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I just did the Grand Valley 300km in a RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 (JGTC) 2004. It ended up being an extremely close race. Other than the Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R, the rest of the field was well behind in the race.

Modifications to car:
  • R1 Tyres
  • Oil Change
  • I also used this Setup

I raced against this lineup (listed in finishing order):
  1. RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 (JGTC) 2004 - 1:58'19.970
  2. Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R (JGTC) 2003 - +0.659s
  3. Honda Takata Dome NSX JGTC '03 - On lead lap
  4. Mercedes CLK Touring Car '00 - On lead lap
  5. Honda Mobil 1 NSX JGTC '01 - On lead lap
  6. Audi A4 Touring Car '04 - On lead lap
 
I just did Laguna Seca in a GSX- R/4 for 200p, no power mods, about 186bhp I think, R3 tyres lasted about 20/21 laps, had NOS installed but was not needed. Raced against this lineup and they finished in this order:

Ford GT 05
Saleen S7 02
Shelby Series 1 Super Charged 03
Chevrolet Camaro SS 00
Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe 04

Probably the easiest 200 Endurance race I have had, won by over 4 laps.
 
Did Suzuka 1000KM yesterday for 200pts in a Suzuki GSX R/4, all power mods and R2 tyres, very easy race and finished about 5 laps in front, can't remember exact MOV but it was either 4 or 5. Also on lap 16 I paused the game, went to get a coffee and when I came back the game had unpaused itself and I was nearly 3 laps behind. Took me 40 laps to regain the lead, but still won an easy race.:)
 
I am now going to curl up in to a little ball and cry. The Roadster 4 hour for me, I think, Is going to be impossible.
I suck on Tsukuba, being that Hyundai and Suzi Concepts were HARD.

I have tried both, the Used Mazda MX5 J limited (NA,J) 91 @108bhp, and the Mazda MX-5 1600 NR-A '04 @114bhp

Either way, Either car, I can not get good consistant lap times.

If I choose to stay out on N1 untill the first stop I will get passed by the RS about 2-3 laps before pit (because the tyres just dont get me around the corners) and I'm having to block just about the entire field all the time.

If I choose to come in on lap 1 and put N3's on, by the time lap 38 odd comes around I am anywhere between 6th and 2nd and still 3 seconds off, and NO nos left.

I am also unable to do the race for 177 points with no ballast. This is sooooo frustrating being It's the last for 200.

I have read all posts regarding this race and I am still stuck in the mud. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Being that over the last weekend, I had restarted this race approx. 30 times. I may have to resign to the fact that I am unable to do this flipping stupid race. :grumpy::grumpy::grumpy::grumpy:
 
I'm really sorry to hear that. 👎 I haven't tried this race but I might have a suggestion. Ram the 1800RS immediately (duh) and then hold back in 5th place behind the pack and ahead of him, ramming him every time he gets to your bumper, keeping the N1s until your first pit. Then he will hopefully be held up enough by the ramming and the pack ahead of him that you can both stay ahead of him and get in the lead while on the N3s. Now this is probably a really stupid idea :dunce:, but everything else that could be of use seems to already have been posted.

Good luck beating this awful race and becoming the next one to reach max! :cheers:
 
Roadster 4hour question.

(Thanks to AMG for the track map, sorry i modified it :)).

My question is in regards to the T2 :sly:shortcut. Am I correct in assuming what i have done to the map is the cut we all talk about. Or is there somewhere I am not seeing.

Thanks to anyone who responds.
 

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Roadster 4hour question... Am I correct in assuming what i have done to the map is the cut we all talk about...

Yep that's the shortcut we talk about. The cut can be a blessing for a bit of a breather, but beware it is also slippery.

I really do hope you get this race nailed!
Good luck.

AMG.
 
Yep that's the shortcut we talk about. The cut can be a blessing for a bit of a breather, but beware it is also slippery.

I really do hope you get this race nailed!
Good luck.

AMG.

Cheers for that AMG. I have tried it a couple of times and I have to try extremly hard not to hit the end of that blasted wall :ouch: when i have the lead on N1's :ouch:. Currently taking a bit of a break (spending "quality" time with the miss'es). But hopefully will be trying again very shortly.
 
Not sure if it'll help or not, but I've just done the Roadster 4h Endurance in a brand new unmodified Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A '04 starting on N1/N3 tyres (switching to N3/N3 after 1 lap) and racing cleanly (no ramming or shortcutting) to win by 2 laps. Granted it was only worth 147 A-spec points, and I'm not sure how many points the ballast tags on, or the effect on laptimes, but this wasn't too difficult since the 1800 RS isn't present. I'm wondering if there's a possibility that a worn out and fully ballasted 1600 NR-A would yield 200 points for this race, as I believe it may be the easiest way to go for Open Addict who is struggling with this one.

Full race report, pit info, laptime data, etc. is here 👍
 
I'm almost certain that the 1800 must be present to get 200 points in the 1600 NR-A. I think, looking at bttlefed's post a ways back, that a fully worn one of these needs 166 ballast to earn 200 against the strongest lineup, which of course includes the 1800.

What I've been wondering, though, is whether a used and fully ballasted '89 model can get 200 vs. a lineup with no other '89 and no 1800RS. That seems to be like a good thing to try, but it seems like it would have been attempted earlier with no success if no one has mentioned it before.
 
Not sure if it'll help or not, but I've just done the Roadster 4h Endurance in a brand new unmodified Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A '04 starting on N1/N3 tyres (switching to N3/N3 after 1 lap) and racing cleanly (no ramming or shortcutting) to win by 2 laps. Granted it was only worth 147 A-spec points, and I'm not sure how many points the ballast tags on, or the effect on laptimes, but this wasn't too difficult since the 1800 RS isn't present. I'm wondering if there's a possibility that a worn out and fully ballasted 1600 NR-A would yield 200 points for this race, as I believe it may be the easiest way to go for Open Addict who is struggling with this one.

Full race report, pit info, laptime data, etc. is here 👍

I'm almost certain that the 1800 must be present to get 200 points in the 1600 NR-A. I think, looking at bttlefed's post a ways back, that a fully worn one of these needs 166 ballast to earn 200 against the strongest lineup, which of course includes the 1800.

What I've been wondering, though, is whether a used and fully ballasted '89 model can get 200 vs. a lineup with no other '89 and no 1800RS. That seems to be like a good thing to try, but it seems like it would have been attempted earlier with no success if no one has mentioned it before.

Nice write-up on the roadster there Smallhorses. I may have to for now, (because I am going around the bend not being able to do it) find that line-up with my run down 1600 NR-A or my second hand '89 that I have in the garage and see what I can get. If I can get 180+ points for this I would be content for the moment. As this would also give me great practice.

I can, kind of, hold my own against the rest of the field but that RS is a pain.

I will check this out tonight (if the wife lets me) and let you guys know how I do. Although I feel what Austin343 says is right, I might need to have that blasted RS in the line-up :grumpy:
 
As I recall, it's only somewhere between 5 - 10 lineups in from a console reset. However, I'm on NTSC whereas you're PAL.
Let me know if you come up with any info regarding the '04 NR-A or the regular '89 versus this lineup with full ballast & N1 tyres as I'm very much hoping to go back for more points later, although I'm vehemently opposed to NOS consumption, so I'd like to know if there's a possible 200-pointer here that I could complete without it! I'm sure that even being able to fiddle with the transmission & suspension settings would make a difference, but I've not even equipped any of my Miatas with anything other than tyres yet....
 
As I recall, it's only somewhere between 5 - 10 lineups in from a console reset. However, I'm on NTSC whereas you're PAL.
Let me know if you come up with any info regarding the '04 NR-A or the regular '89 versus this lineup with full ballast & N1 tyres as I'm very much hoping to go back for more points later, although I'm vehemently opposed to NOS consumption, so I'd like to know if there's a possible 200-pointer here that I could complete without it! I'm sure that even being able to fiddle with the transmission & suspension settings would make a difference, but I've not even equipped any of my Miatas with anything other than tyres yet....

Tried last night with the regular '89. The line-up was approx 8th after console reset. Unfortunately with max ballast and only 108bhp Points offered were 195 :grumpy:.
(If only I could drop the BHP to 105)

Looks like to get max you definatley need the RS1800 in the field. This is going to be the bane of may existance. :grumpy::grumpy::grumpy:
 
Not sure if it'll help or not, but I've just done the Roadster 4h Endurance in a brand new unmodified Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A '04 starting on N1/N3 tyres (switching to N3/N3 after 1 lap) and racing cleanly (no ramming or shortcutting) to win by 2 laps. Granted it was only worth 147 A-spec points, and I'm not sure how many points the ballast tags on, or the effect on laptimes, but this wasn't too difficult since the 1800 RS isn't present. I'm wondering if there's a possibility that a worn out and fully ballasted 1600 NR-A would yield 200 points for this race, as I believe it may be the easiest way to go for Open Addict who is struggling with this one.

Full race report, pit info, laptime data, etc. is here 👍
Sounds like the suggestion I posted. :D
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2887079&postcount=118

<blooper>One advantage of using a brand-new car is that its power actually increases slightly during the race. So you're using on average slightly more power than the A-spec calculation was based on.</blooper>
 
One advantage of using a brand-new car is that its power actually increases slightly during the race. So you're using on average slightly more power than the A-spec calculation was based on.

Why would the power increase? Doesn't the power decrease on new cars?
 
Sorry. Maybe I was mixing up games. I thought "break-in" was modeled for new (non-prize, non-special, non-used) cars. :( But, if I read correctly, the power drop for a new car without an oil change is very slight. It goes for over 1000 miles before power drops off. (Of course, there's never (hardly ever?) any point in doing an oil change when going for A-spec points). Combined with learning, that could explain why it felt like power was increasing. In many other races, not going for max A-spec points, I would do an oil change, and then feel the quick deterioration.
 
Power break-in only applies to GT3 cars. They got rid of this cool feature in gT4 for some ungodly reason. :grumpy:
 
As I've done many of the medium-length endurances at this point, I'll share what I've found. It's not much new but hopefully it's helpful. I'll edit in the two hard ones (Roadster, SS150) if I ever win them.

Nurburgring 4 hour

ASL Garaiya, non-power and non-weight mods, N1/N2 changing to N3/N3 on first lap. I chose a lineup with no fast cars (Corvette, NSX, Clio, Speedster, etc.). Main competition was a Mitsubishi Evo VIII GSR; others (in finish order) were Camaro SS, BMW M3, Lancia Delta, and BMW M Coupe. I won by seven minutes, mostly because the Evo pitted every four laps and was slow on the fourth. 30 laps completed, pitting on 1 and every five after that (tires tinged orange). Fastest lap was 7'59.6xx.

Suzuka 1000k

Honda S2000 LM, R1, NA3, 100 ballast, vs. (finish order) Takata Dome NSX, Loctite Mugen NSX, Xanavi Hiroto GT-R, Au Cerumo Supra, and A4 touring car. Notice it includes no LM cars, no Motul Pitwork Z, and no slow touring cars. I had to pit every ten laps (AI every 14-15) because this car (or maybe it's just me) eats front tires. But I was quite a bit faster regardless and thus won by 2.8 laps. Total time 6:05 with a fastest lap of 2:02.978.

Fuji 1000k

AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR, R1, no ballast. Touched nothing except the tires and driving aids. Lineup (finish order) Nissan R89C, Sauber C9, Nissan R92CP, Audi R8, Nissan R390 GT1. Pitted every 16-17 laps, versus lead AI cars' 15. Won by 7.5 laps with a total time of 4:59 and a fastest lap of 1:15.170.

Motegi 8 hour

I decided that considering this was a race of tuned cars, I should use something from Tuner Village, and something that wouldn't put me to sleep for the eight hours. I settled on the Amuse S2000 Street Version. You know, the one from Mission 19 - "Avoid the Fishtailing AI". It's a bit of a challenge to drive, as it oversteers very easily, but that makes it fun. So I put N1/N2 tires on for the first lap, loaded up 200 ballast at -30, added a racing exhaust to make it sound better, and found the weakest lineup I could: (finish order) Mugen S2000, Tom's Chaser, Trial Celica, Spoon Civic, Spoon Integra. 5.7 lap MOV after swapping to N3s on the first lap. Pitted every 14 laps, to complete 211. Fastlap of 2'13.375.

Tsukuba 9 hour

I took the suggestion mentioned in post #2 and used the Nissan Silvia 240RS. I'm not as good as route_66, so I wasn't fast enough to keep up using stock power and S1 tires for 200 points (getting that many required having fast cars in the lineup). I instead found a slow lineup and added NA1 and a semi-racing exhaust (just for the sake of listening to for nine hours), all nonpoint mods, and did not change the oil or refresh the chassis. I started on N1 tires and swapped for N3s on the first lap, and then pitted every 22 laps thereafter. I completed 487 laps with a 7.8 lap MOV. Lineup (in finish order): Mazda RX-8 Type S (pits every 30 laps), Subaru Impreza '02, Toyota Supra RZ, Audi A3, Alfa Romeo 147 GTA. Fastest lap 1'04.493.


Wow, the two hard ones just make me furious with their designers. At Super Speedway the cars are on R1s :grumpy: so you can't gain any sort of advantage. And the Miata enduro? Who the 🤬 decided to leave out the two newest cars? It would actually be a fun race, not a near-impossible one, if only both 1800RS's were among the AI competitors. But as it is, they make you run a car on the lowest-grade tires with a lot of ballast and very little power to get 200. I tried several timed today and only managed to get myself thoroughly frustrated, as I discovered that I could make N3s last a maximum of 3/4 the distance the 1800RS goes before a pit, while other cars carried on far enough that they'd only make three stops! So I tried doing the tire change to N3s on the first lap and then got destroyed when my tires went neon red. I tried changing to N2/N3 on the first lap and couldn't make up ground fast enough to get to the lead in time. Then I stayed out on the N1s and found the whole field was still marginally faster after switching to the N2s, even though they're pitting one less time than me, but kept going and then spun out trying to ram the 1800RS. Race over. So I feel like OA in that I'll never finish this 🤬 of a race for 200 points.
 
Was checking through the thread and I went and pulled a stock psr gt. 200 pts stock. I am sure a better driver than me can make this win. Great thread, just starting my quest.
 
Nürburgring 4h Endurance

My car Suzuki GSX-R/4, 175 hp 200 ballast and N2 tires.
Against a weak lineup
2nd Mazda RX8 + 4 minutes
BMW M3 + approx 6 minutes
Ford Typhon + 1 lap
Mercedes 55 AMG + 1 lap
Fiat Coupe + 2 laps
Best lap 8.04.45
Completed 29 laps, slowed down on lap 27 28 and 29 so as not to have to do 30 laps.
Finish time was just over 4 hours.
Pit schedule was every 6 laps.
 
Super Speedway 150. I (black Mazda) was in front of Sauber on the 99. lap by 3,5 secs, then accidentally my car lost its power for 4-5 seconds, so I lost my 200 by 1,3 seconds. Can anybody tell me why did it happen?

vanamees (108 874 A-spec points)
 
Are you serious? That's some astonishingly bad luck. I've only ever had that happen because my DS2 wasn't quite perfectly plugged in. What happens then is that the red light on the controller goes out and no inputs work anymore, just as if you had unplugged it. The car coasts in a straight line and usually hits a wall. I have to adjust the connection to get it back.

Great job on the 108874 points, by the way. Are you going for max? If so, better luck than me (I'm at 110820)!
 
Roadster 4 Hour Endurance --> 200 pts
Lineup:
  1. '97 SR-Limited (J)
  2. '93 V-Special Type II (J)
  3. '98 1.8 RS (J)
  4. '95 S-Special Type I (J)
  5. '00 1800 RS (J)
  6. '91 J-Limited (J)

Used, no oil change, 108Hp + 167 ballast + all other upgrades...
Tranny Auto 1 - Final 5400

Race Time 4:00'05.341 --> MoV 0,265
Pit 38, 75, 113, 150...

I can confirm that this works, it is just flipping HARD. This was my last for Max so I am glad you gave the info Fizio 👍
 
Sorry if this is a bit wordy... I'm just so excited to have won it for 200 points!

Roadster 4 Hour Endurance

Lineup (I was not picky about it, as you can tell by the starting position of the 1800 RS; this one happened to come up relatively soon):
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (J) '00. Pitted on laps 38, 73, 108, 144, and 181.
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (J) '98
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (J) '04 (me): all nonpoint upgrades, sludge for oil (9000+ miles), rigidity refresh. 113 HP. Start on N1/N3. Pit stops on laps 1 (swap to N3/N3), 38, 74, 108, 144, and 174.

Suspension: springs 9.0 - 2.8, ride height 89 - 89 (yes, it's slammed, but it worked well enough), damper bound 3 - 6, rebound 5 - 9, camber 2.0 - 0.0, toe 0 - 0, stabilizers 4 - 7.
Transmission (don't ask me how I got this, but for reference, it hits the limiter in 5th at 102 mph): 3.368 - 2.340 - 1.724 - 1.339 - 0.879. Final 4.800. Auto 1.
LSD 10 - 40 - 20, brake balance 20 - 24, NOS 100, 167 ballast at +35, no aids.

I never thought I'd say this about a race I won, but it's all about the setup. The setup I used for my numerous failed attempts was copied straight from SuperCobraJet. Sorry, SCJ, but it just didn't work for me. The tires went bright red well before the 1800 RS pitted, and it just didn't feel right. Too little roll and too much understeer. So, using his tune as a base, I threw some adjustments at it, based solely on qualitative information from tuning guides about what increases oversteer, and did all of three test laps. While this is obviously a very unrefined setup and probably sucks, it worked much better for me. It's "floaty" and maneuverable, allowing you to glide slightly sideways into the corners and drive through smoothly. I suggest moving the ballast weight forward if the car is too sideways or wearing out the rears too fast (my first renewed attempt yesterday ended with a spinout on red tires with too much rear toe and the ballast at +50).

I used NOS from the start to not fall behind, and drove through the grass inside the second hairpin to punt the 1800 RS (1 bar of NOS used). It only fell to 5th, but that was still good enough. I pitted from 4th on lap 1 to change to N3s, coming out 30 seconds behind, and then used the NOS in 1 to 2 second bursts every lap coming out of the last hairpin (which I cut almost every lap of the race, a big help for the long straight to keep the 1800 RS from passing you). I got by the 1800 RS, which was trapped behind the 1.8 RS in 3rd, on lap 9 coming out of that same hairpin. From there I decided not to use any NOS now that I was past the main competition, although I had only used 3 bars of it, and passed the VR-Limited for the lead on lap 15.

From there it was relatively simple. The 1800 RS caught me around lap 20 or 25, and I had to block it frequently, mostly at the end of the long straight and going into and coming out of turn 1, until we pitted together at lap 38. Thankfully, it wasn't difficult to keep it behind me. On the six or so occasions during the race that it got past, I used a short spurt of NOS to get up to speed and then just rammed him in the rear in the next hairpin, usually the first one, but sometimes the second. About four of those times, it got parked backwards and took a few seconds to get its bearings and get pointed in the right direction, but it managed to get going discouragingly quickly the other couple of times. The race progressed pretty normally through our next couple of pit stops, until lap 144.

The key part to my win was the 1800 RS getting trapped behind slower cars. It really struggled to pass the 1.8 RS a couple of times (like the first few laps, which allowed me to get in front of it for good), and for 15-20 laps just after our lap 144 pit stop, it could not manage to pass the slowest car in the field, the V-Special. That made it fall back to a whole 27 seconds behind :eek:, and allowed me to have him a minimum of 13 seconds behind the whole rest of the race! 👍 Actually, the way I decided to run it, I pitted for the final time seven laps earlier than the 1800 RS, from 22 seconds ahead, when my tires were just turning orange, allowing me to get the most out of both sets. That put me 5 seconds behind coming out of the pits, a gap that grew to 12 seconds when it pitted at lap 181. When it came out, I had a 13 second lead, which grew slowly to 17 seconds, where it remained for several laps until about 5 to go, when its tires warmed up. I still finished with a comfortable margin and 6 bars of NOS left, even doing the last lap with all 4 tires completely on the pavement, just to not feel like a complete cheater. :D

Finishing order:
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (J) '04. 196 laps in 4:00'16.794.
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (J) '00. +13.341 seconds. Biggest 200 point MOV in this race ever?
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (J) '95. +2 laps?
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (J) '98. + 2 laps?
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (J) '93. +2 laps.
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (J) '93. +3 laps. Stress-free aspect of last hour and 45 minutes all due to this one! 👍

Practice is key in this race. I had already gotten plenty of practice ramming in my failed attempts, and plenty more in cutting the last hairpin, although I could have made it even easier for myself if I had practiced lapping with my setup. Nevertheless, I was able to go faster than the 1800 RS on cold tires, although it outpaced me by 1-1.5 seconds per lap on warm ones when unobstructed. My fastest lap was 1'11.620, with NOS, in the first few laps. Normal laps early in the race, with a full fuel tank, were 1'12.3-1'12.8. Very good laps then were 1'12.1. With low fuel, later in the race, normal laps were 1'11.9-1'12.4. I managed a best NOS-free lap of 1'11.702.

With a good setup, I no longer believe this is the hardest 200 point race in the game.



EDIT: Below is my recommended NTSC plan of attack for the race, and probably will not work for PAL drivers. I had failed many times trying to keep up with Group Cs with minimum downforce and pit only once, as has been recommended, but that just does not work in NTSC, where the cars pit only twice.

Super Speedway 150 Miles

Lineup:
Pescarolo Courage C60/Peugeot Race Car '03
Nissan R89C Race Car '89. Pits 41, 82.
Nissan R92CP Race Car '92. Pits 38, 77.
Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03
MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car '89. Pits 39, 77.
Mazda 787B Race Car '91 (me). Pit stops 36, 68. Black, used, no oil change, rigidity refresh, R1 tires, 40 ballast at 0. Setup: see post #135, with the following changes: Downforce 63/63. Gearing: Auto 15, final 3.800. Aids 0/0/3: TCS is a huge help not to spin out if you hit the wall wrong.

I rode the wall at the tighter end of the track every lap, and occasionally the wider end. From the start, I was quicker than the others on cold tires and drafted to the front. I stayed in front for a while, but was only about equal in pace to the three fast cars (88C-V, R92CP, R89C), and unfortunately was getting around the wider end differently: with the lowered rear downforce, I braked earlier and powered through the whole corner, while the others had the idea of not braking until the middle of the corner (and sometimes another tap near the exit), meaning they kept whacking me in the rear on entry. So around lap 13, I started letting them by in the wide end and then passing back on the next straight or the tighter end. In fact, on this very same lap, I pushed up a bit alongside the R92CP going into the second corner set, and he overcorrected for no apparent reason and spun headlong into the wall. He caught back up, though.

On lap 20, the R89C slid up the track and hit me with his right rear, causing him to nose himself into the wall in front of me and give the 88C-V the lead. For the next few laps, I tried to get back in the lead by attempting to dive-bomb the corner and crash him, but just ended up skewing myself sideways and losing both 2nd place to the R92CP and time to them both. :dunce: I pitted at lap 36 with orange tires from 3 seconds behind, got new R1s, topped up to 60 fuel units or so, and came out a lap down. The R92CP pitted on his lap 38, and the 88C-V, who actually tried to pit with the R92CP but had the Bentley on his inside as he tried to come down and subsequently rode along the inside wall for a bit, glanced off the pit wall with red rears on his way in but made it in, stopped on his lap 39. The R92CP came out 6 seconds behind me and the 88C-V several more down after his incident after pitting from 1st.

The lead dwindled slowly to 3 seconds at lap 68, when I pitted to bisect the remaining laps. I topped up to 52 fuel units and got more R1s. I came out 27 seconds down, and got lapped at lap 75. Both of the leaders (R92CP, 88C-V) pitted at lap 77, cleanly this time, and I was left in 2nd, 7 seconds behind the R89C. He hit the pit wall when he came in at lap 82, leaving me 11 seconds ahead of the 88C-V. My margin over him stayed between 12 and 13 seconds for the whole rest of the race, except on the last lap, where, if you've read my other endurance race reports, you will have guessed that I did not wall-ride. The R92CP crashed like a doofus into the turn 1 wall trying to pass the 88C-V on lap 93 and ended up far behind him.

Finishing order:
Mazda 787B Race Car '91. 50'45.699.
MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car '89. +10.7xx seconds.
Nissan R92CP Race Car '92. +about 22 seconds.
Nissan R89C Race Car '89. +3 laps?
Pescarolo Courage C60/Peugeot Race Car '03. +3 laps.
Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03. +4 laps?

Throughout the race, especially when the fuel got lower, a normal lap was between 29.4 and 29.5. In the draft, I managed a 29.073 for my best lap of the race. If you get good at wall-riding, this race should be fairly easy. It should be noted that since the AI cars run almost identical lap times to you, the difference in the race is really made by two things: AI mistakes (crashing, hitting pit wall, etc.) and the AI filling to a full fuel tank every pit stop. If I filled the tank every time, I may have lost. Those 20-30 units you leave empty really are tremendously valuable.
 
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^ Nice write up, well done, with us doing this race it should give others hope to complete it as-well. 👍

Huge margin on the Roadster (I am green with envy)
 
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Please, don't laugh, and don't call me crazy... but the Cadillac Cien can easily win the Sarthe II endurance. :scared::eek: Really, I'm not joking here. In fact, it's almost perfect. All you have to do is get a Cien, buy NA3 and R1 tires, reduce the weight fully, and slap on a wing. Then set the (stock) fully customizable transmission to 20, and set the wing to about 50/60. Do a couple practice laps to familiarize yourself with the car on the track, find a good lineup (I managed an incredible one of C9, 88C-V, R89C, R92CP, and XJR-9 within the first few), and go race!

No, I have not actually done the race yet (I still doubt I'll be able to, because of my sister wanting the PS2, my mom being too likely to turn it off at some point, and my dad would ban me from the PS2 if he found out). But I went all the way to the first pit stop, and already had a 20+ second lead. The pit cycle is actually essentially perfect - the tires and fuel both go away at the end of lap 8 (which is still a very fast lap), which happens to be the same time that all the fast NTSC opponents pit, too.

Really, if you want to do this race, try the Cien. It's much more fun than doing it in a dumb old 787B or something. :sly: If you can't find the exceptional lineup I did, just settle for a slightly slower one and add a bit of ballast and/or reduce the downforce. You should still be able to win comfortably.
 
Nice potential find. Wrt doing the 24h races, why dont you talk to them and see if you can do a deal or find reasonable & convincing arguments to race. Just dont whine as that will not be in your favour.
If you can do the 1000 mile races why not the 24hr ones?

AMG.
 
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