Dragonthing's Garage: NEW! Hyundai Click Type-R!

[Dragonthing]

By the By, when is your wi-fi going to be back up? I wouldn't mind tuning a car with you some time. I would be interested in learning how.

I'd love to try that some time. It seems I might be waiting another couple of weeks though...

 

[GiovyLM]

I love the A110 and i want to try this tune , unfortunately i don't race with SH tires but with SS tires , i hope that SS tires will fit on your tune -----edit---- giod car , also with SS tires

 

[Dragonthing]

I love the A110 and i want to try this tune , unfortunately i don't race with SH tires but with SS tires , i hope that SS tires will fit on your tune -----edit---- giod car , also with SS tires

Go right ahead and chuck SS tyres on there, it's even better!

 

[samisbeast]

That's unfortunate that the wifi company is not working in your favor

 

[Dragonthing]

So I've been busy buying some cars I have tuned in GT5 in the past, and I'll be working through them over the coming days/weeks. The list so far is:

VW Golf VI R 2010 - GT5 Spec II tune from RKM
RKM Python - 2013 Viper GTS full power Sports Soft tune
HPA FT800 Audi TT - Updated from RKM
Isuzu 4200R - Now with more power! From the old Dragon garage
McLaren MP4 LM - From the RKM garage
Honda S2000 LM Turbo - From RKM garage
Dodge Viper GTS 2002 - Track tune, with 700bhp now!
The Dragon ZX - full power tuner from the RKM garage, 850+bhp
Skyline R34 Touring - More power, more grip!
Cizeta V16T - No longer the RKM Black Swan, it's got downforce and everything now
Impreza WRX STI Touring 2005 - Thinks it's a rally car now, I'm proving that wrong
Suzuki Cervo Works RS - The original Dragon garage Cervo! GT6 has completely ass-backwards special needs suspension settings though so this one will have a full retune
Silvia S13 Drift and Circuit tunes! - The old S13 beginner's drifter is returning along with it's 400+bhp sleeper brother from the old Dragon garage...

And probably more to come, as well as a request Diablo GT

EDIT: I almost forgot...

Mitsubishi i-MiEV - Epic adorable thing!
Toyota Vitz RS Supercharged - 230+bhp and FWD, what could go wrong?

 

[GiovyLM]

The Isuzu is a car that i would to race with , i will wait your tune for this car

 

[Dragonthing]

The Isuzu is a car that i would to race with , i will wait your tune for this car

I loved it so much back in GT5, I just have to bring it back in GT6 now...hope it's still as fun as it used to be

 

[samisbeast]

I'm assuming you got your wifi back since you accepted my friend request. Shoot me a PM when you wanna play!

 

[ALB123]

Manufacturer: Alpine
Model: A110 1600S '72

Performance Points: 497 PP
Horsepower: 194 BHP @ 7,300 RPM
Torque: 20.2 kgfm @ 5,800 RPM
Weight: 664 kg
Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Rear Wheel Drive
Engine: 1,565cc 4-cyl NA

Description:
While one of my all-time favorite cars might be the Alpine A610 - specifically the V6 Le Mans Turbo model, thanks for asking - the A110 is still the best looking car in this game by a long shot. The Alpine is a good example of how do rear-engine and drive right, here's looking at you RUF and Volkswagen. The Alpine you see here is a limited-run 1600RS model, in original banana yellow, and ready to beat any other silly Euro sports thing you can find. It has nearly 200bhp of classic NA power and a soundtrack to match, and it's nearly impossible not to look awesome teaching all these new hot hatches how it's supposed to be done. I've even chucked in two gearboxes for the price of one. The short-range 5-speed is perfect for tackling tight, complex circuits and spinning that inside rear tyre into smoke because diffs are for girls Or you can pick the standard 5-speed long box if you need to tackle something a little longer.

Colour: Yellow Pearl

Body:
Aero A
Flat Floor A
Custom Wing A

Wheels: Hayashi Racing Streetwheel (+2")

Parts List:
Sports - Hard Tyres
Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brake Kit

Fully Customisable Transmission
Mechanical LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Torque-Distributing Centre Diff.

Engine Stage 1
Sports ECU
Intake Tuning
Racing Exhaust
Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter - Sports
High RPM Turbocharger
Nitro Kit

Weight Reduction Stage 1
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet (Body Colour)

Suspension (Front/Rear):
Ride Height: 75/75
Spring Rate: 6.50/4.00
Compression: 3/3
Extension: 4/3
Anti-Roll: 2/2
Camber: 2.3/1.7
Toe: -0.20/0.00

Brakes (Front/Rear):
Brake Balance: 5/4

Transmission: (STOCK)
Max Speed: 0
1st: 3.610
2nd: 2.360
3rd: 1.690
4th: 1.290
5th: 1.030
6th: -.---
7th: -.---
8th: -.---
Final: 3.560

Differential (Front/Rear):
Initial: 0/0
Accel: 0/0
Braking: 0/0
Torque Split: 0/0

Downforce (Front/Rear): 0/10

Thank you for providing such a wonderful tune to one of my favorite cars in GT6. I'm new to the Gran Turismo franchise, so I didn't know you from your GT5 days, but it sure seems like you had a lot of friends and tuning admirers! 👍 Welcome back... Have you just started with GT6? Or have you been playing GT6 all this time, but just not able to connect online? I only ask because from what I've read here on GTP the physics are quite different between the two games GT5 and GT6. I'd love to hear your opinions on that matter, especially as a tuner.

The main reason I am writing, however, is to ask you about this wonderfully fun Alpine A110 tune. In your opening statement you mention that you're providing two different gearboxes for the tune. One for short-track use and one for longer tracks, I'm assuming to provide a bit more top end. I only see the stock transmission mentioned. I see the word (STOCK) and those ratio's provided match the default 5 speed transmission. Am I missing something? Did you forget to paste the information for the alternative transmission setup?

Thank you, very much... The Alpine A110 should be driven a lot more. To be honest, I didn't paint mine Yellow Pearl. I went with a color called "GT Military 006-W". It's one of those paint chips you win from the Seasonal Events, if I'm remembering correctly. It's a nice, sort of drab, creamy green. I really like putting those old school colors on older cars. Your Yellow Pearl is absolutely gorgeous - I just wanted to be slightly different, in case we ever bump into each other online...

I was VERY apprehensive about putting the Aero Kit A on this car. The Alpine A110 is such a sexy, perfect machine I was worried about diminishing its beauty. In the end, I decided to give it a try and I did apply the Aero Kit which really just removes the two lowest front lights and modifies the front and back bumpers. Of course, I can always revert back if I choose to.

One last thing. I slapped the Driver Numbers on this car. As of now, I'm not completely positive I'll be keeping them on the car. It's too bad we don't have a g-d damn livery editor. While I think it's awesome to slap driver numbers on a car like this to give it a Goodwood Revival type of feel, I'm not exactly blown away by the extremely limited choices we have for "Base", "Typeface" and most importantly size and location of the driver number decals.

Forgive me for the extremely poor quality photo. My hands are about as steady as Muhammad Ali's and I just used my cellphone camera in a pitch dark room. The color of the Alpine A110 in this photo looks nothing like it does on my TV screen. The actual color is much greener, but not too green. I should have just provided a link to THIS thread, but I wanted you to see the color on the car. Oh well...I tried!

So, if you do have that second transmission setup, I'd love to give it a go... 👍

 

[Dragonthing]

I'm assuming you got your wifi back since you accepted my friend request. Shoot me a PM when you wanna play!

I managed to get on but it's gonna take about...30 hours or so to download at the speeds I have all the updates

Thank you for providing such a wonderful tune to one of my favorite cars in GT6. I'm new to the Gran Turismo franchise, so I didn't know you from your GT5 days, but it sure seems like you had a lot of friends and tuning admirers! 👍 Welcome back... Have you just started with GT6? Or have you been playing GT6 all this time, but just not able to connect online? I only ask because from what I've read here on GTP the physics are quite different between the two games GT5 and GT6. I'd love to hear your opinions on that matter, especially as a tuner.

The main reason I am writing, however, is to ask you about this wonderfully fun Alpine A110 tune. In your opening statement you mention that you're providing two different gearboxes for the tune. One for short-track use and one for longer tracks, I'm assuming to provide a bit more top end. I only see the stock transmission mentioned. I see the word (STOCK) and those ratio's provided match the default 5 speed transmission. Am I missing something? Did you forget to paste the information for the alternative transmission setup?

Thank you, very much... The Alpine A110 should be driven a lot more. To be honest, I didn't paint mine Yellow Pearl. I went with a color called "GT Military 006-W". It's one of those paint chips you win from the Seasonal Events, if I'm remembering correctly. It's a nice, sort of drab, creamy green. I really like putting those old school colors on older cars. Your Yellow Pearl is absolutely gorgeous - I just wanted to be slightly different, in case we ever bump into each other online...

I was VERY apprehensive about putting the Aero Kit A on this car. The Alpine A110 is such a sexy, perfect machine I was worried about diminishing its beauty. In the end, I decided to give it a try and I did apply the Aero Kit which really just removes the two lowest front lights and modifies the front and back bumpers. Of course, I can always revert back if I choose to.

One last thing. I slapped the Driver Numbers on this car. As of now, I'm not completely positive I'll be keeping them on the car. It's too bad we don't have a g-d damn livery editor. While I think it's awesome to slap driver numbers on a car like this to give it a Goodwood Revival type of feel, I'm not exactly blown away by the extremely limited choices we have for "Base", "Typeface" and most importantly size and location of the driver number decals.

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Forgive me for the extremely poor quality photo. My hands are about as steady as Muhammad Ali's and I just used my cellphone camera in a pitch dark room. The color of the Alpine A110 in this photo looks nothing like it does on my TV screen. The actual color is much greener, but not too green. I should have just provided a link to THIS thread, but I wanted you to see the color on the car. Oh well...I tried!

So, if you do have that second transmission setup, I'd love to give it a go... 👍

I just realised I done derped. The alternative was supposed to be the "fixed" 5-speed close-ratio box from the tuning parts store. I've been using that a lot on smaller tracks just because it's much easier to switch between the two.

I know how you feel on the aero kits, although I'm generally quite confident that they won't look too bad. At least it isn't like the VW Beetle and it just nicks the bumpers from you, makes the car look naked

...and this is why I need to update my game a bit more, I didn't even know they'd introduced driver numbers for non-race cars! I'm a bit jealous even though they have uglied it up a little teensy bit. I love the colour though...

 

[ALB123]

Oh, thanks for the clarification. Yeah...Being able to add Driver Numbers is kind of cool. You do it in your Garage. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but ONLY premium cars can do this, however, NOT all premium cars can have a driver number. According to GTData.net, 261 cars have a "changeable number". Plus, everybody knows stickers add like 5% more power!!

 

[samisbeast]

I managed to get on but it's gonna take about...30 hours or so to download at the speeds I have all the updates

Yeah I know, the updates are always the worst. I have awfully slow internet as well.

 

[samisbeast]

I moved over the weekend to Nonexistentville, USA.


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[ThePDTX]

Glad you're back @Dragonthing I loved your tunes back in RKM. Too bad RJ and Roj are too busy to return as well.

 

[Dragonthing]

Glad you're back @Dragonthing I loved your tunes back in RKM. Too bad RJ and Roj are too busy to return as well.

It's a massive shame, I miss having the old goof squad from the RKM thread and everything. Hopefully I can get my game on and post as many tunes as I did before! It's tough, trying to get broadband installed before the 19th and also working (when I'm not slacking on GTP) and trying to keep my real cars running...which isn't going so well

 

[ThePDTX]

It's a massive shame, I miss having the old goof squad from the RKM thread and everything. Hopefully I can get my game on and post as many tunes as I did before! It's tough, trying to get broadband installed before the 19th and also working (when I'm not slacking on GTP) and trying to keep my real cars running...which isn't going so well

Can't wait to test your new tunes. Good luck with your irl cars. What do you drive and what's wrong with them?

 

[Dragonthing]

Can't wait to test your new tunes. Good luck with your irl cars. What do you drive and what's wrong with them?

I still own the old Escort GTi 3-door I posted somewhere on GTP last year, but it's sat at the back of the workshop where I work awaiting most of an exhaust system and a lot of electrical work, still not done since it was off the road in...November last year My daily is a Ford Focus diesel which is burning oil almost as fast as it's leaking it over my new coilovers...and also waiting for most of the exhaust system to be replaced with straight stainless awesomeness, like my old 306 had here:

 

[ThePDTX]

I still own the old Escort GTi 3-door I posted somewhere on GTP last year, but it's sat at the back of the workshop where I work awaiting most of an exhaust system and a lot of electrical work, still not done since it was off the road in...November last year My daily is a Ford Focus diesel which is burning oil almost as fast as it's leaking it over my new coilovers...and also waiting for most of the exhaust system to be replaced with straight stainless awesomeness, like my old 306 had here:

That 306 sounds so good. And again, good luck with the cars. :/

 

[samisbeast]

When I said the Diablo GT, I meant the GT2. I just wanted to clear that up. Sorry bout that.

 

[Dragonthing]

Sorry to all for vanishing for a while, I had a few real life issues to sort out. Good news though is that I'm back playing GT6! I'm working on getting a Suzuki Swift '07 tune up today or tomorrow.

Also, for anyone with Twitter, I've made an account so you can keep up with news about the garage, and get sneak preview pics as and when they come! Follow me here: https://twitter.com/DragonthingGTP

 

[ThePDTX]

Sorry to all for vanishing for a while, I had a few real life issues to sort out. Good news though is that I'm back playing GT6! I'm working on getting a Suzuki Swift '07 tune up today or tomorrow.

Also, for anyone with Twitter, I've made an account so you can keep up with news about the garage, and get sneak preview pics as and when they come! Follow me here: https://twitter.com/DragonthingGTP

Welcome back. (Again. ) Followed you on twitter. Can't wait for the Swift tune. 👍

 

[Dragonthing]

Manufacturer: BMW
Model: M3 Coupe '07

Performance Points: 540PP
Horsepower: 435 BHP
Torque: 43.3 kgfm
Drivetrain: FR

Description:Surprisingly enough, I'm not a fan of the M3 really. Mostly because of the endless noobs with maxed out M3s in GT5, none of them capable of handling the car and all of them with horrible sounding exhausts and garish spoilers. This car is none of those things.

The M3 CSL is the opposite of irritating. With a huge amount of weight stripped from it the slightly weedy V8 can now compete and the much improved handling makes easy work of pretty much anything on it's level.

Colour: Matte Black
Body:
Front Aero A
Flat Floor A
Wheels: BBS LM-R +2"

Parts List:
-----------
Sports: Soft Tyres
Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brake Kit

Mechanical LSD

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet

Suspension:
------------
Ride Height: 65/85
Spring Rate: 12.50/8.50
Compression: 4/3
Extension: 3/2
Anti-Roll: 2/2
Camber: 1.2/1.6
Toe: -0.20/0.00

Brakes:
--------------
Brake Balance: 4/6

Differential:
-------------
Initial: 0/7
Acceleration: 0/25
Braking: 0/10

 

[Dragonthing]

Manufacturer: Nissan
Model: Skyline GT-R V·Spec II (R32) '94

Performance Points: 598PP
Horsepower: 606 BHP
Torque: 69.8 kgfm
Drivetrain: 4WD

Description:The R32 is definitely the best looking Skyline. That is all. Also, gotta go fast!

Colour: GT METALLIC 007-W
Body:
Front Aero B
Flat Floor
Spoiler Delete
Wheels:
BBS RS +2"
London Green Pearl

Parts List:
-----------
Sports: Soft Tyres
Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brake Kit

Mechanical LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Torque-Distributing Centre Diff.

Engine Stage 3
Sports ECU
Intake Tuning
Semi-Racing Exhaust
Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet (Body Colour)

Suspension:
------------
Ride Height: 75/75
Spring Rate: 7.50/5.25
Compression: 4/3
Extension: 6/5
Anti-Roll: 4/3
Camber: 1.6/2.0
Toe: -0.25/0.20

Brakes:
--------------
Brake Balance: 3/7

Downforce: 0/20 (Stock)

Differential:
------------
Initial: 5/7
Acceleration: 20/30
Braking: 5/5

Torque Split: 25/75

 

[Dragonthing]

Manufacturer: Hyundai
Model: Click Type-R '04

Performance Points: 435 or 481 PP
Horsepower: 191 or 269 BHP
Torque: 23.3 or 29.5 kgfm
Weight: 830 kg
Drivetrain: FF

Description: It's almost two tunes in one! Here's the best 10,000cr you can spend on a car that doesn't suck as bad as it's appearance may suggest. The Click is actually rather epic.
Superior cornering, awesome sound and cute appearance, how can you lose?

Note: The Close-Ratio gearbox is an option if you choose not to use the Turbo and keep the car NA. It really needs short gears to kick as much butt as possible. If you do choose the Turbo kit, keep the standard 5-speed gearbox, or you'll waste all that snail power spinning the front wheels and you'll very quickly get bored of only being able to do 110mph on straights.

Parts List:
-----------
Sports: Soft Tyres
Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brake Kit

5-Speed Close Ratio 'Box (Optional)
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit

Engine Stage 3
Sports ECU
Intake Tuning
Semi-Racing Exhaust
Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter - Sports
High RPM Turbocharger (Optional)

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet (Body Colour)

Suspension:
------------
Ride Height: 70/70
Spring Rate: 6.00/4.25
Compression: 5/4
Extension: 6/6
Anti-Roll: 4/2
Camber: 1.3/2.0
Toe: -0.20/0.00

Brakes:
--------------
Brake Balance: 3/6

Differential (STOCK):
--------------
Initial: 7/0
Acceleration: 30/0
Braking: 15/0

 

[ThePDTX]

I never know how to start these things. So I'll get right to it. I tested all 3 new tunes, the M3, the R32 and the Click T-R.

Now, I usually factor a car as "good" if it's a good track-car or fun. If it's both then it's amazing. A good track-car is easy to define; grip, speed, stability, etc. A fun car is easily debatable and changes from person to person. To me a fun car is a car with personality. It's not a car for lap times, it doesn't need to be fast. It can be mental and slide all over or even try to kill me if I push it a bit to hard. But as long as it doesn't actually kill me and put's a smile on my face i'll consider it fun. I.e. Murciellago. (That's the simplest I can describe it.) It doesn't mean that race-like cars are no fun. Being able to make the perfect lap is fun in it's own way, but it doesn't leave you laughing like a maniac alone in your living room. Am I making any sense?

So right out of the bat i'll say that none of these 3 cars are "fun", not in that way. What they are, on the other hand, are brutal, street-legal "race" cars. No joke. If you're looking for Hot lap style tunes for these cars, these are the best ones you'll find (And probably the most affordable.).

I started with the M3, but I'll leave it for last. So, the R32. How is it? Well, it's definitely fast. That thing will go from 0-200 (Km/h) in no time. It also feels very light, which is also a refreshing thing in any Skyline. So it came to my surprise when it wasn't as nimble as it felt. The only problem that I had with it was the the considerable understeer. It's not terrible and not a deal breaker, but is very noticeable. Especially in chicanes or tight corners with high speed exits. It's only the fact that it feels more agile that it is, so you kind of get caught by surprise. But once you get used to it you can work around the understeer, although you'll always feel that you could be faster in those tight corners. Another little thing is that it jerks a little while braking. If you brake a bit too hard it will get a bit unstable, but nothing major.

The little Click, what to say. It's a small, light, FF car. And I'm a sucker for those. Not really too much to point out here. Sapphire did an amazing job with this one. I used the High rpm Turbo version with the standard gearbox. The car as little to no understeer, and you can push it as hard as you can. You have to drive like a mad-man to get those SS tires to red. Only thing I noticed was that 5th gear was almost useless in big straights. For the 480PP category this one is at the top of the food-chain. It probably isn't the best 480PP out there, but you'll have a hard time finding something better and as affordable as this.

Now...the M3. ... I, I don't even know how to say this in a way that you don't call me a liar. First off, the engine is stock, but if you think that that's going to hinder your lap times you are so, soooo wrong. I kid you not, this monster of a car handles like a Formula 2. Not joking. I took it to various tracks, but to give you an idea, this M3 at Spa does the eau rouge flat. Literately flat. In 5th with the gas pedal all the way down. At first you'll want to lift, but don't. You just need to turn hard at the right time. All around the track it just finds grip were it shouldn't. It blew my mind. And it's so stable. I understand that it's running in SS but it feels like RM tires. All the praise that the standard M3 gets from fans (and BMW itself) is what this car is. The M3 is a bit over-hyped, but with this setup, it really isn't. This is how the car should have come from factory.
By far my favorite out of the 3.
Many thanks to Sapphire for all her amazing work.

 

[Dragonthing]

I never know how to start these things. So I'll get right to it. I tested all 3 new tunes, the M3, the R32 and the Click T-R.

-snip-

Many thanks to Sapphire for all her amazing work.

I'm really glad you enjoyed them as much as I did tuning them! I hear you on the Skyline, the understeer is the result of my dislike for 4WD cars with big power. I try to set them for more rear drive bias to offset the huge understeer out of corners, but...I prefer stability with understeer everywhere else go figure... I shall keep working on it and update it if I can tweak the handling!

The Click really amazed me by just how stable and quick it is through corners, and it's a shame nobody buys it because "oh Korean hatchback...yawn." Hopefully I'll get more people to buy it now...

And yeah, the M3...how did you guess I did the bulk of my tuning at Spa? I found it perfect for the Tour of Europe races and I must've done Spa 20 times in it. The only car that presents any kind of challenge is the proper M3 CSL so I had to take that philosophy and apply it to the somewhat lumpy '07 model. Looks like I done good

Thanks very much! The most rewarding part of tuning is hearing a great response, especially one that points out any improvements I'll get the Skyline out again...

 

[ThePDTX]

I'm really glad you enjoyed them as much as I did tuning them! I hear you on the Skyline, the understeer is the result of my dislike for 4WD cars with big power. I try to set them for more rear drive bias to offset the huge understeer out of corners, but...I prefer stability with understeer everywhere else go figure... I shall keep working on it and update it if I can tweak the handling!

The Click really amazed me by just how stable and quick it is through corners, and it's a shame nobody buys it because "oh Korean hatchback...yawn." Hopefully I'll get more people to buy it now...

And yeah, the M3...how did you guess I did the bulk of my tuning at Spa? I found it perfect for the Tour of Europe races and I must've done Spa 20 times in it. The only car that presents any kind of challenge is the proper M3 CSL so I had to take that philosophy and apply it to the somewhat lumpy '07 model. Looks like I done good

Thanks very much! The most rewarding part of tuning is hearing a great response, especially one that points out any improvements I'll get the Skyline out again...

Glad I could help with the reviews. You mentioned "I try to set them for more rear drive bias (...)" and in the tune you told us to buy the Torque-Distributing Centre Diff, but there were no values to change. Did you forget, or is it supposed to be left stock?

 

[Dragonthing]

Glad I could help with the reviews. You mentioned "I try to set them for more rear drive bias (...)" and in the tune you told us to buy the Torque-Distributing Centre Diff, but there were no values to change. Did you forget, or is it supposed to be left stock?

That'll teach me for not making my template properly, won't it? I have it set for 25/75 and I shall update that in the tune itself right away!

EDIT: Tune post now features the torque split...as well as the diff settings

 

[ThePDTX]

That'll teach me for not making my template properly, won't it? I have it set for 25/75 and I shall update that in the tune itself right away!

I'll jump on GT6 real quick and give it another go at it. See if it improves the understeer problem.

 

[Dragonthing]

I'll jump on GT6 real quick and give it another go at it. See if it improves the understeer problem.

I think it'll have an effect, for sure. I know it tends to drift slightly with heavy braking and I use that to get through corners faster