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Emergency Update Incoming NOT 1.07
- Thread starter ghostrider135
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- dawko-san
So I just tried the new update and the tire model is better once again! It's now easier (and more realistic) to catch a slide, just like in real life. For those wondering how should I know I've got a '97 Corvette. It was way harder than it is, until now.
Thanks PD, good job.
Edit: TC now also feels much more realistic.
Thanks PD, good job.
Edit: TC now also feels much more realistic.
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- HYUGARIKUDO
My DR went from a mid D to a mid C with the update. After a long session today I‘m now at a low B. Not bad taking into account that until now it had feld like I wouldn’t get out of D for months.
I have no knowledge of how to change the differential or any other of the possible modifications. Can someone point me toward a video series and/or thread where this kind of stuff is explained in a way that someone who enjoys driving a lot, but has no idea about mechanics, can understand? Would appreciate it!
I have no knowledge of how to change the differential or any other of the possible modifications. Can someone point me toward a video series and/or thread where this kind of stuff is explained in a way that someone who enjoys driving a lot, but has no idea about mechanics, can understand? Would appreciate it!
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- englishbobsnr
To quote
Firstly it has adjusted the scheduling for the Daily Races. These are now as follows:
・Daily Race A: Hosted every 15 minutes, 3 races per hour.
・Daily Race B: Hosted every 15 minutes, 3 races per hour.
・Daily Race C: Hosted every 25 minutes, 2 races per hour.
I feel like I'm being trolled by basic mathematics here.
Firstly it has adjusted the scheduling for the Daily Races. These are now as follows:
・Daily Race A: Hosted every 15 minutes, 3 races per hour.
・Daily Race B: Hosted every 15 minutes, 3 races per hour.
・Daily Race C: Hosted every 25 minutes, 2 races per hour.
I feel like I'm being trolled by basic mathematics here.
qwbufp
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- qwbufp
Poor translation! Shoud be: Event duration: 25 minutes, 2 races per hour.
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- Outspacer
Yep. No idea how that works! Maybe they mean 'Duration' rather than 'Hosted every'... but then that would be the same as before (Hosted every 20 / 20 / 30 minutes, which they changed to recently).
Doing the Gr4 Interlagos race the other night, I was able to dawdle a bit in the finish screens, save replay etc, then get into the next race with just a few minutes to spare. Take 5 minutes away and I might've had to wait for the race after, so that would annoy me.
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Glad it’s not just me. I spent a couple of hours the other night getting top ten times on all of the nurburgring circuit experience sectors for a video I’m making, log in today to see I’ve lost them all and my old times are there.
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This is really annoying because the pre 1.06 patch times that have re appeared are now getting obliterated. So why remove the post 1.06 times when they are similar (maybe even somewhat slower) than since the latest update? Why not merge the two? Having hours of hard work taken away really sucks!!!
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- Spongeinside
It takes a damn long time for a ‘just some fixes’ update... I’m guessing there’s more to it...?
KingFrog
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Except that's not accurate at all and this update did not " increase grip". Road cars on day one had too little grip ( cars were losing traction at 60 mph on turns, yeah no) and the controller countersteering was seriously messed up.
99% of people never push the car to the limits, even in a video game. Pushing cars to their limits = fastest lap speeds. Sure many people push a car beyond its limits and wreck, but truly straddling the line is a thing few people have EVER done consistently.
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- TheLadiesMan
So I've done the Gr3 Suzuka daily three times now. Thought I'd post some basic observations. I wouldn't consider this a good comparison test or anything, because it's my personal experience and how I drive.
Race 1: Qualified for this, time just out of the top 10. Finished 1st but it wasn't easy. I'm using the Mclaren. I would say that forward grip has increased? It feels a bit more stable getting on the throttle. Previously (when I was mostly driving the Ferrari Gr3, which was very unstable), I was using TCS2 and Counter Assist Strong to keep it on track. Driving with this update though, I was able to set this time and complete this race with TCS Off.
Race 2: This time, I tried running TCS Off but Counter Assist Weak. This was kind of a disaster. My qualifying time put me on pole but it only took a couple laps for me to lose it. I just could not keep this car under control. Two reasons here: #1 The "Weak" setting completely screwed me. The steering behaved very differently (even during normal steering, turn in, and not when it was kicking on) which threw me off. I would enter the fast first turn and suddenly the force feedback on my wheel would do a quick twitch and I went sailing off. Reason #2 The real issue I have with these Gr3 cars is the low speed, off throttle, lateral grip. The rear end just wants to swing loose mid corner, all the time, on stuff like the Interlagos tight corners or the slow tight corner on Suzuka. I'm not sure what the issue is but it doesn't seem right to me. These cars are on massive slicks, a wide wheel base, and slow corners. Why is the rear sliding out while coasting around a corner? Anyway, this race went to crap. I kept going off track over and over which eventually made me quit mid race. I don't think I've ever done that before lol
Race 3: I immediately jumped into queue again and did a few mins of qualifying. This time, I set TCS1 and Counter Assist Strong. The very first lap I put in was fast, the steering behaved the way I expected, and TCS1 didn't seem to inhibit my performance, but just gave me a little more confidence on exit to get on the throttle. I scrubbed another .500 off my qualifying time. My new time put me in 3rd on start but ended up winning this race as well, again not easy as people were chasing me down.
So that's it really. This update hasn't effected me much I guess. The problem I have with Gr3 cars is how unstable they are on entry/mid corner which seems to still exist. If anything, I thought the forward grip was fine before, and they instead need to add a little more lateral stability. I suspect this update would help the 458 Gr3 more so than this 650s. And thus, Counter Assist Strong is a must have for me on these Gr3 cars which cancels most of the issues on corner entry and low speed stuff. It feels like the physics change that happened on Gr4, should've happened on Gr3. And Gr4 should've been left as it was before the 1.06 patch.
Race 1: Qualified for this, time just out of the top 10. Finished 1st but it wasn't easy. I'm using the Mclaren. I would say that forward grip has increased? It feels a bit more stable getting on the throttle. Previously (when I was mostly driving the Ferrari Gr3, which was very unstable), I was using TCS2 and Counter Assist Strong to keep it on track. Driving with this update though, I was able to set this time and complete this race with TCS Off.
Race 2: This time, I tried running TCS Off but Counter Assist Weak. This was kind of a disaster. My qualifying time put me on pole but it only took a couple laps for me to lose it. I just could not keep this car under control. Two reasons here: #1 The "Weak" setting completely screwed me. The steering behaved very differently (even during normal steering, turn in, and not when it was kicking on) which threw me off. I would enter the fast first turn and suddenly the force feedback on my wheel would do a quick twitch and I went sailing off. Reason #2 The real issue I have with these Gr3 cars is the low speed, off throttle, lateral grip. The rear end just wants to swing loose mid corner, all the time, on stuff like the Interlagos tight corners or the slow tight corner on Suzuka. I'm not sure what the issue is but it doesn't seem right to me. These cars are on massive slicks, a wide wheel base, and slow corners. Why is the rear sliding out while coasting around a corner? Anyway, this race went to crap. I kept going off track over and over which eventually made me quit mid race. I don't think I've ever done that before lol
Race 3: I immediately jumped into queue again and did a few mins of qualifying. This time, I set TCS1 and Counter Assist Strong. The very first lap I put in was fast, the steering behaved the way I expected, and TCS1 didn't seem to inhibit my performance, but just gave me a little more confidence on exit to get on the throttle. I scrubbed another .500 off my qualifying time. My new time put me in 3rd on start but ended up winning this race as well, again not easy as people were chasing me down.
So that's it really. This update hasn't effected me much I guess. The problem I have with Gr3 cars is how unstable they are on entry/mid corner which seems to still exist. If anything, I thought the forward grip was fine before, and they instead need to add a little more lateral stability. I suspect this update would help the 458 Gr3 more so than this 650s. And thus, Counter Assist Strong is a must have for me on these Gr3 cars which cancels most of the issues on corner entry and low speed stuff. It feels like the physics change that happened on Gr4, should've happened on Gr3. And Gr4 should've been left as it was before the 1.06 patch.
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I was racing a 10 lap race on Suzuka Full Circuit with a tuned Genesis Coupe Street Ver against gr.4 where i met that yellow devil the Megane.
I was on it's tail at the last few laps where my car was sliding all over the place just to keep the pressure on that Megane.
Every time i approach it like a mad man the CPU or AI just decides to say ( F your without-assists-driving-skills i'll go faster because you're annoying me ) that went long enough that me & it had left the other cars behind us for a hilarious length of about 10 seconds LOL
Everytime i approach - he just keeps going faster like half a second - then 2 seconds - then i close the distance at braking points or top speeds - then when we cut the turns - it just goes faster & i went crazy behind that Megane that my tires are begging for mercy - i was all over the place behind him & he still keeps going away - until i went berserk at the last corner - i made a shortcut to overtake it because i had enough of this unfairness then i blocked it's path to win unfairly which i wasn't proud for
Now i know why it was unfairly fast after reading this thread X)
I was on it's tail at the last few laps where my car was sliding all over the place just to keep the pressure on that Megane.
Every time i approach it like a mad man the CPU or AI just decides to say ( F your without-assists-driving-skills i'll go faster because you're annoying me ) that went long enough that me & it had left the other cars behind us for a hilarious length of about 10 seconds LOL
Everytime i approach - he just keeps going faster like half a second - then 2 seconds - then i close the distance at braking points or top speeds - then when we cut the turns - it just goes faster & i went crazy behind that Megane that my tires are begging for mercy - i was all over the place behind him & he still keeps going away - until i went berserk at the last corner - i made a shortcut to overtake it because i had enough of this unfairness then i blocked it's path to win unfairly which i wasn't proud for
Now i know why it was unfairly fast after reading this thread X)
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- GTP_MadMax
Yes , happened to my times too.
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still works with 1.07
qwbufp
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My impressions.
I have tested some group 3 around suzuka today and in my opinion the throttle control out corner issue is fixed now.
It is doable for a medium skilled driver to modulate the power even in dunlop curve , where it was easy to spin due to the depression out corner taking out the rear grip.Just need precision in your wheel input and it is ok.
I just use counter steer assistance with gokart, i think it don´t help at all on GR3 or GR4 cars, just give you bad habits. Just my opinion.
It seems that the auto clutch don´t react the same way as before, this was the center of the problem still in my opinion, you can´t perform a standing start in 4th speed anymore, if the torque is not enough , you will not launch. On the grass too, if you accelerate too much, yours wheels will just spin, not engaging desengaging the clutch to find grip like it was pre 1.06.
LSD acceleration is working again, it is possible now to find the sweet point to let the car more manageable at corner exit.
Suzuka sport mode race today was with gas 1X and tire waste 3x if i remember for 10 laps.
For the gasoline half tank is gone , that is ok.
For the tires , even after 8 laps the waste was still lower than 10%. This is not a problem, but i have felt a serious and quick lost of overall grip with only this 90% staying. This have to be fixed in my opinion. In others game including GT5 and 6 , tires grip was beginning to deteriorate gradually after the half only , it was more progressive and you could use the full grip during the first half of the tires at least. It seems closer to the reality to me.
I have tested some group 3 around suzuka today and in my opinion the throttle control out corner issue is fixed now.
It is doable for a medium skilled driver to modulate the power even in dunlop curve , where it was easy to spin due to the depression out corner taking out the rear grip.Just need precision in your wheel input and it is ok.
I just use counter steer assistance with gokart, i think it don´t help at all on GR3 or GR4 cars, just give you bad habits. Just my opinion.
It seems that the auto clutch don´t react the same way as before, this was the center of the problem still in my opinion, you can´t perform a standing start in 4th speed anymore, if the torque is not enough , you will not launch. On the grass too, if you accelerate too much, yours wheels will just spin, not engaging desengaging the clutch to find grip like it was pre 1.06.
LSD acceleration is working again, it is possible now to find the sweet point to let the car more manageable at corner exit.
Suzuka sport mode race today was with gas 1X and tire waste 3x if i remember for 10 laps.
For the gasoline half tank is gone , that is ok.
For the tires , even after 8 laps the waste was still lower than 10%. This is not a problem, but i have felt a serious and quick lost of overall grip with only this 90% staying. This have to be fixed in my opinion. In others game including GT5 and 6 , tires grip was beginning to deteriorate gradually after the half only , it was more progressive and you could use the full grip during the first half of the tires at least. It seems closer to the reality to me.
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AMPMROCKETFANN
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'97 Corvette? How did you get one of those?
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Exactly. When we first played the full release game before any updates, cars would lose traction under many conditions. The TCS model is totally new. Since I have a wheel now, I find it way easier to control the throttle. I can take off on corner exits using judicious amounts of throttle & all is fine...
Lastly, on the AWD cars, case in point the Nissan GRP. 4.. At least if you can't tune that queen of understeer (BOP races) put some logical default tunes in there.. + the Audi TT is running & hiding from all other cars on the straights!
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- andrewhake
Have fun in your empty lobby!
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- dawko-san
Had a friend import it from Foorida.
KungFury
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Was the Aston Martin One-77 always this horrible to drive? Whenever I approach the last corner at Brands Hatch, it throws traction to the wind and skates across the asphalt. Did 1.07 have something to do with it?
My theory is that your opponent could've had a slight connectivity issue that corrected itself within a few seconds.
My theory is that your opponent could've had a slight connectivity issue that corrected itself within a few seconds.
