DS3= Noob Drifting?

i honestly diddnt pay no mind to it ( bec i always like all the assist off ) mines is at 0 and im an average drifter .... 2 weeks into it im an intermediate (at least):banghead:
 
How would a controller user be less nerdy? Both someone on a wheel and someone on a DS3 are playing the same video game, but one is playing it in a more realistic way.

More realistic, but harder imo. Go compare those people on 900 degree wheels with my 200 degree one. now imagine, you have even less angle to countersteer with, cause its (nearly) either full countersteer or straight wheels. I think its harder to keep soem drifts going on a DS3 than on a wheel.
(opinion)
 
I guarantee theres a way, its just simple electricity, complete the circuit; sends the control signal to the playstation.

There is a circuit board button diagram of the DFGT in the Steering Wheels & Racing Cockpits section of GTP. This was originally wired by GTP member tehluckinator, I've since moved the connection from "O" button to the "L3" button and remapped the e-brake to L3.

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Or set your e-brake to the paddles and buy these paddles from GranTurgismo.com

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This thread is so counter productive...

Its like... lets supose that from 100% of the GT5 players, 30% enjoys to drift and from these 30% only a tiny percent are interested to use wheels for drifting. So if we rid off all non wheel users, how many players would left in the game? And plus, how many of these wheel drifters would be able to drift properly?

I know its harder to drift using wheels, the learning curve is much harder and the final result is more beauty and efficient, but force people to follow a pattern is so pointless, IMO. There are a lot of more important things to care about in the game than policy how they are playing.

Oh, and just for note.
I do use gamepads, and I USE D-BUTTONS INSTEAD ANALOG. Sorry for the caps, but i had to make it clear to tell u something. Yesterday i was trying to setup my Caterham Fireblade for drifting, and while drifting in the hood camera i realized a scaring and unbelieveble thing: The front wheels was self-correcting the angles by itself! Then i had to come back to the driving options and check if there was no helper turned on, but no, everything was off.

The point is... people blame by the lack of accuracy of DS3 compared to the smoothness of the racing wheels... but i wish that everyone knew that the game is doing the hard job of correct the front wheels turning whyle we all are felling pro drifters able to start a carreer at D1 GP. If you wheel drifters like to bully regular players with their DS3, you should get real and quit GT5... because R-Factor - Oversters Mod is waiting for you and there you will meet people that will make you feel like a 3 years old drifter.



And thats are my 2 cents...
 
I think the other side is also ;DFGT drifter = noob. How many pro drifters use three turns lock to lock? None. It would be useless. The pro drifters in real life have wheels with TINY amounts of travel, so they can flick between all their cars steering travel really really fast to control the drift. That is why its so easy to control a drift with a ds3 ove a dfgt wheel, because a pad is closer to the reality than that particular wheel.
I have two wheels, a dfgt for circuit racing and an ancient logitech df ex for drifting i got to play gt4 with.
 
Tweetman_277
I think the other side is also ;DFGT drifter = noob. How many pro drifters use three turns lock to lock? None. It would be useless. The pro drifters in real life have wheels with TINY amounts of travel, so they can flick between all their cars steering travel really really fast to control the drift. That is why its so easy to control a drift with a ds3 ove a dfgt wheel, because a pad is closer to the reality than that particular wheel.
I have two wheels, a dfgt for circuit racing and an ancient logitech df ex for drifting i got to play gt4 with.

You are totaly wrong!
Formula d and d1gp drifters have about 900* steering. Its not possible to have 200* steering. You obviously havnt ripped a car. And also they nearly have to have big steering angle because its way more accurate.
Im not hating on you, im just saying you are totaly wrong.
Edit; look at this video. its orido's supra. and its a little more than 900 degrees steering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFLbq-GfoSY
 
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This thread is so counter productive...

Its like... lets supose that from 100% of the GT5 players, 30% enjoys to drift and from these 30% only a tiny percent are interested to use wheels for drifting. So if we rid off all non wheel users, how many players would left in the game? And plus, how many of these wheel drifters would be able to drift properly?

I know its harder to drift using wheels, the learning curve is much harder and the final result is more beauty and efficient, but force people to follow a pattern is so pointless, IMO. There are a lot of more important things to care about in the game than policy how they are playing.

Oh, and just for note.
I do use gamepads, and I USE D-BUTTONS INSTEAD ANALOG. Sorry for the caps, but i had to make it clear to tell u something. Yesterday i was trying to setup my Caterham Fireblade for drifting, and while drifting in the hood camera i realized a scaring and unbelieveble thing: The front wheels was self-correcting the angles by itself! Then i had to come back to the driving options and check if there was no helper turned on, but no, everything was off.

The point is... people blame by the lack of accuracy of DS3 compared to the smoothness of the racing wheels... but i wish that everyone knew that the game is doing the hard job of correct the front wheels turning whyle we all are felling pro drifters able to start a carreer at D1 GP. If you wheel drifters like to bully regular players with their DS3, you should get real and quit GT5... because R-Factor - Oversters Mod is waiting for you and there you will meet people that will make you feel like a 3 years old drifter.


And thats are my 2 cents...


whassup liquid.. Im on gt5 &I think it can help you on understanding the physics of a car even in real life.. but the furthest you can go with gt5 is to get an idea on how to drift your mum's volvo!&you wont even do it properly hahaha

Now I ddnt understand what you meant.. did you say that the game was kinda correcting steering for you while using a wheel or ds3??

& Last thing, I dont think that drifting with a wheel is harder, I think its DIFFERENT..It all comes with xperience!! & maybe if you manage to drift with a wheel you'll have a better idea when it comes to reality but I dont know that I aint got one :(

btw on rFactor I loved how the on-board camera was turning to the side while drifting

gt5 gotta feature that (on hood cam too but with an on-off choice under options)
 
Powellx235
You are totaly wrong!
Formula d and d1gp drifters have about 900* steering. Its not possible to have 200* steering. You obviously havnt ripped a car. And also they nearly have to have big steering angle because its way more accurate.
Im not hating on you, im just saying you are totaly wrong.
Edit; look at this video. its orido's supra. and its a little more than 900 degrees steering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFLbq-GfoSY

I really thought it was small steering angles... just from all the stuff ive seen, no hands come off wheels, but tyres get huge amounts of lock... i stand corrected. Lol
 
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I really thought it was small steering angles... just from all the stuff ive seen, no hands come off wheels, but tyres get huge amounts of lock... i stand corrected. Lol

Yeah, we all make mistakes. And sorry if i came on a little strong, just trying to get my point through. :)
 
I think the other side is also ;DFGT drifter = noob. How many pro drifters use three turns lock to lock? None. It would be useless. The pro drifters in real life have wheels with TINY amounts of travel, so they can flick between all their cars steering travel really really fast to control the drift. That is why its so easy to control a drift with a ds3 ove a dfgt wheel, because a pad is closer to the reality than that particular wheel.
I have two wheels, a dfgt for circuit racing and an ancient logitech df ex for drifting i got to play gt4 with.

I would have to disagree with a DS3 being more realistic. The last time I checked, there arent any D1 drivers who drift their car with a DS3 while chilling in their racing seat.
 
Great, just what we needed, another "I play Gt5 a certain way, whoever doesn't play the same way is a noob" thread..

I don't get it, is it the fluoridated water, aspartame or lack of pussy perhaps?
 
It's all about making do w/ what you have..if not having a wheel is a money issue then I have no qualms because you simply cannot acquire/justify purchasing a wheel...but to claim to be skilled at drifting, or rather as skilled as a proficient wheel user is as wrong as saying a Street Fighter Alpha champion would've stood a chance against Bruce Lee. I have admiration for the DS3 users of gt5 to be able to even perform a drift, as I haven't been able to do so since gt3..but even the most skilled DS3 users are in no way utilizing the same skillset necessary to drift a car given its universally accepted control device: a steering wheel...think of it this way: our fingers are basically wired to be the most tactile manipulative tools we have, and DS3 users have them at the ready to just about every analog control at all times. I really wish mythbusters or somebody would find a way to wire up a DS3 to cars w/ the same input values as gt5 and attack world records at tracks worldwide..when the records for tsukuba, pikes peak, and the 'ring fall within days to some 12yr old kid from Central Iowa are we to crown him the most skilled racer ever?..when kumakubo is out-tandemed by some dude whose claim to fame is a lot of really subtle thumb movement should he D1GP champ? Fingers and thumbs aren't subject to feedback either, which overcoming that is also an inherent skill to drifting...my solution? A repackaged edition of gt5 or the upcoming gt6 should packaged w/ a dfgt..I would've paid a bit more for that....
 
Well, drifting in game with a wheel and then going out and trying to do it in your parents car doesnt necessarily translate as well as going from drifting well in real life, to drifting in the game.

So if you think about it like that, no matter what they use to drift in the game, people who cant drift well in "actual reality" are noobs.

If you can drift, AWESOME, but dont become a DB "because" you can drift.
 
It's all about making do w/ what you have..if not having a wheel is a money issue then I have no qualms because you simply cannot acquire/justify purchasing a wheel...but to claim to be skilled at drifting, or rather as skilled as a proficient wheel user is as wrong as saying a Street Fighter Alpha champion would've stood a chance against Bruce Lee.

Would be nice to see Daigo vs Bruce Lee :lol: Though comparing a fighting game with real life fighting is somewhat wrong. It would be more like if you had the move rifle for the PS3 and a real rife in IRL.
 
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Would be nice to see Daigo vs Bruce Lee :lol: Though comparing a fighting game with real life fighting is somewhat wrong. It would be more like if you had the move rifle for the PS3 and a real rife in IRL.

True..I wonder if stepmania players have this same argument, the "steppers" vs. The "buttoners" :lol:
 
maybe ds3 is not as good as wheel, but pc users are drifting with keyboard. imo this is noob drifting :lol:

And to the professionals who drift with $100K+ drift cars, we are all noobs. :dopey:

To me, a noob is someone who is new to a game and isn't good. Not someone who uses an easy and less expensive way to play a game. I've been playing GT since I was 7, and there is no way I'd consider myself a noob just because I don't use a wheel.

If I wanted to drift or race with a wheel, I'd rather it be in a real car. I like the realism and the awesome physics. :sly:
 
ds3 works very very well they've done a great job turning buttons ( I use dpad when not on g25) into steering inputs the only problem is difficulty with accurate steering at high speed when trying to apply small amounts of counter steer. still a hell of a lot of fun sat on my arse in front room (g25 goes upstairs on a desk)
 
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