 k's & it still runs like a dream.
Its already due for its 3rd service. Having drive cars relaxes me after hours of race/drifting.
- 683
Indeed, but isn't the lowest part visible in red the turbo (with the gas passing through it in going direction exhaust) ???
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In GT3, there is engine wear and engine damage.
Engine wear happens when racing endurance races that are so long that an oil change is needed, if you remember when racing in the championships/endurance races, the oil lamp turns on during mid race and a little after that..power loss.
When the race has finished you change the oil, but the original power you started with is now unrecoverable...if you remember....that's why it is now possible to change the oil mid endurance/championship in GT4...........
..........Poly had made a mistake........
Engine damage or Damage in General in GT3 happens when you race/drive and hit/crash the car, it is not noticible straight away, but it will happen..just like in real life as in GT3 you have to take care of your car.
To retrieve loss of power in Any car in GT4, the best way is to buy it from your memory card.
What this will do is set your car back to the day you purchased it.
So if you brought a used car with 15k on the clock and it is now 34k,when you repurchase the car it will revert back to the original state of purchase and you get to keep your choice of colour...But You Will Lose Your Upgrades, so you will have buy them all over again.
Engine wear happens when racing endurance races that are so long that an oil change is needed, if you remember when racing in the championships/endurance races, the oil lamp turns on during mid race and a little after that..power loss.
When the race has finished you change the oil, but the original power you started with is now unrecoverable...if you remember....that's why it is now possible to change the oil mid endurance/championship in GT4...........
..........Poly had made a mistake........
Engine damage or Damage in General in GT3 happens when you race/drive and hit/crash the car, it is not noticible straight away, but it will happen..just like in real life as in GT3 you have to take care of your car.
To retrieve loss of power in Any car in GT4, the best way is to buy it from your memory card.
What this will do is set your car back to the day you purchased it.
So if you brought a used car with 15k on the clock and it is now 34k,when you repurchase the car it will revert back to the original state of purchase and you get to keep your choice of colour...But You Will Lose Your Upgrades, so you will have buy them all over again.
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I have just read the thread that The Wizard had posted and good as it is , lacks information when you hit/crash your car in GT3.
And you all know what happens when you crash your car and then have it repaired.....it's not the same.
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The V In V - Spec Stands for Victory
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Dubbing Is A Must - I Jahman Levi
And you all know what happens when you crash your car and then have it repaired.....it's not the same.
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The V In V - Spec Stands for Victory
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Dubbing Is A Must - I Jahman Levi
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I have always been of the impression that unrecoverable engine damage had been removed for GT4. No matter how much power you lost, you could always get it back with an oil change.
The used cars are different, they'll never have the same hp as a new one.
But:
Is it possible that the 4 hp difference noted at the start of the thread (back in January, remember) could have arisen from the 3 or 4 different power figures that GT4 quotes (ie depending on whether you are looking at the purchase screen, the tuning screen, or the replay)?
The used cars are different, they'll never have the same hp as a new one.
But:
Is it possible that the 4 hp difference noted at the start of the thread (back in January, remember) could have arisen from the 3 or 4 different power figures that GT4 quotes (ie depending on whether you are looking at the purchase screen, the tuning screen, or the replay)?
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